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Marijuana Delivery Services Flourish In NYC
WFRV.COM ^ | 06 NOVEMBER 2006 | AP

Posted on 11/06/2006 12:27:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(AP) NEW YORK -- In a city where you can get just about anything delivered to your door -- groceries, dry cleaning, Chinese food -- pot smokers are increasingly ordering takeout marijuana from drug rings that operate with remarkable corporate-style attention to customer satisfaction.

An untold number of otherwise law-abiding professionals in New York are having their pot delivered to their homes instead of visiting drug dens or hanging out on street corners.

Among the legions of home delivery customers is Chris, a 37-year-old salesman in Manhattan. He dials a pager number and gets a return call from a cheery dispatcher who takes his order for potent strains of marijuana.

Within a couple of hours, a well-groomed delivery man -- sometimes a moonlighting actor or chef -- arrives at the doorstep of his Manhattan apartment carrying weed neatly packaged in small plastic containers.

"These are very nice, discreet people," said Chris, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition only his first name be used. "There's an unspoken trust. It's better than going to some street corner and getting ripped off or killed."

The phenomenon isn't new. It has long been the case around the country that those with enough money and the right connections could get cocaine or other drugs discreetly delivered to their homes and places of business.

But experts say home delivery has been growing in popularity, thanks to a shrewder, corporate style of dealing designed to put customers at ease and avoid the messy turf wars associated with other drugs.

"It's certainly been the trend in the past 10 years in urban areas that are becoming gentrified," said Ric Curtis, an anthropology professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who specializes in the drug culture.

The corporate model -- and its profit potential -- were demonstrated late last year when the Drug Enforcement Administration announced that it had taken down a highly sophisticated organization dubbed the Cartoon Network. DEA agents arrested 12 people after using wiretaps and surveillance and making undercover buys.

Authorities estimated that since 1999, the ring made a fortune by delivering more than a ton of marijuana, some of it grown hydroponically -- without soil -- in the basement of a Cape Cod-style home on 10 acres in Vermont, where an informant reported the smell of the crop was overpowering.

The dealers, working out of a roving call center, processed 600 orders a day -- from doctors, lawyers, Wall Street traders -- even on Christmas, investigators said. Authorities refused to give names, but in one conversation overheard last October, a courier boasted about the ring's upscale clientele, according to court papers.

"We know comedians. We know celebrities," the courier said. "So you might meet a rapper, a singer. We go to a lot of people."

One former customer named Lucia, a 30-year-old employee at an entertainment cable network, recalled blatant deals done at the company's Manhattan headquarters. Executives and employees alike would pool their orders as if they were buying lunch together, then await the arrival of a courier, Lucia said.

The cost was $60 for one plastic case holding two grams of marijuana -- a steep markup, but worth it because of convenience and quality, she said.

"It was kind, kind bud," she said. "Yummy stuff."

The emphasis on customer service and satisfaction was evident at one stash house, where agents found more than 30 pounds of marijuana in plain view, already packaged for holiday delivery, court papers said. The packages featured the drug ring's cartoon character logo and the greeting, "Happy Holidays From Your Friends at Cartoon!"

The operation's alleged mastermind, John Nebel, "should have been the CEO of a Fortune 500 company," said his attorney, Steve Zissou.

Instead, Nebel, who is awaiting trial, could get a minimum of 10 years in federal prison if convicted. Prosecutors also are demanding the forfeiture of $22 million in cash, homes, cars, motorcycles and a boat owned by him and his cohorts.

At Lucia's workplace, employees were "bummed" by the news of Nebel's bust, Lucia said. But worries that the office might get raided evaporated, and other dealers stepped in, though "their product does not hold up to Cartoon," she said.

Investigators seized customers' names and addresses from the drug operation's computer logs. But those people face little risk of prosecution, authorities said.

Authorities conceded the home delivery trade will probably survive because of the high demand for marijuana and the low penalties for dealing it.

Under state law, most marijuana offenses "are not treated as very significant crimes," said Bridget G. Brennen, the city's special narcotic prosecutor. "That is why you see the marijuana delivery services proliferating. Their exposure is slight."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: addicted; aleroygonefederal; dopers; drugdealers; libertarian; marijuana; pot; weed; wodlist
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1 posted on 11/06/2006 12:27:42 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Mojave; Moonman62; robertpaulsen; DouglasKC

Fresh meat!


2 posted on 11/06/2006 12:29:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Come Wednesday, you'll be able to make a killing with one-hour home delivery of Cyanide capsules in Manhattan.


3 posted on 11/06/2006 12:30:16 PM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
the ring made a fortune by delivering more than a ton of marijuana, some of it grown hydroponically -- without soil

"Be sure to include a line about hydro to make it sound scarier or more potent." - check

4 posted on 11/06/2006 12:31:39 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

For those who are intent on self-destruction, there is always someone more than willing to help them on the way.


