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Electricity Shortage Causes Blackouts Across Europe
FOXNews.com ^ | November 5, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/05/2006 11:08:21 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BERLIN — A shortage of electricity in Europe's power grid caused blackouts across the continent, halting trains, trapping people in lifts and plunging millions of homes into darkness.

Swathes of Germany and France were badly hit by the cuts late Saturday. Austria, Belgium, Italy and Spain were also affected.

A spokesman for German power company RWE AG said a shortfall in supplies to the European power grid caused many substations to shutdown automatically.

It was not immediately clear what caused the shortage.

Areas of western Germany were without power for a half-hour, delaying scores of trains for up to two hours, Deutsche Bahn spokesman Achim Stauss said.

Officials said thousands of worried citizens overwhelmed emergency services with telephone calls.

In France, about 5 million people were left without electricity, including many in the capital, Paris. In all, about 15 French regions were affected, firefighters said.

France Info radio quoted French power utility Electricite de France as saying that about 5 million people were still without power early Sunday, and that it was not sure when it would be able to bring consumers back online.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austria; belgium; blackouts; electricity; energy; europe; france; germany; italy; spain

1 posted on 11/05/2006 11:08:22 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: All

Ah, that superior Europe that the Democrats so love has struck again!

Incidentally, I wonder if we'll ever see a headline saying "Radical Muslim Shortage Causes Peace Across Europe."


2 posted on 11/05/2006 11:09:59 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

North Korea hasn't had an outage in years.


3 posted on 11/05/2006 11:11:15 AM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Do we know the exact location of Gray Davis? And- How long until Bush is blamed?


4 posted on 11/05/2006 11:11:42 AM PST by Fire137 (If this is not a war I don't know what one is)
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To: Fire137
The hamster broke his leg!


5 posted on 11/05/2006 11:24:14 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The private German power utility E-ON says reports of cuts began after it shut down a high voltage line in the northwest of the country. A company spokesman said the line over the river Ems was shut down so a Norwegian cruise ship was able to pass through safely.

This is almost as good as that squirrel in Ohio, whose electrocution in the summer of 2005 led to a blackout of the Northeast.


6 posted on 11/05/2006 11:25:37 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It was not immediately clear what caused the shortage.

You must enact the Kyoto Protocol!

7 posted on 11/05/2006 11:37:55 AM PST by John123 (As a tribute to Red, I will light a cigar for every game the Celtics win this season...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It was not immediately clear what caused the shortage.

This is such an easy one. How about the power and influence of the Greens in Europe?
8 posted on 11/05/2006 11:40:05 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: rottndog

There was a time when the All-Electric House was being advertised, heavily advertised. Even in Fairbanks. Then one day it was 60 below and the power went out. For three days. Some ultra-modern houses were vacated. Haven't heard much advertising lately for the All-Electric House around here.


9 posted on 11/05/2006 11:42:54 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: rottndog
This is such an easy one. How about the power and influence of the Greens in Europe?

Or price controls, perhaps?

10 posted on 11/05/2006 11:45:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: RightWhale

All electric house in a cold environment without a reliable backup power supply--sometimes I just have to laugh at people who consider themselves "engineers".


11 posted on 11/05/2006 11:46:08 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: RightWhale
Haven't heard much advertising lately for the All-Electric House around here.

Word.

12 posted on 11/05/2006 11:46:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Greens--Socialist--all cut of the same fabric...all lead to the same results.


13 posted on 11/05/2006 11:46:59 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A harbinger of the Dark Age to come.

Europeans have their eyes squeezed shut and their fingers in their ears. They are determined to repeat the past.

