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This is the first story in the science section. Al Gore might have a stroke.
1 posted on 11/06/2006 10:11:30 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The big picture is hard to impress on a typical human, obssessed with events in ones self centered tiny lifespan. The panic of the 24 hour news cycle screaming with self importance and doom unless we just listen to them dominates.


2 posted on 11/06/2006 10:28:39 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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The carbon dioxide levels were roughly 16 times higher than today. Surprisingly, the scientists said, this appeared to coincide with wide glaciation, an analysis, wrote Crayton J. Yapp and Harald Poths in the journal Nature, that “suggests that the climate models require modification.”
3 posted on 11/06/2006 10:31:25 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

All reasonable measures say it has been much hotter multiple times in the past, although not in the last 10,000 years.


That doesn't mean its not gonna be a problem if it returns to higher temperatures.

But even though the temperature is certainly going up sharply for the last 30 years that does not mean humans are causing it.

Its three different issues - that's part Al wants to gloss over - that warming, the problems coming from the warming and causation are not the same.


4 posted on 11/06/2006 10:33:09 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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Skeptics say CO2 crusaders simply find the Phanerozoic data embarrassing and irreconcilable with public alarms. “People come to me and say, ‘Stop talking like this, you’re hurting the cause,’ ” said Dr. Giegengack of Penn.

A sure sign of an agenda corrupting science.

5 posted on 11/06/2006 10:36:49 PM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: neverdem
Here's the NYT chart...


6 posted on 11/06/2006 10:41:51 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: neverdem

Global warming appears to be a natural cycle, nothing more.


7 posted on 11/06/2006 10:48:36 PM PST by TBP (tlery, sinceideology.)
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To: neverdem
The reason climate science is such a fraud is they never mention what the Earth (and weather) was like before and after Noah's flood (only 4000 years ago). All this talk about millions of years is pure fantasy and conjecture. I mean how can you be a legitimate scientist if you don't acknowledge the Chief Architect of all creation, and His word the Bible.
8 posted on 11/06/2006 11:03:28 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Polls are for useful idiots. God and you IS the majority.)
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The Global Warming™ pornographers won't like this.


9 posted on 11/06/2006 11:16:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette ( Europe will either become Christian again or become Muslim. Not the "culture of nothing".)
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I'm surprised the Times printed this.

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13 posted on 11/07/2006 1:29:22 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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bookmarking....


20 posted on 11/07/2006 9:49:41 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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The reason this is going to be in the upcoming IPCC ...

... is so they can rewrite the climate history of the planet again.

Just like Michael Mann's Hockey Stick attempted to do away with the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age, the IPCC will attempt to rewrite the CO2 content of the historical atmosphere.

The 7,000 ppm will be replaced with a nice 450 ppm.

Just watch.


24 posted on 11/07/2006 1:32:28 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels for the last 500 million years

Evidence for decoupling of atmospheric CO2 and global climate during the Phanerozoic eon

Atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations are believed to drive climate changes from glacial to interglacial modes, although geological and astronomical mechanisms have been invoked as ultimate causes. Additionally, it is unclear whether the changes between cold and warm modes should be regarded as a global phenomenon, affecting tropical and high-latitude temperatures alike, or if they are better described as an expansion and contraction of the latitudinal climate zones, keeping equatorial temperatures approximately constant. Here we present a reconstruction of tropical sea surface temperatures throughout the Phanerozoic eon (the past 550 Myr) from our database of oxygen isotopes in calcite and aragonite shells. The data indicate large oscillations of tropical sea surface temperatures in phase with the cold–warm cycles, thus favouring the idea of climate variability as a global phenomenon. But our data conflict with a temperature reconstruction using an energy balance model that is forced by reconstructed atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations. The results can be reconciled if atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations were not the principal driver of climate variability on geological timescales for at least one-third of the Phanerozoic eon, or if the reconstructed carbon dioxide concentrations are not reliable.

26 posted on 11/08/2006 9:49:51 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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