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Michigan voters ban affirmative action
Inside Bay Area ^ | November 8, 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 3:08:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Just as California voters did a decade ago, Michigan voters on Tuesday approved a controversial measure to ban affirmative action programs in public employment and university admissions. The Michigan measure, called Proposal 2, was backed by Ward Connerly, the former University of California regent who also backed California's law, Proposition 209, approved in 1996.

Unofficial final election results today said 58.1 percent voted "yes" on Proposal 2, with 41.9 percent against.

University of Michigan President Mary Sue Coleman said she would investigate an immediate legal challenge to the proposal, which officials said would severely hamper efforts to ensure a diverse student body.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; favoratism; quotas; racialquotas
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1 posted on 11/08/2006 3:08:13 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

Does this apply to clones as well?


2 posted on 11/08/2006 3:09:51 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Snicker


3 posted on 11/08/2006 3:11:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Dan from Michigan; quantim; cripplecreek; MichiganConservative; Beagle8U; michigander; MplsSteve; ..

Well, here is proof that while the election was a defeat for Republicans, it wasn't a victory for liberalism.


4 posted on 11/08/2006 3:12:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Mary Sue Coleman obviously doesn't believe in majority rule......


5 posted on 11/08/2006 3:13:48 PM PST by Ben Mugged
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To: Clintonfatigued

That's what I always tell people about our "blue" state. We may have democrats forced on us by the cities but ballot proposals belong to we the people.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 3:13:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

'Bout time. HooHaa!


7 posted on 11/08/2006 3:15:20 PM PST by pankot
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To: Clintonfatigued

They'll find a judge to throw this out inside of six months, unless it was a constitutional amendment. And even then, they'll probably find one that will find a "penumbra" or something.

}:-)4


8 posted on 11/08/2006 3:17:09 PM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Despite the dems best efforts, sanity has finally arrived in Michigan.


9 posted on 11/08/2006 3:19:34 PM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

How long before a judge throws it out.


10 posted on 11/08/2006 3:21:27 PM PST by jbwbubba
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To: Clintonfatigued
If you look at voter % that elected Grandstand and voted to end AA it is a close match.

What this means is that Detroit can't be blamed for getting the RATS elected, or the Dem's that voted for Grandstand don't support the blacks precious AA program.

Blacks should be questioning what they really gain by their devotion to the RAT party?
11 posted on 11/08/2006 3:22:04 PM PST by Beagle8U (Angry voters tend to make poor choices politically.....Unfortunately we all have to live with them.)
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To: jbwbubba

UofM already plans to challenge.


12 posted on 11/08/2006 3:24:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

How long before the courts overturn this?


13 posted on 11/08/2006 3:25:03 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Clintonfatigued

Ok, and they elect Demonrats. Damn fools.


14 posted on 11/08/2006 3:25:03 PM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: Moose4

And who puts in those judges! Really, the people are just too stupid to vote.


15 posted on 11/08/2006 3:25:56 PM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: Clintonfatigued
We had two victories of sorts in Michigan: 1) the affirmative action ban and 2)defeating a proposal the NEA supported that would have increased education funding with none of the money going to the classroom.

Other than that, it was a miserable night. By reelecting Granholm, Michigan voters still don't understand that clueless blonds may be great in bed but they make lousy governors.
16 posted on 11/08/2006 3:26:36 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Clintonfatigued
University of Michigan President Mary Sue Coleman said she would investigate an immediate legal challenge to the proposal, which officials said would severely hamper efforts to ensure a diverse student body.

And what, exactly, is the benefit of a diverse student body?

17 posted on 11/08/2006 3:27:31 PM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: BW2221

I'm still wondering why Joe Schwarz decided to run as a write in on Monday. Seems that his loss in the primary has addled his brains.


18 posted on 11/08/2006 3:29:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

That vote was to amend the Michigan constitution. While entertaining but saddening, I want to hear a judge say that an amendment to the constitution is un-constitutional. lol.


