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Resolved: We need conservative presence in traditional media. The internet isn't enough.
8 November 2006 | RPTMS

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:50:36 PM PST by RPTMS

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To: PhiKapMom
I think that is a great idea! Maybe we could get a reporter in every House District!

Probably pretty easy, actually, considering the readership on this board. And if only 40 of them write anything in a given month, you have a newspaper. If 40 of them write something once a week, you can have a weekly. If 40 of them write something once a day, you have a pretty heafty website with a good quality weekly to back it up.

All for, what, the RNC's coffee creamer budget each year?
51 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:57 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Now we need to stand up and fight and go recruit good candidates to run in 2008! We also need to make our remaining Senators grow a backbone like Senators Inhofe and Coburn have from Oklahoma. I am tired of the spineless leaders in the House and Senate.

What galls me is when Republicans get in trouble, they resign but Dems stay in office. I would like to take Foley, Ney, and others and wring their necks. In the future we need to vet our candidates!


52 posted on 11/07/2006 11:35:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Very well said!


53 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:14 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: kingu

As far as I am concerned my donations to RNC, NRSC, and NRCC could easily go for this. I think it is a great idea and we should explore the possibilities.

Tonight my daughter who writes for the University of Oklahoma Daily needed some interviews for the paper so I was going around the OK GOP Watch Party getting her interviews on the phone. She got one with our new Congressman elect Mary Fallin which was a real coup for her. I asked Mary if she would mind doing an interview with the OU Daily and she said she would love to do one. Made my daughter's day.


54 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: UpAllNight
Allen was hung with his own rope if that is the case. All that caca over Macaca was his foot in his mouth. It was the equivalent of the 'Dean scream' and was done while being taped by a known enemy!

Sorry, but that was a moment of bad media judgement which cost him votes and gave the opposition fodder for their attack machine.

Something which every candidate needs to be schooled in avoiding in the future, imo.

55 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:30 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SmoothTalker

Exactly! There was no message that they ran on that I heard. I thought Hastert did a horrible job as speaker and the Foley deal along with Ney hurt really bad. Abramhoff came up and bit us if you ask me. The Dims managed to make us the party of corruption and we let them IMHO.

I think we need to do a lessons learned to not make the same mistakes again, and we could put that out right here about what worked in some places and didn't in others. I think we need new heads of RNC, NRSC, NRCC and a lot of State Parties especially ours in OK!

Congressional Republicans in OK did great. Our statewide candidates were the worst ever and we only won one race. Our Governor candidate was the worst I have ever seen in any state. We did keep the OK and tie the OK Senate for the first time ever in the Senate, but statewide we got clobbered because the wrong person headed the ticket thanks to the OK Chairman taking out the best candidate in the primary with his kumbyya approach!


56 posted on 11/07/2006 11:45:02 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: kingu
On this board, you have probably 250 to 400 professional writers, three or four editors, at least a dozen illustrators, thousands of photographers. Start the paper, publish a few copies, and then set up reporters in every major city. Handle their credentials. And then you can actually go to press conferences and ask those questions the drive by media will never ask.

You can publish things, get it out there, even if it's just paper on a bar to catch slops. You'll have a resource that other papers and yes, websites, can mine. Most of it can be done on a volunteer basis, and publishing costs for a hundred thousand papers is about $10k a month. Less than what is raised to run FreeRepublic each month

I've been pondering something similar. My vision was to put a proper newspaper in a swing state with a dying newspaper, like kansas city and build from there, moving in where the old media is dying off. Whatever comes, I'm in.

57 posted on 11/07/2006 11:45:37 PM PST by bad company ([link:www.truthout.org/docs_2006/083006J.shtml | The Path to 9/11])
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To: AirBorn

I say it is time we went on the offensive here on FR and did something about just what you are saying.


58 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:55 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: kingu
"Actually, let me spell it out more clearly.

On this board, you have probably 250 to 400 professional writers, three or four editors, at least a dozen illustrators, thousands of photographers. Start the paper, publish a few copies, and then set up reporters in every major city. Handle their credentials. And then you can actually go to press conferences and ask those questions the drive by media will never ask.

