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OHIO: Nearly 13,000 Dead Voters Still On Registry: Prosecutor ready to prosecute
News 5 Ohio ^ | Nov 3, 2006 | Duane Pohlman

Posted on 11/05/2006 2:13:48 PM PST by rface

CLEVELAND -- After watching the 5 On Your Side investigation on dead voters, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

In his report, NewsChannel5 chief investigator Duane Pohlman uncovered dozens of votes being cast from the grave, and Mason said the trouble is just beginning for whomever is responsible for casting votes in the name of the dead.

"This really is an attack on the entire system, and it's of paramount importance that we find out how this is happening and we stop it so it can't happen again, one, and, two, find out who's doing it, so we can prosecute them if possible," said Mason.

So-called "ghost voting" is a felony, and Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Director Michael Vu has already launched an investigation into the problem.

"We will investigate that, send it to the county prosecutor's office and determine what had occurred," Vu said.

Mason said prosecution is possible only if the investigation can prove intent.

NewsChannel5 compared the county's voter registration rolls with death records from the Social Security Administration, finding 12,688 people who have died but are still registered to vote.

Many of the dead voters passed away years ago, and a good number of them more than a decade ago.

Vu said slow reporting combined with federal rules require him to keep dead people in the registry.

"It's something that needs to be corrected," he said.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, stunned by what was uncovered, said he will help do the correcting.

Kucinich said the investigation has convinced him to introduce a bill to clean up all voter registration rolls and close the gap on corruption.

"One thing is for sure: There is an opening here for the commission of fraud that needs to be close," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: repository; votefraud; voterfraud; votingfraud
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1 posted on 11/05/2006 2:13:48 PM PST by rface
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To: rface

Better late than never?


2 posted on 11/05/2006 2:14:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rface
""It's something that needs to be corrected," he said. "

first thing Thursday they'll begin the two month investigation, I suspect.
3 posted on 11/05/2006 2:15:37 PM PST by stompk
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To: rface
Vu said slow reporting combined with federal rules require him to keep dead people in the registry.

It's the Feds fault?
4 posted on 11/05/2006 2:15:54 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Cicero

Naw, let's put it off til after the 2008. The libs will need those dead voters; no one alive and in their right mind will vote for them.


5 posted on 11/05/2006 2:16:05 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: rface

I hear that in some districts the Police departments are sending cops out to the cemetaries to block the dead from voting......


6 posted on 11/05/2006 2:16:46 PM PST by gb63
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To: bboop

Dennis Kucinich will see to it that all dead Republicans are removed from the voter lists...we can count on that.


7 posted on 11/05/2006 2:18:43 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: rface
...who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

And just exactly why are they casting a vote in place of any one, dead or alive?

Other than themselves...

8 posted on 11/05/2006 2:18:50 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: rface

Without lying and cheating, Democrats would never win.


9 posted on 11/05/2006 2:19:21 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Vote REPUBLICAN on November 7th!)
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To: rface

FEMA, WHERE ARE YOU!!??? THE DISASTER IS HAPPENING AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE QUICK RESPONSE TEAMS ON SITE 10 YEARS BEFORE THE VOTERS DIED!

WHAT? YOU WERE BUSY IN LOUISIANA? THAT'S NO EXCUSE! WHAT, YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT VOTE FRAUD! THAT'S PLAIN CORRUPTION I TELL YOU! YOU'RE JUST MAKING EXCUSES FOR YOUR SLOW RESPONSE!


10 posted on 11/05/2006 2:19:44 PM PST by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: Calpernia; DrDeb; ohioWfan
CLEVELAND -- After watching the 5 On Your Side investigation on dead voters, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

Send them to prison for how many years....... ten-twenty? Better yet plea bargain and send the handlers to prison. I want some one to used as an example! WE AREN'T GONNA TAKE IT! NO MORE! Enough us enough..................

11 posted on 11/05/2006 2:20:01 PM PST by hoosiermama (Eric Dickerson= Indiana's ( Rove)mber Surprise!)
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To: rface

What is being done with the votes already cast by dead people???