19 posted on 11/08/2006 3:29:13 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Clintonfatigued
We also banned eminent domain. Said no to allowing the education budget to increase each year with the cost of living, said no to dove hunting, and said yes to protecting fund for state recreation, parks, etc. (meaning the funds can not be raided for other government expenditures.)
20 posted on 11/08/2006 3:30:15 PM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Along with the defeat of Referendum I in Colorado (the 'gay marriage in all but name' initiative), this is one of the most surprising results from the ballot initiatives. Its sad that the state GOP refused to back it, as that left it going along against almost all powerful groups in the state.

Yet still it won easily. The passage of conservative ballot initiatives makes the GOP-whooping a bit easier to take, and it helps prove that the rebuke of the GOP was not a vote for liberalism. The bad news as it relates to these initiatives is that they are all subject to being thrown at the whim of a few activist leftwing judges.


21 posted on 11/08/2006 3:30:33 PM PST by Aetius
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To: meyer
"And what, exactly, is the benefit of a diverse student body?"

Really tall B-ball players?
22 posted on 11/08/2006 3:30:42 PM PST by Beagle8U (Angry voters tend to make poor choices politically.....Unfortunately we all have to live with them.)
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To: bushfamfan
Michigan used to have a lot of Reagan Conservatives, but Bush drove them out of the party constantly supporting business interests and the lack of border security.

Most Reagan Conservatives can't understand why we are waging a war in Iraq and have done nothing to secure the borders.

We need Reagan Democrats in order to win. They are closer to us than Pelosi on most issues, but just like the Dems take the blacks for granted, the GOP does the same thing with blue collar voters that have voted GOP for 25 years.
23 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:17 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Tench_Coxe
That vote was to amend the Michigan constitution. While entertaining but saddening, I want to hear a judge say that an amendment to the constitution is un-constitutional. lol.

Easy, they make up some legal theory that makes the state constitutional amendment violate the US Constitution.

24 posted on 11/08/2006 3:33:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Clintonfatigued


Affirmative Action was always meant to be temporary.


25 posted on 11/08/2006 3:33:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: OldFriend

I know you want be optimistic, but . . .


26 posted on 11/08/2006 3:34:25 PM PST by pilipo
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To: meyer
And what, exactly, is the benefit of a diverse student body?

A diverse student body permits U of Michiagn president Mary Sue Coleman and her colleagues to preen at cocktail parties about how virtuous they are.

Any other questions?

27 posted on 11/08/2006 3:35:23 PM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: BW2221

Good point. Even when I was a union member I was a conservative voter.


28 posted on 11/08/2006 3:37:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Backlash.


29 posted on 11/08/2006 3:38:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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Those damn morning doves will live to annoy me for another year! I'm not sure which makes me madder, the Canukistani in the Gov.'s office, or those damn birds polluting my hearing!

I'm going to form a group of militant gardeners and find some way to rid us of those damn birds! Don't be surprised if you see a bunch of middle-aged ladies, dressed in Michigan Militia leftovers (we all shop at garage sales!), carrying our pop guns, protesting in Lansing.

Dang, I wish the Gov and those birds would have been "blown away"!
30 posted on 11/08/2006 3:38:42 PM PST by blu (Save the cheerleader, save the world!)
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To: Ben Mugged

She has already consulted with attorneys and she is trying to disenfranchise our votes! Well, I would like to get an attorney and have stabenaw, conyers and granholm removed 'cause I didn't vote for them. And a convicted armed robber with a felony as a State Rep. What a joke!


31 posted on 11/08/2006 3:40:58 PM PST by IamHD
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To: Clintonfatigued

The libs are fighting for their right to have the government pick individual winners and losers, politically.

And, Ward Connerly, who opposed them? A distinguished black American.

And, the proposition the libs opposed? Language like Martin Luther King would be proud of, reflecting his dream of all persons being judged by merit and not the color of their skin.


32 posted on 11/08/2006 3:43:34 PM PST by Wuli
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To: IamHD
And a convicted armed robber with a felony as a State Rep.

What's his name? I need it for the next democrat who talks about "THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION"
33 posted on 11/08/2006 3:44:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek

I am not sure Joe Schwarz has any brains. He never would have been nominated in 2004 if it wasn't for the five candidate GOP primary.


34 posted on 11/08/2006 3:47:25 PM PST by BW2221
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To: cripplecreek
Bertram Johnson State Rep. for Highland Park. Of course, there's no money to be stolen from that city....it was all stolen long ago. He'll steal from Federal money. Here's his record, and the Dems would NOT remove him from the ballot and he was uncontested.

