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The Backlash Begins
spectator.org ^ | The Washington Prowler

Posted on 11/08/2006 7:25:35 AM PST by lasereye

Already you're seeing people criticizing outgoing Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist for the failures in the Senate. Frist certainly deserves to take hits over his inability to control the likes of Sen. John McCain during legislative battles, but without Frist the election might have looked even worse. Tennessee right now is the only strategic hold the Republicans got on Tuesday night, and it was largely because the Frist operation saw Corker's problems earlier this year, took charge of the campaign and got him back on track. And while some Republicans - Allen, perhaps being the greatest offender - chose not to run on the judges issue, Corker, in fact, did. And he won. That wasn't an accident.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; frist; loser
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To: lasereye

It is easy to see now that the Republicans should have been running on substantive issues. The economy, national security, border control, judges... all these issues work for us. But most Senate candidates chose to ignore all that, and concentrate on quick scores, with Allen being the worst offender.

To be an effective candidate, a Republican must first educate the electorate to understand what these issues are and why they are important. This is a long, drawn out process, and takes time. It cannot be done in a five-second sound bite in between attack ads on your opponent and rah-rah rallies.

I thought Steele ran an excellent campaign in Maryland. That is the race that disappoints me most.


21 posted on 11/08/2006 7:45:48 AM PST by gridlock (Wrong, wrong. wrong. I was wrong. Time to work out ways to prevail in the new environment.)
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To: lasereye
Strange how Republican senate candidates don't talk about that. I think they don't know how to explain it or something.
I think the Rats gained huge support from the people unhappy with the war in Iraq dragging on. Apparently they want to see it fought here. If you walk away from a war it will follow you.
22 posted on 11/08/2006 7:46:05 AM PST by Big Horn (Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal . Author unknown)
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To: djl_sa

More than most people realize. I personally know several people who are normally not involved at all in politics that went out to vote Dem. for that exact reason.


23 posted on 11/08/2006 7:46:25 AM PST by MMcC
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To: lasereye

I don't know why Allen didn't mention judges. The Gay Marriage Ban won here 58-42%, so obviously a lot of people who care about social issues voted for Webb.

Allen also didn't mention how losing the Senate would cost us in Navy contracts, which means jobs will be lost (because John Warner won't be the chair of the committee anymore, unless Burns or Allen pulls out a miracle).


24 posted on 11/08/2006 7:46:38 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: blue-duncan

John McCain belongs in the Hall of Shame also. These two were just doing his bidding, and now there are some who will claim McCain was right. He was an obstructionist from the word GO! Last night he was in his "Elderly Statesmen Mode", but he, Graham, Hagel, and Bill Kristol will remain defeaters of Republicans to me. However, they didn't do it by themselves....we have too many weak-kneed representatives who are afraid to stand up and expose the corruptness within the Democrat Party. I hate to blame the President, but he should have stopped 'trying to get along' with the Dems after they insulted him every time he offered the olive branch. Ted Kennedy all but spit in his and former President Bush's face after they honored him! I wish former Pres. Bush had waited until GW was out of office before he became buddies with Bill Clinton. All the niceties in the world will not stop Bill or Hillary from stabbing you in the back if you pose even a tiny threat to them.


25 posted on 11/08/2006 7:46:42 AM PST by PeskyOne
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To: stevio

"So we officially lost the Senate too?
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Not yet. On the other hand, there are still plenty of RINO Senators, so a miss would be just about as good as a mile, I'm thinking.

I think Montana's gone, but Virginia? We probably won't know for a few days.


26 posted on 11/08/2006 7:47:35 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: kcbc2001
not gone back and recruited Bouchard in MI to run against Butler in the primary.

Butler may have been able to win. I liked him and voted for him in the primary.