5 posted on 11/06/2006 12:33:10 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The operation's alleged mastermind, John Nebel, "should have been the CEO of a Fortune 500 company," said his attorney, Steve Zissou.

Something seems fishy. Time to light up a fatty.


6 posted on 11/06/2006 12:33:17 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Sir Gawain

The demonic hydroponic is coming to destroy people don't you know.


7 posted on 11/06/2006 12:34:23 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Bacon Man; Hap

Sounds like AP finally found out about Sampson Simpson!


8 posted on 11/06/2006 12:35:07 PM PST by Xenalyte (Viva Espaņa!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In San Francisco there are stores selling marijuana for $300 per ounce, or about $10 per gram.

There are also delivery services - by bicycle - doing the same thing.

This guy's paying $30 per gram? That's $900 per ounce.


9 posted on 11/06/2006 12:35:56 PM PST by Santiago de la Vega (El hijo del Zorro)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
John Nebel

10 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:09 PM PST by evets (Beer and wine.)
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To: Xenalyte
I get that!!!!!!! Oh wait I own that movie too!

Now if we can work in a "Not Another Teen Movie" reference.....
11 posted on 11/06/2006 12:37:08 PM PST by cmsgop ( Try Miracle Grow, with New and Improved Uterus Growing Power, endorsed by Cindy Sheehan)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

That is pound price!!


12 posted on 11/06/2006 12:39:29 PM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Authorities conceded the home delivery trade will probably survive because of the high demand for marijuana and the low penalties for dealing it."

There's the money quote. But not quite true.

Bureau of Justice Statistics June 2004 Bulletin: "State Prison Expenditures, 2001" - NCJ 202949 reveals that taxpayers are spending more than $1 billion annually to imprison pot offenders.

The new report is noteworthy because it undermines the common claim from law enforcement officers and bureaucrats, specifically White House drug czar John Walters, that few, if any, Americans are incarcerated for marijuana-related offenses. In reality, nearly 1 out of 8 U.S. drug prisoners are locked up for pot.

http://www.examiner.com/a-349381%7EPaul_Armentano__A_billion_dollars_a_year

13 posted on 11/06/2006 12:43:57 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

--main reason for the lower than usual murder rate that Mayoress Bloomberg is so proud of --the controlled substance market must be firmly in one set of criminal hands--no gang wars--


14 posted on 11/06/2006 12:44:36 PM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: cmsgop

"Half Baked" is one of the best stupid-funny movies I know. Turn your mind off and enjoy the dumbness!

"Eight-fourteen . . ."


15 posted on 11/06/2006 12:44:36 PM PST by Xenalyte (Viva Espaņa!)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

The bright Northern lights of Humboldt County radiate across the Nation these days.


16 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:39 PM PST by battlegearboat
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To: linear
For those who are intent on self-destruction

Funny, I don't know anyone that has died from smoking marijuana. You?

17 posted on 11/06/2006 12:53:38 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yes, two of my high school classmates died as a result of going for a drive while stoned.


18 posted on 11/06/2006 1:10:01 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Got any more funny comments?


19 posted on 11/06/2006 1:10:28 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: cmsgop; Xenalyte; Hap
Now if we can work in a "Not Another Teen Movie" reference....

How about "That's just whack!"

20 posted on 11/06/2006 1:12:41 PM PST by Bacon Man
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

There's a big election tommorrow and we can see what's on your mind, as usual.


21 posted on 11/06/2006 1:13:25 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"When You Absolutely, Positively Have To Get Baked Overnight"?
"What Can Green Do For You?"
"THC Or Else"?


22 posted on 11/06/2006 1:14:20 PM PST by RichInOC ("I wonder what Great Dane tastes like....")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don't think in this context, that the poster was talking bout death.


23 posted on 11/06/2006 1:14:32 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Bacon Man

LMAO!!!!


24 posted on 11/06/2006 1:16:50 PM PST by cmsgop ( Try Miracle Grow, with New and Improved Uterus Growing Power, endorsed by Cindy Sheehan)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The cost was $60 for one plastic case holding two grams of marijuana

Yah!!! We paid $35 an oz in college.

25 posted on 11/06/2006 1:18:06 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

No kidding.

For $900 you could get a pound of good stuff in New Mexico.


26 posted on 11/06/2006 1:22:33 PM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Moonman62
There's a big election tommorrow and we can see what's on your mind, as usual.

Yeah, because I really want to wring my hands all day about an election.

I did my part - I voted. Now I'm posting a pot thread and relaxing....ahhhh

27 posted on 11/06/2006 1:24:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: linear
Yes, two of my high school classmates died as a result of going for a drive while stoned. Got any more funny comments?

Let me guess - You're immune from criticism now, right, because of the death of your friends.

