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A few thoughts in the morning after
11/08/06 | Anitius Severinus Boethius

Posted on 11/08/2006 6:15:22 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius

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21 posted on 11/08/2006 6:27:21 AM PST by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
We are against cloning and there is only one George W. Bush. We need to identify and promote more faces of the party. Younger faces. President Bush is 60, Rudy Guiliani is 62, John McCain is 70. Where are the up and coming Republicans? Find them, promote them, and use them.

Ummm the problem with that is their are no real younger faces to promote for 2008. Most of them are congress critters who will never win a presidency. These are what we have and we will have to choose one and go with it. We have to listen to the people and the people are choosing McCain, Romeny and Giuliani and some others on the list. If we go against what the people WANT again we will lose.

22 posted on 11/08/2006 6:27:59 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Excellent post. I have been a cheerleader for this election, was disappointed in the result, but not shocked. We SHOULD have done better. There are a lot of things that hurt us, but in my opinion, this is the bottom line:

Stop running “every man for himself” campaigns. Run as a party. Run as a team. Have team goals and team aspirations.

Not doing so simply confuses the non-activist electorate who are looking for strong leadership. And I would like to add one more thing to that: GOVERN as a team as well.

23 posted on 11/08/2006 6:28:12 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

It's not enough to try to win with a political party.

The trouble is with the education system being extreme left. It needs to be fought there, in each and every school board.

Where do all the extreme left journalists come from? Whether television or print, they all come from our education system.

Even my grandkids, who come from a military family, come home spouting leftist propaganda.


24 posted on 11/08/2006 6:28:14 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: bushfamfan

I agree ~ ignore the media go around the media & Bush needs to stop suffering in silence while his party is destroyed by lies & propaganda in the press.
The part that terrifies me (yes terrifies) is the fact that the MSM now feel more powerful than ever.
They have learned that smear, lies, & propaganda Does work.
So its going to get worse.


25 posted on 11/08/2006 6:29:07 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: bushfamfan
I wouldn't put it past the Democratic party to have committed voter fraud.

I'm sure you're right, but not enough to make a difference. To me, the larger issue is lack of direction. (See my earlier post)

26 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by econjack
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I don't agree with your squishy middle analogy. The swing voter has been the one both parties need to appeal to to win elections lately.

I could hear the power of the Republican side hissing out of the ballon when the Federal government failed to step in and rescue Terry Schiavo from being starved to death. More seeped out when Talent changed his position on stem cells. It was lots of misteps rather than straightforward doing what we believe in, pi88ing away our power like we had extra to spend.

As a Kansas observer, those are the things I noticed.


27 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: areafiftyone

Here's the thing, though. You don't win the squishy middle by MOVING to the squishy middle. You win the squishy middle by getting out there and convincing them that your ideas are better than the other guy's.

You CAN capture enough of the middle to win and still be conservative! That's what the GOP has to figure out. Because if they keep sliding further and further left, the squishy middle is going to keep voting for Democrats, because the Rats can sell liberalism better than the Republicans can.

}:-)4


28 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:33 AM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Thanks for that reminder. You're absolutley right.


29 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:54 AM PST by RedRover (Proud pinger of sinister political forces.)
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To: areafiftyone

Like that is a sure thing to winning! I'm telling you Duncan Hunter is the real deal. A decorated Vietnam vet with a son who served in Iraq. He is able to get his message across well and it's going to be important for the GOP nominee to be able to respond to attacks from those scumbags and Hunter is not one to just take it.


30 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:09 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: mnehrling

And the meltdown in the press. This country will survive Pelosiville. But the morning after just isn't as fun when the press is so openly gleeful.


31 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:12 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You win a few, you lose a few, you soldier on............


32 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:39 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

33 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:55 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

True. It is not the end of the world. It'll be even tougher to get anything done here in DC, but maybe that's what people really want.

My personal opinion is that the GOP lost because so many in the party didn't stay true to their principles. The GOP hasn't gotten it done on key issues that their core supporters care about.

We want a balanced budget, we get record deficits. We want secure borders and a comprehensive immigration policy, we get an amnesty plan. We want the size of government reduced, we get rampant unchecked growth. We want school vouchers, we get [crickets chirping]. We want honorable leaders, we get Mark Foley and the Abrahamoff mess.

I am fully expecting to be flamed for this post but there it is anyway. I expect lies, distortions, immorality and arrogance from the Rats. I don't expect or want those things from the GOP--and will hold them to much higher standards than the Rats. I am an average guy, nobody important, but I think there are lots of people who feel the same way I do.

Before the flame begins, let me just say that we did our part. We went out and voted. We contributed to a number of candidates. We posted yard signs and put bumper stickers on our cars and volunteered for our candidates. We did not sit on the sidelines. For all those who did sit on the sidelines, I will not countenance any of your complaints over the next two years when the Rats (led by Speaker-in-waiting Pelosi) run amok. If you didn't do your part, you have lost all credible rights to complain.

This whole dissertation is all about doing the right thing, not the expedient thing. The people want true leaders. We take no satisfaction at all in what happened yesterday. There are many lessons to be learned. Now the question is, will our Republican party listen and adjust their ways?


34 posted on 11/08/2006 6:32:08 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: mirkwood

I know there are factions here on FR who really, really want this to be about illegal immigration. I'm sorry, but it just isn't.


35 posted on 11/08/2006 6:32:23 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Polls matter. They give a sense of the electorate.

Not always. For example, they were completely wrong in the last two Presidential elections.

36 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:20 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Amen to your post about us being there for the troops. In my mind that was the only thing the election was about.

Too bad some conservatives thought it was about their favorite issue.

37 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:31 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: TennTuxedo
I think you are overly. optimistic there is no way in hell the Dems will relinquish power now.
They will assure illegal Mexicans get the vote. They will confirm activist judges, they will pay for new voters with more entitlement handouts. And no matter what the Democrats do the media will ALWAYS spin it as a "Good Thing" This is the beginning of the end.
America is screwed. I swear to God, I feel like a Jew in Nazi Germany. Our days are numbered.
38 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:34 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Yesterday, half of America decided that our troops fighting terrorism can go to hell.

I think half of America decided that the Iraqis just aren't worth dying for. Whatever the mission in Iraq is now, it was sold very well to the American people. It is obviously no longer perceived as a front in the W.O.T.

39 posted on 11/08/2006 6:34:40 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: TennTuxedo
The voters told us that we Republicans don't stand for anything more than the Democrats

Is that REALLY what you got out of this?

Wow.

40 posted on 11/08/2006 6:34:41 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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