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Live Thread - California General Election - 7 November 2006

Posted on 11/07/2006 7:06:48 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Welcome to the live thread for the California Primary Election. Polls are open until 8pm tonight. If you are a registered voter, it is your duty to vote and defend your rights and civil liberties, protect your pocketbook, and vote the bums out where applicable.

Feel free to discuss issues key to your local area that others may be interested in. Post your polling place experiences if you like. And post numbers as they come in later tonight.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; bonds; bowen; brown; bustamante; calelection; calelections; chiang; cigarettetax; corrigan; eminentdomain; feinstein; garamendi; gastax; jessicaslaw; kennard; lockyer; mcclintock; mcpherson; moonbeam; mountjoy; november7; oiltax; parentalnotification; parrish; philtheatyerwheaties; poizner; poochigian; prop1a; prop1a1b1c1d1e; prop1b; prop1c; prop1d; prop1e; prop83; prop84; prop85; prop86; prop87; prop88; prop89; prop90; schwarzenegger; sexoffenders; strickland; taxes
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To: goldstategop

Sounding like we could lose two more Senate seats. Webb has just taken the lead, Steele is behind. Ugh.


101 posted on 11/07/2006 9:00:25 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: newzjunkey
So much for all that research on judges.
Supreme Court Justice
10.8% ( 2717 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 8:45 pm

                        YES             NO
  Y  Joyce L. Kennard   844,669  76.3%  262,399  23.7% 
  Y  Carol A. Corrigan  831,234  76.6%  254,853  23.4% 

102 posted on 11/07/2006 9:01:12 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey
Angelides was whipped in the Bay Area. Usually a Democrat wins there big.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

103 posted on 11/07/2006 9:01:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: newzjunkey

McClintock is pulling away with each update. I hope that trend holds.


104 posted on 11/07/2006 9:01:45 PM PST by rivercat (The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare)
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To: calcowgirl
I hate to beat a dead horse but what's your gut take on Prop. 90?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

105 posted on 11/07/2006 9:03:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: dcam
People like him. He's out of sync with this state's politics but Californians agree with him we have too expensive government that doesn't return a lot of value for the money.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

106 posted on 11/07/2006 9:04:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
On judges, I noticed. Every one of them voted back in. Not a surprise. Next to no one knows a thing about them. Need to work on that for the future.

Jerry Brown (Dem)	874,827	50.9 %	
Chuck Poochigian (Rep)	763,746	44.4 %
Brown slipping.
107 posted on 11/07/2006 9:05:33 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
 
U.S. Congress District 47
0.0% ( 0 of 256 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 8:55 pm  
  
   Candidate               Votes    Percent 
*  Loretta Sanchez (Dem)   10,413   56.6 %  
   Tan Nguyen (Rep)         8,016   43.4 %  


108 posted on 11/07/2006 9:06:14 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey
Poochigian will lose but he's running a surprisingly strong race. Neverthless Brown probably can't take office because he's ineligible.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

109 posted on 11/07/2006 9:06:54 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Do you think Prop. 90 will pass? I hope so.

I think it's gonna be a nail biter. the "No" campaign poured tons of money and lies into the debate and there was literally no "Pro" campaign.

Fingers crossed!

110 posted on 11/07/2006 9:10:12 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

White House's first reaction to Dems House takeover is optimism for getting "comprehensive immigration reform."


111 posted on 11/07/2006 9:11:17 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: calcowgirl

1D is at 50.1% and trending down.


112 posted on 11/07/2006 9:13:00 PM PST by rivercat (The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare)
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To: newzjunkey
Jerry Brown (Dem)	874,827	50.9 %	
Chuck Poochigian (Rep)	763,746	44.4 %
Just goes to show you how bad the polls were. Field had it 56% to 30% just a few days ago.
113 posted on 11/07/2006 9:13:16 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Yeah. I'd hate to see a good measure go down to defeat for want of getting the story out. Still all the tax increase propositions are DOA.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

114 posted on 11/07/2006 9:14:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

The dillholes in my county(Sonoma) are passing the stupid Smart Rail , but Marin county is NOT passing theirs. They both have to pass in order for the train to be built.