14 posted on 11/05/2006 11:48:52 AM PST by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: rottndog

Believe it or not there are still some all-electric residences being built even now. The City of Fairbanks went so far as to pass an ordinance restricting use of wood stoves. It wasn't 15 below that day, but it is today. I like all-electric, but I have a fall-back wood stove just in case, and candles ready to go. Sometimes when it is 20 below or colder, and it still gets down to 50-60 below Global Warming or not, I run the wood stove anyway. But I wonder who will come shivering to my door when the power goes out for a few days again. Even a few hours would do it for some, and that includes those on oil heat. Oil doesn't work without electricity, which means that all my neighbors will come shivering to my door because there is not a wood stove or fireplace in any of their cabins.


15 posted on 11/05/2006 11:53:59 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Am also grown skeptical of any kind of public service advertising, which is just a step above eyesight remedies.


16 posted on 11/05/2006 11:55:59 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: RightWhale

And just two steps above gold futures.


17 posted on 11/05/2006 11:56:37 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: RightWhale

They don't let you burn wood in Fairbanks!?


18 posted on 11/05/2006 11:56:43 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RightWhale
Believe it or not there are still some all-electric residences being built even now. The City of Fairbanks went so far as to pass an ordinance restricting use of wood stoves. It wasn't 15 below that day, but it is today. I like all-electric, but I have a fall-back wood stove just in case, and candles ready to go. Sometimes when it is 20 below or colder, and it still gets down to 50-60 below Global Warming or not, I run the wood stove anyway. But I wonder who will come shivering to my door when the power goes out for a few days again. Even a few hours would do it for some, and that includes those on oil heat. Oil doesn't work without electricity, which means that all my neighbors will come shivering to my door because there is not a wood stove or fireplace in any of their cabins.

That's one thing I like about the old, oil drip stoves. They don't need electricity. There's a new one out that doesn't need electricity either, but I can't remember the name of it. I can't believe there are Alaskans who don't have a back-up heating system for when the power goes out.

19 posted on 11/05/2006 11:58:08 AM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: RightWhale
Oil doesn't work without electricity, which means that all my neighbors will come shivering to my door because there is not a wood stove or fireplace in any of their cabins.

Let 'em in. All that body warmth will accentuate the heat coming from your stove.

20 posted on 11/05/2006 11:58:20 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ha ha! The idiots aren't putting enough smoke in their wires.

What loosers!


21 posted on 11/05/2006 11:59:16 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Mamzelle

No. Well, only when there isn't an inversion, but the inversion is when it is cold. So Catch-22 on us.


22 posted on 11/05/2006 11:59:26 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Lazamataz

NB4RYMB


23 posted on 11/05/2006 12:00:09 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Europe, do not worry. As soon as Iran gets her Nuclear Power Plants running, I'm sure they will be glad to send all that electricity over to Europe. (sarc)
24 posted on 11/05/2006 12:00:55 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: mrsmith
The idiots aren't putting enough smoke in their wires.

Old electronic theory: there is smoke and noise in all electrical circuits. If you cause the smoke and noise to escape, the circuit no longer functions.

25 posted on 11/05/2006 12:02:24 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Chena

The oil-drip requires constant attention or it will get away from you. Very dangerous even when everybody is paying attention. Wood is best, although wood and coal combination is also excellent if more of a problem. Nobody on my street has a wood stove except me, but they are all rental units. Wherever Alaska is, it isn't on this street anymore.


26 posted on 11/05/2006 12:02:47 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Panic over loss of power for 30 minutes? Around here, people that need electricity (hospital, ill homebound etc have back up generators). Wonder what they would do if they were without power for 2 weeks?


27 posted on 11/05/2006 12:04:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They are all either Green Party or Democrats. There is no warmth to them at all. Just cold sneers.


28 posted on 11/05/2006 12:04:52 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: gorush

I think you have to have an "inage" before you can have an "outage."


29 posted on 11/05/2006 12:06:41 PM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

The old theories are the best.

Hmmm, hasn't it occured to anyone that elections are powered by smoke and noise in the presswires?


30 posted on 11/05/2006 12:16:35 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Socialism Kills
31 posted on 11/05/2006 12:18:02 PM PST by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wasn't so long ago that the whole northeastern part of the USA was down. Grid-based power systems can do that. Don't be so sure it won't happen again here.


