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10,000 deceased people registered to vote in Missouri
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/story.php?ID=22625 ^

Posted on 11/07/2006 9:57:43 AM PST by truthfinder9

Columbia native William Phillippe was drawn to the West Coast through military service and a steady job after he graduated from Hickman High School in 1938. He moved back to his hometown in 1988 and in 1992 married Rea Phillippe.

The two played in a folk-country band called Yours Truly a few times a month. William Phillippe strummed the guitar; his wife played keyboard.

“He was the best guitar picker and singer that ever was, I think,” Rea Phillippe said.

In August 2003, a blood clot caused William Phillippe to suddenly die.

But somehow, according to a state database created this year, William Phillippe managed to cast a vote in the 2004 presidential election.

“He couldn’t have,” Rea Phillippe said. “He couldn’t have voted.”

True enough. But the same mistake could happen again.

William Phillippe is one of 10,520 deceased citizens who remain registered to vote in Missouri, and one of 235 who — according to a state database created earlier this year — managed to cast a vote after death.

Dead people remain on the voter rolls of every county in Missouri. St. Louis County leads the state with 2,270 registered voters who are dead. Adair County has only one.

Some of those registered

to vote died long ago. One, ­William Bennett of Kansas City, died in March 1972.

In Phillippe’s case, his after-death “vote” was a clerical error.

When voters go to the polls, they sign on a line next to their name and a unique barcode. Election judges then use a laser to scan the bar codes of people who came to the polls, and the Missouri Secretary of State’s Office updates its voter database to reflect the vote of each citizen.

In 2004, Rea Phillippe saw her late husband’s name in the registry. She thought she was helping elections officials when she scribbled a note next to his name: “Deceased Aug. 3, 2003.”

In Cape Girardeau, where she lived until 1990, that note would have prompted an effort to verify her husband was dead, said Cape Girardeau County Clerk Rodney Miller.

“Absolutely, we would have looked into it,” he said.

Instead, Rea Phillippe’s note led a temporary worker in Boone County to scan Phillippe’s bar code, inaccurately creating a record that he had cast a ballot.

Temporary workers can’t be expected to do their jobs without making a few mistakes, Boone County Clerk Wendy Noren said. After all, sometimes voters sign on the wrong line, or in between lines, or make other marks that can cause errors.

“It’s like asking why anyone makes a typo,” Noren said. “That’s like saying we’re going to put out a paper without any errors. You can’t do it.”

Scanning mistakes by temporary workers were to blame in all six cases in 2004 in which dead people were listed as having cast a vote in Boone County, according to an analysis conducted by the Missourian.

Noren said she is able to verify the accuracy of any election in Boone County because she keeps paper copies of voter sign-in sheets “forever.”

State law, however, only requires county election officials to keep hard copies of sign-in sheets for 24 months. That means it might be impossible to trace the errors that led to 127 votes recorded by dead people before 2004.

The number of deceased who remain registered to vote worries Cole County Clerk Marvin Register, who fears people who want to commit voter fraud could exploit the situation.

“We can’t just let this go,” he said. “It’s something that has to be taken care of and we’re going to move to take care of this.”

At his request, the Missourian provided Register with its list of dead Cole County residents who remain registered. His office will remove their names as their deaths are verified.

“We will have them off there as soon as possible,” Register said. “They will not vote in this election.”

Boone County has 232 dead people on its list, but Noren said she’s working on removing them.

After a federal election, Noren sends a postcard to each registered voter to make sure they haven’t moved, died or otherwise become ineligible to vote. If the postcard is returned or the voter continues to participate in elections, the voter retains eligibility.

But even when there is evidence a person is deceased, federal law requires the name to stay on voter rolls through the next two federal elections.

Noren said she does not remove names from the statewide list until she is absolutely certain the person is incapable of voting. Obituaries, notices from relatives and other common ways to learn of a person’s death don’t necessarily result in removal from Boone County’s registration list. Once she can verify a person’s death through official methods, Noren said, their names are removed immediately.

In the 2000 elections, Noren said, Missouri had a problem with too many people being removed from the list, which made them unable to vote. She said the possibility of a few people casting votes in place of the dead is better than taking away the rights of legitimate voters because of “aggressive” removal policies.

“Making assumptions you shouldn’t make can cause hundreds of people not to be able to vote,” she said. “That’s government sponsored voter fraud to me.”

There is a system in place to remove dead voters regularly, said Stacie Temple, spokeswoman for Secretary of State Robin Carnahan. Every week, the Department of Health and Senior Services supplies a list of new deaths to every county clerk in the state. The clerks then purge any names from the list.

Temple said 127,000 dead people have been removed from the voter rolls since the statewide database was created early this year. She said the ultimate authority lies with county clerks.

“We work with them. We train them. We help them,” she said. “But at the end of the day, the responsibility for maintaining the voter lists falls on the local election authorities.”

That explanation is little comfort to Cole County resident Betty Schrimpf, whose late husband Robert Schrimpf remains registered 11 years after his death.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: deadandfranchised; demovoteenhancement; missouri; voteenhancement; voterfraud

1 posted on 11/07/2006 9:57:43 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

And then Dems. wondered why we wanted to have voters show I.D.s. Now we know why Dems. opposed it.


2 posted on 11/07/2006 9:58:26 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: truthfinder9

ACORN needs to work harder to help the disenfranchised "respirationally challenged" voter.