115 posted on 11/07/2006 9:14:42 PM PST by rivercat (The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare)
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To: calcowgirl
Looks like we still have a split on the BOE. WE NEED TONY STRICKLAND TO WIN!
Board of Equalization All Districts
13.4% ( 960 of 7147 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:06 pm  
  
District 1  
  
Candidate Votes Percent 
  Betty T. Yee (Dem) 324,487 58.5 %  
  David J. Neighbors (Rep) 203,256 36.7 %  
  Kennita Watson (Lib) 14,612 2.6 %  
  David Campbell (NP) 12,405 2.2 %  
  
District 2  
  
Candidate Votes Percent 
  Tim Raboy (Dem) 188,790 33.8 %  
*  Bill Leonard (Rep) 339,682 60.8 %  
  Willard Del Michlin (Lib) 14,306 2.5 %  
  Richard R. Perry (NP) 16,705 2.9 %  
  
District 3  
  
Candidate Votes Percent 
  Mary Christian-Heising (Dem) 140,644 33.4 %  
  Michelle Steel (Rep) 265,524 63.0 %  
  Mary Lou Finley (NP) 15,501 3.6 %  
  
District 4  
  
Candidate Votes Percent 
  Judy May Chu (Dem) 157,435 55.8 %  
  Glen Forsch (Rep) 108,048 38.3 %  
  Monica W. Kadera (Lib) 11,955 4.2 %  
  Cindy Varela Henderson (NP) 4,955 1.7 %  

116 posted on 11/07/2006 9:14:44 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: calcowgirl

I admit, I didn't expect Poochigian to do so well against the legendary Brown.


117 posted on 11/07/2006 9:15:04 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: calcowgirl
John Chiang (Dem) 837,444 44.5 %  
Tony Strickland (Rep) 895,141 47.5 %  
13.9% ( 3500 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:06 pm
118 posted on 11/07/2006 9:16:00 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Sec. of State, 13.9% reporting

John Chiang (Dem)	837,444	44.5 %	
Tony Strickland (Rep)	895,141	47.5 %

119 posted on 11/07/2006 9:16:58 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: calcowgirl

Riverside County still hasn't post in results and they are conservative.


120 posted on 11/07/2006 9:17:15 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( _/|\_ I vote when the polls open)
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To: newzjunkey
The idiot voters don't know the legendary Brown is constitutionally ineligible for the job he's won.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

121 posted on 11/07/2006 9:18:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ThomasThomas; calcowgirl

Unfortunately notoriously slooooow leftist Alameda County has also yet to post results.


122 posted on 11/07/2006 9:19:21 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
At least we'll have a Speaker from the Land Of Fruits, Flakes & Nuts. California's day in Congress has arrived.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

123 posted on 11/07/2006 9:21:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: dcam
14.0% ( 3510 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:11 pm
 
Prop Leading Description      YES    Percent       NO    Percent
Prop 1A Transp Fund Protect   1,487,264 79.7%        381,133 20.3%
Prop 1B Hwy/Air/Port Bond   1,112,203 59.6%        755,294 40.4%
Prop 1C Housing Shelter Fund   1,003,396 53.9%        859,679 46.1%
Prop 1D School Facility Bond      934,953 50.1%        932,681 49.9%
Prop 1E Disaster/Flood Bond   1,156,650 62.3%        702,639 37.7%
Prop 83 Sex Offender Reform   1,366,401 72.5%        518,891 27.5%
Prop 84 Water/Flood/Park      913,271 49.4%        933,008 50.6%
Prop 85 Parental Notificat.      925,750 49.2%        955,054 50.8%
Prop 86 Cigarette Tax      856,853 44.6%     1,063,060 55.4%
Prop 87 Energy/Oil Tax      763,854 40.0%     1,142,773 60.0%
Prop 88 Educ. Fund/Prop. Tax      366,230 19.4%     1,513,155 80.6%
Prop 89 Campaign Public Fund      419,756 22.5%     1,439,914 77.5%
Prop 90 Eminent Domain      966,876 52.0%        894,684 48.0%

124 posted on 11/07/2006 9:21:40 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey

Come on, Tony....

I'd hate to see Chiang the tax monger win.


125 posted on 11/07/2006 9:22:20 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: dcam

I love that McClintock is winning. A bright spot on a rather bummer evening.


126 posted on 11/07/2006 9:23:27 PM PST by FightforFreedomCA (big bang theory: in the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.)
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To: calcowgirl

What is your link for those results? I tried the Secty of State site but didn't see anything like that.


127 posted on 11/07/2006 9:24:05 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: calcowgirl
POMBO'S AHEAD
   Jerry McNerney (Dem)   28,086 48.5 %  
*  Richard W. Pombo (Rep) 29,792 51.5 %  

22.1% ( 192 of 870 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:16 pm 

128 posted on 11/07/2006 9:27:00 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: newzjunkey
50th Congressional

BRIAN P. BILBRAY - REP  34482  57.30%
FRANCINE BUSBY   - DEM  23892  39.70%

129 posted on 11/07/2006 9:27:07 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: calcowgirl

http://www.vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/00.htm


130 posted on 11/07/2006 9:27:18 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
POMBO'S AHEAD

WooHOO!!!!