32 posted on 11/05/2006 12:25:03 PM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: MineralMan

It did and people handled it fine.


33 posted on 11/05/2006 12:27:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: RightWhale
The oil-drip requires constant attention or it will get away from you. Very dangerous even when everybody is paying attention. Wood is best, although wood and coal combination is also excellent if more of a problem. Nobody on my street has a wood stove except me, but they are all rental units. Wherever Alaska is, it isn't on this street anymore.

Knock on wood, we've been lucky. When we lived north of the circle, we used an oil-drip stove, and firewood when we could get it. Where we live now, we use an oil-drip in our workshop. I usually turn it off during the day and build a fire in the big barrel stove out there, and re-light it at night. The new drip stoves are supposed to be much safer. I sure wish I could remember the name...maybe it was Deville? For our house we heat with wood, but we also have an oil furnace and a Toyo. We try not to use the furnace much.

I suppose the rental units prefer not to have woodstoves due to the fire danger. Alaska is still here where we live, but I know what you mean. Oh, we had -10 last night but it's 5 above now and a few flurries.

34 posted on 11/05/2006 1:22:16 PM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: MineralMan
We've lost almost 3000 in Iraq in a Country half way across the world during a war.
France lost 15,000 due to a heat wave in the city of Paris.
That EU thing seems to be working pretty good.
And these are the Allies that Kerry et al wants to "engage".
35 posted on 11/05/2006 1:22:47 PM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

RYMB? Really? I thought this was Bush's fault!


36 posted on 11/05/2006 1:24:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: fish hawk

Did you hear about the new Iranian Nuclear Power Plant? It can reach Tel Aviv in 35 minutes!


37 posted on 11/05/2006 1:25:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Perhaps we should invade Europe...the Iraqis are better off with electrcity with us in Iraq, why not help the PU EU?


38 posted on 11/05/2006 2:02:41 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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To: gorush
North Korea hasn't had an outage in years.

True. You can't run out of something you never had to begin with.


39 posted on 11/05/2006 2:33:30 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...Europe's power grid caused blackouts across the continent, halting trains,...

Mussolini is not amused!

FMCDH(BITS)

40 posted on 11/05/2006 2:42:56 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

France: the new Armpit of the Western World.


41 posted on 11/05/2006 2:44:29 PM PST by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: MineralMan; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But, but, doesn't Western Europe have the best and most advanced electricity infrastructure in the world? [/sacrasm]

(Speaking as an insider in this industry)


42 posted on 11/05/2006 10:03:23 PM PST by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: Cobra64

If I remember correctly, the power is turned off at night in North Korea. It does appear, however, from the photo that a little bit of power is left on. Would that be Pyongyang by any chance?


43 posted on 11/06/2006 4:07:40 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Lazamataz

RYMB ping


44 posted on 11/06/2006 4:10:51 AM PST by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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To: CindyDawg

Having lived in Germany for 13 years now...I can attest to the fact that they all have expectations of 24-hours per day of power. Any outage lasting longer than 20 minutes becomes a major stress issue for a German. They all want explanations out of the power folks for a 1-hour outage or more...so it becomes a public relations nightmare when huge windstorms come through and knock alot of power out.


45 posted on 11/06/2006 8:18:22 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

The impression I had in Europe was that their electric rates were shockingly higher than ours. True?


46 posted on 11/06/2006 8:52:41 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy

I have a regular 3-bedroom house...natural gas heat...no AC...and I pay around $80 per month. If I had to use AC...it would be out of sight. So I would compare it easily to Californa or AZ to prices.


47 posted on 11/07/2006 10:15:39 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I noticed that every business we walked into seemed positively obsessed about electrical conservation, even to the point of sacraficing what looked to me (an american) like saftey, physical comfort, etc. We were traveling in France and Italy.

Was this all good citizenship? If so, I've got to hand it to them.


48 posted on 11/11/2006 8:32:21 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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