You can publish things, get it out there, even if it's just paper on a bar to catch slops. You'll have a resource that other papers and yes, websites, can mine. Most of it can be done on a volunteer basis, and publishing costs for a hundred thousand papers is about $10k a month. Less than what is raised to run FreeRepublic each month."


With a few hundred small laser printers for small area distros and Kinko's for larger sets...

Have the individuals do the footwork to place them.

(Possibly get some national advertisers to help foot the bill (at least pay for the gas money.)


Echo the content online....
59 posted on 11/07/2006 11:48:32 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Smokin' Joe

You are so right! We need to vet our candidates and we need to teach them how to react to media nuisances!


60 posted on 11/07/2006 11:50:37 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: WVNan

We do have a conservative Journalism College here at The University of Oklahoma which just became its own college several years ago. My daughter will be graduating in the spring and they finally got rid of their one leftist communist professor who went to Florida State. She couldn't even tell you what political party the rest of her journalism professors belong to as they stress ethics and not spinning or doing biased reporting. Their election coverage has been right down the middle.

When Gaylord left all the money for a new Journalism college, it was with the knowledge that it would lean right because it would teach ethics and honest reporting. The Oklahoman which is family owns is continually picked by Columbia School of Journalism as one of the most biased papers in America. The Oklahoman leans right as well but they are honest in their reporting and if they do make a mistake they correct it.


61 posted on 11/07/2006 11:55:17 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: bad company
I've been pondering something similar. My vision was to put a proper newspaper in a swing state with a dying newspaper, like kansas city and build from there, moving in where the old media is dying off. Whatever comes, I'm in.

The problem of mass distribution will kill you, I think, in any major market. This is not to say you can't go print up 2 million copies of it and then distribute it to a swing state, probably for less than the cost of one of those glossy mailers that goes into the trash five seconds after the postman delivers it (unless the postman tosses it himself.)

But there are plenty of small newspapers across the US that are always searching for content. If they nab one of yours (with permission, of course) and print it in their 50k daily, you save the costs of doing it yourself. There's college newspapers that might actually consider reprinting a well written article from another small paper vs from a dying major city publication.

I donno. I've been down this road before. It is a tremendous amount of work without financing or writers (my wife and I wrote everything, pretty much, though our articles were picked up around the world.) It felt incredible when an article of ours actually changed things - one of our articles on a swarm of tornadoes brought a million dollar donation to a small town.

Six years after we ceased publication, we still get people asking if there's a new issue. We were on the floor at the DNC in 2000, as well as the RNC - But it was about then that we just stopped.

62 posted on 11/07/2006 11:56:10 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: RPTMS

Absolutely.


63 posted on 11/07/2006 11:57:23 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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To: kingu

But, it could be a losing proposition for a money-ied investor for several years, while he tries to built up his "network".

What I came away from this election was that we needed to counteract the mainsteam media/ entertainment complex.


64 posted on 11/07/2006 11:59:08 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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To: wodinoneeye

I think this is a great idea which will work. I went around tonight at our watch party getting interviews for my daughter for the OU Daily who was on the phone.

There have been so many times that having media credentials would have come in handy. I would have loved to be at the press conference of Hastert here last week and asked him why he and the House Members didn't have a coherent message that all our candidates would have used. I have heard him speak several times in OK and it is all the same speech. They never take questions from anyone but the media when they come through Oklahoma.


65 posted on 11/08/2006 12:01:16 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

We need a network.

Not a cable network. Not a new network. We need someone to step up and buy ABC, NBC, or CBS. And we need to get some newspapers too. More than the Washington Times.

This campaign was lost because we were besieged and we lacked the weapons to break out.


66 posted on 11/08/2006 12:01:22 AM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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To: wodinoneeye
With a few hundred small laser printers for small area distros and Kinko's for larger sets...

Well, even if you're talking large printings, a single 8x11, double sided, still runs you more than five cents a copy. Two pennies more, you get 16 double sided 8x11 pages. I'm pretty sure it's still about $200 per spot color, so for another penny, you could have red white and blue on the masthead.
67 posted on 11/08/2006 12:03:20 AM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: All
Ditto that. It's pretty clear that Fox News has been lost.