Or.... Yeeeeee haaaaaa!!! (cowgirl language!)

131 posted on 11/07/2006 9:28:25 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
U.S. House - District 11 - 192 of 870 Precincts Reporting
Tracy
Name Party Votes Pct
McNerney, Jerry Dem 34,871 50.63
Pombo, Richard (i) GOP 33,999 49.37

132 posted on 11/07/2006 9:30:06 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: ThomasThomas
Hopefully Riverside will help turn this one:
                                 YES              NO 
Prop 85 N  Parental Notificat.   925,750  49.2%   955,054  50.8% 

133 posted on 11/07/2006 9:30:34 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

VOTING IN MY DISTRICT IN CA WAS A BIG FAT JOKE WE ARE IN THE 21ST CENT. YOU NEED TO USE AN ATM TO GET MONEY, YOU DO ALOT OF THINGS ON LINE, PEOPLE CAN UPLOAD CRAP ON THERE IPOD(AND YES THESE ARE THE RICH AND THE POOR),THEY CAN ORDER DIRTY MOVIES ON LINE, IN MY AREA THEY ARE EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO STEAL YOUR ID AND USE IT, BUT NO IN MY DISTRICT THEY TOKE OUT THE COMPUTERS, THEY TOKE OUT THE PUNCH BALLOTS AND WE WENT BACK TO THE OLD FASHION DRAW A LINE FROM A-B FOR THIS ONE OR THAT ONE AND THEY PROBABLY COULDN'T EVEN DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE WHAT A BIG FAT JOKE IT MADE ME MORE MAD TO WALK OUT OF THERE CASTING MY VOTE AND KNOWING NOT ONE VOTE I MADE COUNTED BECAUSE I AM NOT REPRESENTED IN THE STATE OF CA I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER RIGHT GET READY FOR HILLARY IN 08 BECAUSE SHE AND OBMA ARE COMING. SO DEMS YOU WANTED THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE YOU TALKED DOWN THE REPUBLICANS SAYING THEY WERE UNETHICAL, CHEAP, DIRTY, ONLY FOR THE RICH WILL WE HAVE EXPECTIONS OF YOU TO PERFORM AND LETS SEE IF YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN BUSH AND HIS GROUP YOU HAVE TWO YEARS TO PROVE YOUR SELF BEFORE 2008 AND THIS JUST IN FROM SHEP SMITH BOB CROCKER TENN REPUBLICAN WON HOWEVER THE DEMS WILL GO TO COURT


134 posted on 11/07/2006 9:30:43 PM PST by proudCArepublican
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SAN JOSE MAYOR... REED STILL LEADS!!! :-)
Completed Precincts 113 of 521 
            Percent Votes 
CHUCK REED   65.51% 39,526 
CINDY CHAVEZ 34.49% 20,809 
DOWN WITH THE UNION/LA RAZA RAT
135 posted on 11/07/2006 9:30:49 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: SmithL
U.S. Congress District 4 44.4% ( 349 of 786 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:21 pm
   Charles Brown (Dem)      57,005  44.7%  
*  John T. Doolittle (Rep)  64,084  50.3%  
   Dan Warren (Lib)          6,400   5.0%  

136 posted on 11/07/2006 9:31:53 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Prop. 90 appears to have pulled ahead. If the margin doesn't narrow, its a welcome win in a dismal evening nationwide for conservatives.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

137 posted on 11/07/2006 9:32:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
It lost last year. Given the pro-choice tilt of this state, I'm surprised its doing so well.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

138 posted on 11/07/2006 9:34:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
San Diego Local Props:

PROP A-S.D. CO. REG. AIRPORT AUTH-ADVISORY/MIRAMAR AIRPT

Precincts: 2211
Counted: 567
Percentage: 25.6%

NO    118219    62.47%
YES    71023    37.53%

PROP B-CITY OF SAN DIEGO RETIREMENT SYSTEM BENEFITS

Precincts: 885
Counted: 170
Percentage: 19.2%

YES    56047    75.46%
NO    18227     24.54%

PROP C-CITY OF SAN DIEGO CONTRACT OUT SERVICES

Precincts: 885
Counted: 170
Percentage: 19.2%

YES    49613    66.80%
NO    24654     33.20%


139 posted on 11/07/2006 9:35:07 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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California
November 08, 2006 - 12:33AM ET (i) = incumbent = winner = runoff
Lieutenant Governor - 2786 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
McClintock, Tom GOP 1,101,583 50.34
Garamendi, John Dem 978,177 44.70
Warren, Donna Grn 53,550 2.45
Shaw, Lynnette Lib 31,892 1.46
King, Jim AIP 15,400 .70
Alexander, Stewart PFP 7,839 .36