I'll just keep quiet. I don't want this post to be replaced by the infamous "Comment Removed By Moderator" post.

28 posted on 11/06/2006 1:27:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I never implied that I was immune from criticism. You asked if I knew anyone that died from pot, and yes, I do.


29 posted on 11/06/2006 1:30:04 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear

"Yes, two of my high school classmates died as a result of going for a drive while stoned."

I had two friends die who drove cold sober. Far more sober people die in car accidents than stoned people. What's your point? Sobreity kills?


30 posted on 11/06/2006 1:34:57 PM PST by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Kevin Bacon - Quicksilver


31 posted on 11/06/2006 1:35:25 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improved this message.)
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To: L98Fiero

I knew someone would say something stupid like that.

Far more sober people die in car accidents, but that is because far more people drive sober than not. Most people die within 5 miles of their house - does that mean you are ok if you are ten miles away?

Your odds of getting into a wreck are far greater if you are impaired - as I suspect you already know.


32 posted on 11/06/2006 1:37:52 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear

Pot didn't kill your friends....poor driving skills did.


33 posted on 11/06/2006 1:38:05 PM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: Keeper of the Turf

And their driving skills are the same, whether they are sober or not?


34 posted on 11/06/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear
Yes, two of my high school classmates died as a result of going for a drive while stoned.

A fair number of people die in car crashes while talking on cell phones, eating, putting a CD in their player or turning around to yell at the kids in the back seat. Guess we should outlaw cell phones, burgers, CDs and kids in cars as well.

35 posted on 11/06/2006 1:39:34 PM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This article is such a joke. There were delivery guys in NYC when I lived there in the early 90s. Moreover, if you knew the trick then you could get herb at almost every bodega.


36 posted on 11/06/2006 1:41:29 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: dirtboy

The fact that one thing is dangerous does not make another thing less so.


37 posted on 11/06/2006 1:41:55 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear

All I'm saying is they didn't die from smoking pot.


38 posted on 11/06/2006 1:42:13 PM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: AppyPappy

$500 a pound in high school. Big margin if you sold joints.


39 posted on 11/06/2006 1:42:14 PM PST by Toby06 (jon carry is a piece of s#it)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

The girl was ostracized for delivering drugs.


40 posted on 11/06/2006 1:43:20 PM PST by Toby06 (jon carry is a piece of s#it)
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To: Keeper of the Turf

All I'm saying is that the fact that they were smoking pot made their deaths a lot more likely.

If you disagree, then I'm sure you'd have no problem as a passenger on an airplane flown by two pilots who were stoned.


41 posted on 11/06/2006 1:45:04 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear
Yes, two of my high school classmates died as a result of going for a drive while stoned.

I hate to be callous, but pot didn't kill them, friend. A stupid decision to drive while stoned did.

42 posted on 11/06/2006 1:47:11 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: PaxMacian

What's the trick?


43 posted on 11/06/2006 1:48:00 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Toby06; Bacon Man

Yeah, but the premise of the movie was a delivery service in NYC, and there was a poster on this thread named "Bacon Man", so how many degrees of separation is that?


44 posted on 11/06/2006 1:52:01 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improved this message.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

You aren't being callous, but you are wrong, I believe.


45 posted on 11/06/2006 1:53:18 PM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: linear

"I knew someone would say something stupid like that."

It was stupid. That was the point. It was, however, no more stupid than your assertion that pot killed your friends. You know it did not. I suspect nobody held a gun to anyone's heads and made them smoke or drive.


"Your odds of getting into a wreck are far greater if you are impaired"

Indeed. Far more than pot can impair one's driving. I personally observe that one would have to be pretty drunk to drive as badly as a woman on a cell-phone. When you see a swerving driver in front of you what is the first thought in YOUR mind? Pot smoker? I doubt it.


46 posted on 11/06/2006 1:57:14 PM PST by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

LOL, only 2.


47 posted on 11/06/2006 2:00:49 PM PST by Toby06 (jon carry is a piece of s#it)
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To: linear

I agre with HG, and not you. Oh, and I don't smoke dope. I don't think it should be legal, either. The weed didn't kill your buddies.


48 posted on 11/06/2006 2:01:59 PM PST by Toby06 (jon carry is a piece of s#it)
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To: linear
The fact that one thing is dangerous does not make another thing less so.

The fact that one activity with one thing is dangerous does not justify banning all uses of that thing.

49 posted on 11/06/2006 2:06:39 PM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: linear
For those who are intent on self-destruction, there is always someone more than willing to help them on the way.

Absolutely!

Typically, these someones are members of the "helping professions", and work for the government. They people the Social Services, Welfare, Education, and cynically named "Human Resources" departments everywhere.

Whom did you have in mind?

50 posted on 11/06/2006 2:14:51 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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