Please folks, lets boycott FoxNews. The leftists that they catered to durring this election won't watch FNC. We made them #1. If we don't watch them, they go the way of CNN, MSNBC and the rest. I have found that local news is not near as liberal as the cable channels. If we have to watch news, watch them. At least they still report the news.

68 posted on 11/08/2006 12:04:47 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: furquhart

Agreed.
I wouldn't mind a hollywood studio either.


69 posted on 11/08/2006 12:04:57 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Mamzelle

I hate the way they treated Kathrine Harris. With backing she would have had a real shot.


70 posted on 11/08/2006 12:07:37 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: kingu

Wonder how much we all donate to RNC, NRSC, and NRCC here on FR? Might want to channel that toward something useful because it is obvious the leadership of those three organizations were not up to the task at hand. I never did like Dole at NRSC.


71 posted on 11/08/2006 12:08:21 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: AirBorn
OH MY GOD !! That was FUNNY as HELL!! No wonder Rove IGNORES you!!... You have a GOOD point but you come off like a NUT!!
72 posted on 11/08/2006 12:08:35 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: AirBorn

Too much caffeine tonight, buddy?


73 posted on 11/08/2006 12:08:42 AM PST by Elyse
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To: beckysueb

I am already boycotting after this election and to think I pestered my local cable company to put them on cable. Murdoch is not to be trusted as he is in bed with the Clintons.


74 posted on 11/08/2006 12:09:36 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: bad company

The kansas city star may be a communist rag but they also do a lot of local news, weather and sports. Small independent newpapers are given out for free and have thrived for years. Not enough revenue can be generated to fund a start up newspaper to compete head on with the conglomerates like McClatchey who just bought and owns the star. FYI the star has gotten even more leftist silnce they were acquired last year.


75 posted on 11/08/2006 12:13:48 AM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: RPTMS

aaaah, good luck ...


76 posted on 11/08/2006 12:15:05 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: PhiKapMom

Me, too. I am done with them.


77 posted on 11/08/2006 12:19:21 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: RPTMS

It amazes me that in an atmosphere of such liberal bias in the media, where the media have acted as proxies for the Democrats, and have served as the unofficial opposition to the Whitehouse, it amazes me that we still have a 50% conservative nation.

But you are spot on. We need to create Alternative Media and learn from the motivated leftists on public access tv.

We need to move into televisual media because the written word on the internet is not enough. People won't read this stuff, they are lazy.

I suggest instead of pulling a Ted Turner and putting together a syndicate for a Conservative CNN, that we all look at internet tv and .mobi broadcasting. Through internet technology, the barriers to entry are lowered to create online tv stations.

We need to get into New Media.


78 posted on 11/08/2006 12:24:14 AM PST by anglosphere (A True Blue Conservative: Red is not a Republican color.)
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To: anglosphere

I think you and others have some great ideas and we need to start exploring them. We need a news site where people can actually read what other parts of the Country are doing and bring out the truth about an office holder. I don't care if it is a Democrat or Republican if they are crooked, throw them out of office. I am tired of people taking bribes from either party. I am just flat out tired of unethical candidates and ones that lie with the MSM covering for them.

Yahoo News makes me want to puke in addition to everything else from the media. AP is a bad joke and slants article after article. I heard on the way home tonight from the OK GOP watch party that the military in Iraq is saying the media is standing in the way of winning the war because everytime they turn around there is a microphone in their face. I think embedded reporters was a horrible idea.


79 posted on 11/08/2006 12:34:47 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: RPTMS; All

Stop whining all of you. You people are beginning to sound like Democrat whiners; you are making me sick. Ok, so we lost one round. So what ? The Democrats practically have(had) 'defeat' tattooed on their foreheads for decades.


80 posted on 11/08/2006 12:39:51 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: kingu; LS; rdb3; Fedora; wodinoneeye; cubreporter; doug from upland
It is a tremendous amount of work without financing or writers

As for writers You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting several competent writers. Fedora's work alone is enough to establish respectability in any publication.

Start the paper, publish a few copies, and then set up reporters in every major city. Handle their credentials. And then you can actually go to press conferences and ask those questions the drive by media will never ask.

Going with the premise above the financial load would be spread out across the country. Distribution could possibly be handled by the same people or others that want to participate.