27 posted on 11/08/2006 7:48:43 AM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: Galtoid
It was just a bad night for us up here. In addition to re-electing incumbent "D's", the Dems picked up the state house and almost got the state senate as well. They haven't held both at the same time since WWII. The new judgeship in the area is "too close to call" and our local candidates just got slaughtered, with very few exceptions-even with "good responses from door-to-door". Right now, it's just really hard to see a "bright side". Most of the incumbent Dems are pro-life conservatives, but economic liberals, so that's nothing new for my immediate area.
28 posted on 11/08/2006 7:50:50 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: lasereye

...."outgoing Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist"....

I thought the votes were still being counted in Montana and Virginia?


29 posted on 11/08/2006 7:52:01 AM PST by Mtner77
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To: djl_sa

That was one of the biggest gaffes I've seen this year. I don't see how it got a single vote from people opposing "gambling", because it was never debated so nobody was expecting it.

And it wasn't highly touted, so people who cared to stop gambling didn't even know that Frist had thrown them a bone.

But gamblers knew, and investors in gambling stocks knew, and limited-government conservatives knew.

The republicans hoped that fear over having democrats run the house and senate would be enough, but it wasn't, because conservatives understand that we control our own lives, not the government.


30 posted on 11/08/2006 7:52:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: djl_sa

Also the robust economic numbers, made the whole immigration issue a non-starter this election cycle. And it cost the GOP the Hispanic vote.


31 posted on 11/08/2006 7:52:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: twigs

I keep saying that "God's ways aren't our ways" but that doesn't make me feel much better. Maybe in a couple of hours....thanks for the reminder.


32 posted on 11/08/2006 7:52:36 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: Dems_R_Losers

It is not quite true that the Alito nomination was not an issue in New jersey. I got a pro-Kean computer telephone call on this point. However, I think that the pitch was wrong. It said "You as an Italian-American should be especially interested..."

I am intereseted, but I am not an Italian-American. I don't even have an Italian last name. I have a Pennsylvania-German surname, but am of nicely mixed ethnic background. I still strongly favored Alito's nomination, but why pitch it to me as an ethnic issue?


33 posted on 11/08/2006 7:52:38 AM PST by docbnj
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To: kcbc2001

Even in Texas, the Rats completely took over the Dallas County Government, including the DA race which was considered to be a lock for the GOP here. Even in Texas, it was a bad day for the GOP.


34 posted on 11/08/2006 7:54:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If senators and congressmen were term limited then there might not be so much graft, corruption, and isolation from reality.

Maybe not from the elected officials, but the graft, corruption and isolation that would develop from the unelected staffer in Washington would be overwhelming.

35 posted on 11/08/2006 7:54:45 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: madison10

Me too. He had a lot more substance than Bouchard ever had.


36 posted on 11/08/2006 7:55:09 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: dfwgator

In Arizona the English only ballot passed around 70%.

In Colorado the amendment punishing businesses that hire illegals passed.

Most of the Dems that won ran endorsing the House plan.

Your little theory doesn't hold up too well to scrutiny.


37 posted on 11/08/2006 7:57:07 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

What you have said is true. If we had term limits we would not have the Byrds, Kennedys, Lugars, they are entrenched, they needed to be gone a long time. Too much time does breed corruption. Not much of a McCain fan though.


38 posted on 11/08/2006 7:57:08 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: docbnj

"We must emphasize that Democrats won control with CONSERVATIVE candidates. This country didn't sweep Liberals into office last night; each and every race was LOCAL. Rahm and Chuckie (I have to admit) were brilliant. They know in their heart of hearts that Americans are primarily conservative; but they know that under Speaker Pelosi, the newbies will wilt and comply. Look for investigations of Bush and Cheney. Look for a lower stock market. Eventually, though, the people who voted in these nitwits will finally see that Democrats are downright DANGEROUS."

You might say that the liberals were swept in with a moderate-conservative broom. It means that in this case a new broom sweeps dirty.


39 posted on 11/08/2006 7:57:30 AM PST by docbnj
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To: dfwgator

The only bright spots were that we voted for a BAN on affirmative action programs sponsored by the state and AGAINST a mandatory increase (based on inflation rate) for the Public Schools. And they won by solid majorities.


40 posted on 11/08/2006 7:58:37 AM PST by kcbc2001
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