BERTram Johnson

35 posted on 11/08/2006 3:49:06 PM PST by IamHD
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To: BW2221

Schwarz had no further intent than to attept to take a few votes away from Walberg.


36 posted on 11/08/2006 3:49:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: IamHD

And of course, he ran as BERT Johnson, but his name is Bertram. Trying to hide his record maybe?


37 posted on 11/08/2006 3:51:38 PM PST by IamHD
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To: Clintonfatigued

Folks, If the 9'th Circus didn't overturn Prop 209, the Sixth , certainly won't.


38 posted on 11/08/2006 3:52:21 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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And what, exactly, is the benefit of a diverse student body?

Careful there, meyer. You are getting dangerously close to hate speech. You are not allowed to ask that question. It is a given that diversity is a positive good for society in all cases.

Unless you want to include white males between 18 and 64 years of age or conservative thinkers of any stripe. People like that are intolerant of diversity and may be excluded.

39 posted on 11/08/2006 3:54:03 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Clintonfatigued
When my wife worked at UofM 16 years ago, she had to attend "diversity training". Turns out that we're not a melting pot after all, but a salad bowl full of complementary individual ingredients...

Like nuts (and lib profs with tenure).

40 posted on 11/08/2006 4:00:46 PM PST by yeff (Liberals are like Slinkies ...useless, but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs :-Þ)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Amazing. People will vote in huge numbers against institutionalized racism (i.e. race quotas), but send people to Congress who will defend it with their very lives.

There is an important lesson to be learned here. Often voters go for the person, having only a vague idea of what they stand for.


41 posted on 11/08/2006 4:02:22 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: yeff

tagline fix
:-Þ


42 posted on 11/08/2006 4:04:09 PM PST by yeff (Liberals are like Slinkies ...useless, but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs :-)
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To: jbwbubba

"How long before a judge throws it out."

Michigan is the third state behind California and Washington. The litigation has been going on for years.


43 posted on 11/08/2006 4:07:16 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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Convicted bank robber with a felony record now a State Rep. The Republicans TRIED to stop this, but Detroit called it racism. Our country is going to He!! in a handbasket. Anything goes, it seems. How depressing.....:(

SOSmichigan

44 posted on 11/08/2006 4:08:42 PM PST by IamHD
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To: meyer

"And what, exactly, is the benefit of a diverse student body"

The evidence is clear. For example, say white accountant, now graduated has to record the purchase of a depreciable asset. The accountant may want to debit an asset account and credit the payment account.

With diversity, that accountant can consider other alternative entries that he would have learned from other cultures.






45 posted on 11/08/2006 4:12:47 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Is there a pool going on how many days before some scumbag liberal judge tells "the people" to drop dead?


46 posted on 11/08/2006 4:24:28 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: cripplecreek

U of M is only good for football...and stupidity.


47 posted on 11/08/2006 4:25:44 PM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: cripplecreek

Proposal 2 was why the dems came out in full force. The results would have been closer had proposal 2 not been on the ballot.....but it was worth it!! I wish prop 3 would've passed


48 posted on 11/08/2006 4:29:21 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (What do you call 2 toddlers and some duct tape??........muslim body armor!!!!!!!)
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To: BW2221
Other than that, it was a miserable night.

Here in mid-MI, Tim Walberg was elected. He beat the freshman-RINO, Joe Schwarz, in the primary; and, he went on to VICTORY!

Eat dirt, whiner schwarz.

49 posted on 11/08/2006 4:41:44 PM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: freespirited
University of Michigan President Mary Sue Coleman said she would investigate an immediate legal challenge to the proposal, which officials said would severely hamper efforts to ensure a diverse student body.

I never thought about it, but there must be a financial reason universities value "affirmative action" above education. Universities are all about money, and since they can now get money from Federal education bureaucrats (who are Marxists), they are now all about Marxism and nothing but Marxism.

So I ask, how does affirmative discrimination lead to more money for universities and their ditzy Stalinist presidents? There has to be an answer.

50 posted on 11/08/2006 4:46:38 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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