12 posted on 11/05/2006 2:20:17 PM PST by MamaLucci (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: rface
Democrat Voter Registration Drive:

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13 posted on 11/05/2006 2:20:18 PM PST by engrpat
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To: rface

Ther fact that there are stillon the registry is not shocking to me and that in itself is not really signs of misconduct.

I am not sure how the voters are purged of dead voters in Ohio but I suspect its the same as getting rid of all in active voters.

I have never figured out why people don't ask their legislators to do a simple thing.

That is pass a law that when a coroner issues a death Certicate there needs to be two copies, One sent the the local register of voters and the other to the Secretary of State so the name can be taken off the list.

PErhaps this is being done in certain places but I have got to think that would cure all this


14 posted on 11/05/2006 2:20:35 PM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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To: Cicero
Once the vote is cast, it's over.
15 posted on 11/05/2006 2:20:43 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: rface

In Chicago it's OK. I had an uncle living in FL. He was buried in IL so he could vote forever.


16 posted on 11/05/2006 2:21:19 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: rface

"Mason said prosecution is possible only if the investigation can prove intent."

What kind of double talk is that? How could you NOT intend to do voter fraud by voting as someone you are not?


17 posted on 11/05/2006 2:21:30 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Cicero

Not only ae they voting, they are answering calls from pollsters.


18 posted on 11/05/2006 2:21:47 PM PST by billhilly
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To: rface

Didn't Vu get in trouble for this last year? Of course, he's a Dem, no mention of that in the article.


19 posted on 11/05/2006 2:21:47 PM PST by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: rface
Good evening.

Dennis Kucinich was stunned.

Michael Frazier
20 posted on 11/05/2006 2:22:54 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: rface
Kucinich said the investigation has convinced him to introduce a bill to clean up all voter registration rolls and close the gap on corruption.

Dennis is going to lose a lot of his voters. Not too many Repubs in Cleveland.

21 posted on 11/05/2006 2:23:10 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: rface; Lazamataz; dead
OHIO: Nearly 13,000 Dead Voters Still On Registry: Prosecutor ready to prosecute

Please ping me when this prosecutor successfully prosecutes all of these dead people

22 posted on 11/05/2006 2:23:40 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: boomop1

Dem voter fraud prosecuted?
Is this a stand up comedy act?


23 posted on 11/05/2006 2:23:43 PM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: rface

The importance of this election is far reaching.

24 posted on 11/05/2006 2:24:58 PM PST by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: rface

"Rep. Dennis Kucinich, stunned by what was uncovered, said he will help do the correcting."

right after the lib/dems are declared winners!!!!

where are all of the lib/dem lawyers contesting this problem????


25 posted on 11/05/2006 2:24:58 PM PST by hnj_00
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To: rface

26 posted on 11/05/2006 2:25:13 PM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: rface
Many of the dead voters passed away years ago, and a good number of them more than a decade ago.

Do voting records indicate ANY of these individuals voted in past elections. I R-E-A-L-L-Y wonder which party they VOTED FOR? Odds?????

27 posted on 11/05/2006 2:25:51 PM PST by RetiredArmy (ANYONE who votes for the Abortion Democrats are enemies of the Republic, and ME!)
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28 posted on 11/05/2006 2:27:11 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Crying DUmmie.)
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To: rface
Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person

Please explain how one could UNKNOWINGLY cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

30 posted on 11/05/2006 2:28:45 PM PST by T Minus Four (Laughing out loud, out loud, out loud, out loud, out loud!!)
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"he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person. "
So the only ones left will be those doing so unknowingly [unknown knowns?} - those who are dead but do not know it yet. Makes sense.
31 posted on 11/05/2006 2:30:23 PM PST by GSlob
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To: catholicfreeper
That is pass a law that when a coroner issues a death Certicate there needs to be two copies, One sent the the local register of voters and the other to the Secretary of State so the name can be taken off the list.