81 posted on 11/08/2006 12:40:41 AM PST by bad company ([link:www.truthout.org/docs_2006/083006J.shtml | The Path to 9/11])
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To: RPTMS

82 posted on 11/08/2006 12:43:35 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: PhiKapMom

The left has been training up people under the "citizen journalism" movement. I plan to start to attend some of these lefty meetings and learn all I can.

http://www.prwatch.org/node/3782


83 posted on 11/08/2006 1:28:11 AM PST by anglosphere (A True Blue Conservative: Red is not a Republican color.)
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To: RPTMS
I absolutely agree, absolutely!
84 posted on 11/08/2006 1:29:00 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: kingu
.....and then set up reporters in every major city.

What we will need are good old fashioned investigative reporters. There has got to be tons of ripe, festering garbage under all those nasty liberal stones (evil trees give evil fruit). Our reporters had better watch their backs because who knows what the liberals might do to someone finding them out.

85 posted on 11/08/2006 1:40:19 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: RPTMS
How about we just have a media that delivers the facts and really does let us decide.......without the likes of Eleanor Clift and Ellen Ratner giving us their spin. Without Susan Estrich, and assorted other left wing hacks spewing their opinions.

Be nice to have the news straight......what an unthinkable concept!

86 posted on 11/08/2006 1:46:29 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: albie

We used to have the Washington Times but they have gone over to appeasement mode with Blankley at the head.


87 posted on 11/08/2006 1:47:27 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: bad company

If we all took what we donate to Republican causes, we might be surprised at how much is given to RNC, NRCC, NRSC, and State/Local parties.

Maybe we should form a PAC?


88 posted on 11/08/2006 1:47:52 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: anglosphere

I would bet we are better writers then the liberal citizen journalism movement.

I think it is an outstanding idea and you count me in for whatever you need.


89 posted on 11/08/2006 1:49:10 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: UpAllNight
The Washington comPost sunk Allen and got the pervert elected.

As in NJ where a cabal of homosexuals ran the state guvernment for years, the US senate will now be home to a cabal of perverts.

90 posted on 11/08/2006 1:49:23 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: staytrue

The appeasers won for now.


91 posted on 11/08/2006 1:50:55 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: slaymakerpowertape

We subscribed to the NY Sun at first. A few good reporters and invetigative reports and the rest of the paper had AP bylines. Blech.


92 posted on 11/08/2006 1:52:49 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: zbigreddogz

If it was disgust at Foley why did VA elect the pervert Webb?


93 posted on 11/08/2006 1:53:39 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: OldFriend

I am stuck out here in the People's Republic of Washington State where we have rain that never ends for days and days...so being in the Upper Left :( of the country, I didn't pay much attention to Jim Webb.

When you say he is a pervert, what do you mean? Does he have skeletons in the closet?


94 posted on 11/08/2006 5:40:50 AM PST by anglosphere (A True Blue Conservative: Red is not a Republican color.)
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To: oceanview
what we need, is our own George Soros. A conservative "money man" who will invest in information outlets.

Absolutely right. I have always thought that one way we can make headway is to get some wealthy conservative types (I keep hearing about how there are supposedly all these "rich Republicans" out there) to take over some of these media corporations. I mean, they are businesses, right? Surely there are some smart, well-heeled conservative business moguls who could "invest" in some of these network corporations, do some housecleaning, and at least make them a little fairer and more balanced.

95 posted on 11/08/2006 5:45:20 AM PST by chimera
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To: RPTMS

Someone needs to buy CBS.


96 posted on 11/08/2006 5:46:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Election 2006: For Republicans, the results were comprehensive.)
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To: anglosphere

If you can figure out how to research on FR you will exactly what it is that Webb wrote in a book. Sickening perversion.


97 posted on 11/08/2006 6:06:03 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: chimera

I don't know why we don't see such a foce emerge. forget the "takeover", with cable TV today, the internet, and other media forms - there are plenty of other ways to get a message out, without taking over a network.


98 posted on 11/08/2006 7:17:19 AM PST by oceanview
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To: RPTMS

Bump.


99 posted on 11/08/2006 11:50:04 AM PST by bad company ([link:www.truthout.org/docs_2006/083006J.shtml | The Path to 9/11])
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