3 posted on 11/07/2006 9:59:16 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: truthfinder9

"I refuse to be disenfranchised"

4 posted on 11/07/2006 10:01:33 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: truthfinder9
"..Dead people remain on the voter rolls of every county in Missouri. St. Louis County leads the state with 2,270 registered voters who are dead. Adair County has only one..."

No surprise there with the St. Louis scum vermin factor. These dead folks turn out for the Democrats.

5 posted on 11/07/2006 10:01:38 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

wasn't St. Louis just named as the most deadly or violent city in America?


6 posted on 11/07/2006 10:02:44 AM PST by sappy
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To: truthfinder9

Let's see how some of these people would feel if we made the occasional mistake with their bank account.


7 posted on 11/07/2006 10:04:40 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: sappy

You've heard of the "Vote or die" campaign? Well this is just the next natural step.


8 posted on 11/07/2006 10:05:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: truthfinder9
This could turn into "Night of the Living Dead Voter".


9 posted on 11/07/2006 10:05:10 AM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: sappy

Yes it was and it is also corrupt.


10 posted on 11/07/2006 10:05:32 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: truthfinder9

The way the barcodes are arranged in the sign-in book, appears to be easy to just go down the page with the scanner one after the other, regardless of the signature just penned


11 posted on 11/07/2006 10:05:46 AM PST by digger48 (there went breakfast)
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To: AmericaUnited

It's "disenfrenchfried."


12 posted on 11/07/2006 10:06:50 AM PST by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: truthfinder9

man, them stem cells must really work fast!


13 posted on 11/07/2006 10:11:03 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: truthfinder9

The dead of Missouri are rank amateurs. They cannot even begin to compare with the great Manuel Yip of Miami, who managed to vote four times after he bought the farm.


14 posted on 11/07/2006 10:13:29 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: truthfinder9

Well there is where all the extra ballots went....who would have guessed....


15 posted on 11/07/2006 10:16:58 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: sappy

Yes, St Louis was noted as most violent...but this is likely the fault of all these dead registered voters. They are trouble-makers...pure and simple.


16 posted on 11/07/2006 10:17:31 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: truthfinder9

And which party did they register as?


17 posted on 11/07/2006 10:27:53 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: AmericaUnited

disenfraudized.....


18 posted on 11/07/2006 10:28:34 AM PST by grounhog (Ss grounhog)
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To: truthfinder9

No wonder Missouri elected a dead man to the Senate!!! He was just appealing to that special-interest group!


19 posted on 11/07/2006 10:31:10 AM PST by MHT
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To: truthfinder9

I'm also concerned about the nursing home absentee votes. A total recipe for vote fraud.


20 posted on 11/07/2006 10:31:27 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: truthfinder9
Actually, Robin Carnahan's "partner" is the judge who kept the polls open for the city folks in 2000 which saw the election of Carnahan's dead father to the Senate. She should have recused herself, but that would have been too proper for the likes of them.
21 posted on 11/07/2006 10:37:44 AM PST by MHT
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To: truthfinder9
I just left my polling place in Kirkwood, MO. Big turnout.

I planted two signs which I printed out from my laser printer...they say...

HUNTERS

CLAIRE MCCASCILL WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY.

I got some wierd looks from the smoking ban, stem cell freaks, but I just lit up a smoke and walked on.

22 posted on 11/07/2006 10:39:02 AM PST by demsux
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To: truthfinder9

Neal Boortz announced on his radio show that when he went to vote, the computer wouldn't allow him to do so. He suspects that someone else voted in his place, since no ID is required.

He also mentioned that someone changed his registered address, forcing him to vote in a different location. Had he successfully voted at his old polling place, he would have committed a crime. He and his crew suspect that this is an attempt to get him off the air.

Mark


23 posted on 11/07/2006 10:42:24 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: truthfinder9
Thats only 10,000 dead voting..
How many NoN citizens WILL VOTE.. i.e. legal and illegal aliens.. (of all kinds not merely mexicans)..
24 posted on 11/07/2006 11:11:43 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: truthfinder9

25 posted on 11/07/2006 11:16:12 AM PST by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: truthfinder9; 1stMarylandRegiment; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; adrian; AFLoggie; ..
Missouri ping

Low volume (normally) ping list

FReepmail me to be on, or off, this list.

26 posted on 11/07/2006 11:16:56 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: PureSolace

That looks like a CD single cover...


27 posted on 11/07/2006 11:18:41 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: listenhillary
I'm also concerned about the nursing home absentee votes. A total recipe for vote fraud.

As well you should be, "Nursing Home" McCaskill's husband owns a lot of them in MO..

28 posted on 11/07/2006 11:22:34 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

That had occurred to me. It would be nice to check who voted and see which are totally incapacitated and incapable of voting.

I've heard stories of this happening before in Missouri.


29 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:38 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: listenhillary

I voted in North Saint Louis County today. No issues there, it took about 40 mins. Eavesdropping on some conversations, most people in my precinct were voting for Talent..


30 posted on 11/07/2006 11:43:59 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: sappy
Wasn't St. Louis just named as the most deadly or violent city in America?

And it recently received the reward of being named the rankest unflushed toilet, too.

31 posted on 11/07/2006 11:45:26 AM PST by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: truthfinder9
Scanned tdhis quickly; but is there some reason that the 'Party' is not named forthright? Like. . .'registered'. . .to WHICH Party. . .is the rest of the story too much to expect here? (Rhetorical questin only. . .)

So ok. .. we know it is Demrats; but why sugarcoat it?

Or. . .perhaps I just missed it; buried somewhere in this story. In which case; equally fitting place for the truth of the matter.

32 posted on 11/07/2006 11:49:07 AM PST by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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