I have no problem with it, but my first name in combination with a very uncommon last name is, as far as I can determine, unique. Jim Smith (James Smith was, and may still be the most common name in the US) OTOH may feel differently.

32 posted on 11/05/2006 2:33:50 PM PST by magslinger (When Law enforcement enforce idiotic Laws of Bad Politicians there are no good guys.-Phantom Patriot)
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To: GSlob

" those who are dead but do not know it yet."

which is by definition "democrat" - so it's all good !


33 posted on 11/05/2006 2:34:24 PM PST by stompk
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To: Charles Henrickson

Clue me in.

What is she crying about?


34 posted on 11/05/2006 2:41:23 PM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: Cicero

35 posted on 11/05/2006 2:41:31 PM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad on The Red Cross.)
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To: GSlob
- those who are dead but do not know it yet.

Jawn Chari votes in Ohio?

36 posted on 11/05/2006 2:41:41 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: gb63
I hear that in some districts the Police departments are sending cops out to the cemetaries to block the dead from voting......

That's great!! LOL

37 posted on 11/05/2006 2:42:29 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: gb63

Disenfranchising dead voters "oh the humanity"


38 posted on 11/05/2006 2:45:40 PM PST by just me
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To: JRochelle
What is she crying about?

She was crying about "voter fraud" in Ohio in 2004 that denied John Kerry his birthright.

39 posted on 11/05/2006 2:46:23 PM PST by MichiganConservative (The US is so full of domestic enemies, maybe all we can do is slow the inevitable ascent of tyranny.)
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To: rface
Many states drop people after they miss two federal elections or have sample ballots (or two) sent out by the state returned as undeliverable.
So if you vote and die on the way home the next election would 4 years away and the second 4 more. If the mailing address didn't change because other family members still living in the house it could be eight years before they are remove from the voting rolls after they die.

And then their are scumbag cheats that need to spend every election day (because they no longer vote) cleaning roadside stops and run down gas station toilets..

40 posted on 11/05/2006 2:47:17 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Cicero

Better late than never?


Yeah, they've had 2 years (at least) to fix this problem.

Whay have they not done so?


41 posted on 11/05/2006 2:48:04 PM PST by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: RetiredArmy

I also would like to know how many elections they voted in after their passing, especially for the individuals who passed more than a decade ago.


42 posted on 11/05/2006 2:48:06 PM PST by YoungSoutherner (It's a great time to be a southerner)
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To: rface

Let me guess. All the "dead" voters caught have cast their votes for Dems?


43 posted on 11/05/2006 2:50:12 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: rface

Don't trust Bill Mason - I have a little story I could tell about Bill Mason, the City of Parma, a federal discrimination suit, and a promotion to Cuyahoga County's prosecutor's office. Suffice to say that Mason moved up while Parma's taxpayers got the short end of the stick.


44 posted on 11/05/2006 2:52:59 PM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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Oh, and BTW, Mason is a dem as are most of the officials in Cuyahoga county. If not for Channel 5's investigation, it would be business (voter fraud) as usual in that county.


45 posted on 11/05/2006 2:58:38 PM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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DEMOC  S

46 posted on 11/05/2006 2:59:25 PM PST by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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So Kucinich wants to purge the voter rolls but he doesn't want voters to have ID.

Yeah, ok.


47 posted on 11/05/2006 3:01:05 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Obama in 08)
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To: rface

Have they checked the absentee ballots? That's the preferred method of voting by the dead, and you have to admit, they are very absent.


48 posted on 11/05/2006 3:02:08 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: rface

Democrats get 98% of the Zombie vote.
49 posted on 11/05/2006 3:02:13 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: rface
If Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Director Michael Vu is really serious about correcting the problem of dead voters, he should hire Paul Bettencourt as a consultant.

Bettencourt is the Harris County, Texas Tax-Assessor Collector (Houston area). He has done everything he could to scrub our voter rolls clean and he's very good at his job. The Republican voters of Harris County, TX owe him a great debt of gratitude.

50 posted on 11/05/2006 3:09:36 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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