Secretary of State - 2786 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
McPherson, Bruce (i) GOP 1,064,754 51.27
Bowen, Debra Dem 887,268 42.73
Lightfoot, Gail Lib 38,896 1.87
Hill, Forrest Grn 36,814 1.77
McMillon, Glenn AIP 30,655 1.48
Akin, Margie PFP 18,265 .88

Controller - 2786 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Strickland, Tony GOP 950,128 45.98
Chiang, John Dem 945,339 45.75
Wells, Laura Grn 59,174 2.86
Tello, Donna Lib 47,163 2.28
Barron, Elizabeth PFP 37,769 1.83
Campbell, Warren AIP 26,599 1.29

Treasurer - 2753 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Lockyer, Bill Dem 1,035,149 50.12
Parrish, Claude GOP 871,343 42.19
Smithson, Marian Lib 85,300 4.13
Thakker, Mehul Grn 40,499 1.96
Noonan, E. Justin AIP 20,825 1.01
Sanders, Gerald PFP 12,173 .59

Attorney General - 2725 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Brown, Jerry Dem 1,086,818 52.60
Poochigian, Chuck GOP 874,746 42.34
Weissman, Kenneth Lib 41,767 2.02
Wyman, Michael Grn 41,140 1.99
Harrison, Jack PFP 21,547 1.04

Insurance Commissioner - 2725 of 25231 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Poizner, Steve GOP 1,134,924 55.22
Bustamante, Cruz Dem 704,461 34.28
Ogden, Dale Lib 85,450 4.16
Cafiero, Larry Grn 58,127 2.83
Condit, Tom PFP 42,118 2.05
Burden, Jay AIP 30,064 1.46

140 posted on 11/07/2006 9:36:45 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The CA GOP dropped more than $1.5 million into this race: (I think there are about 100,000 voters in this district)
State Senate
District 34 Results 
  
  Candidate          Votes    Percent 
  Lou Correa (Dem)   11,635   41.5 %  
  Lynn Daucher (Rep) 16,385   58.5 %  

141 posted on 11/07/2006 9:36:56 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SmithL

Tony pulled ahead! (ever so slightly... )

:-)


142 posted on 11/07/2006 9:38:53 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

San Francisco

Proposition J, Call for Bush/Cheney Impeachment
  Choice Votes 

Yes     18,613  53.2% 
No     16,344  46.8% 
6% of precincts reporting Updated 11/07 9:18PM


San Francisco Values?

143 posted on 11/07/2006 9:39:24 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: calcowgirl

Thus far San Diego went 58% YES (25.6% reporting) on Prop 85. Mayor Villareconquista drowned the airwaves with a saccharine line of BS which completely ignored the safeguards for those in abusive situations. He'll never get a vote out of me. He's got to be celebrating Angelides loss tonight.


144 posted on 11/07/2006 9:40:11 PM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: calcowgirl

It sure looks like Moonbeam has a lock on the Attorney General post. Rose Bird's revenge!


145 posted on 11/07/2006 9:40:53 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: SmithL
But he won't get sworn in IF the courts uphold the law.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

146 posted on 11/07/2006 9:42:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

Oy, I'm going to be up all night awaiting to see of Strickland wins. He's such a super-nice guy.


147 posted on 11/07/2006 9:42:55 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: SmithL

Holy Cow! I would never imagine that 47% of SF folk would vote AGAINST impeachment!


148 posted on 11/07/2006 9:43:18 PM PST by rom
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To: SmithL; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Czar; tubebender; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie
Ya gotta celebrate when ya get the chance! YAY!!!
Lieutenant Governor

17.2% ( 4317 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 7, 2006 at 9:31 pm

  Candidate                     Votes  Percent 

  Tom McClintock (Rep)      1,046,340  52.2 %  
  John Garamendi (Dem)        864,897  43.1 %  
  James D. King (AI)           14,290   0.7 %  
  Donna J. Warren (Grn)        45,774   2.3 %  
  Lynnette Marie Shaw (Lib)    29,006   1.4 %  
  Stewart A. Alexander (NP)     6,895   0.3 % 

149 posted on 11/07/2006 9:43:47 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: goldstategop

yeah...that'll happen :)


150 posted on 11/07/2006 9:44:12 PM PST by FightforFreedomCA (big bang theory: in the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.)
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