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Bush eyes Democrats for help on amnesty
The Washington Times ^ | November 9, 2006 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/09/2006 2:14:10 AM PST by NapkinUser

President Bush yesterday said he will team up with Democrats to pass an immigration bill with a guest-worker program that his own party blocked this year, and his Republican opponents predicted a bloody intraparty fight but said they cannot stop such a bill from passing.

"We will fight it, we will lose. It will go to the Senate, it will pass. The president will sign it. And it will happen quickly because that's one thing they know they can pass," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican and chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, who had led the opposition to a guest-worker plan. "I am absolutely horrified by this prospect, but I have to face reality."

Mr. Bush supported a bipartisan majority in the Senate this year that passed a broad immigration bill including a new worker program and citizenship rights for millions of illegal aliens. But House Republicans blocked those efforts, calling them an amnesty, and instead forced through a bill to erect nearly 700 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2007amnesty; aliens; crimigration; gopsurrender; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; jorgearbustoisback; lareconquista; notthiscrapagain; peoplewhodidntvote; sameoldbushbash; savagelistners; shamnesty
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Here it comes....
1 posted on 11/09/2006 2:14:12 AM PST by NapkinUser
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To: NapkinUser

Yep. :(


2 posted on 11/09/2006 2:15:21 AM PST by Schnucki ("When a mullah calls, an undertaker is sure to follow." -- old Persian saying)
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To: NapkinUser

Amnesty is SUCH a bad idea.


3 posted on 11/09/2006 2:17:13 AM PST by nofaceveils
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To: NapkinUser

The question, how important is his illegal alien plan to him?


4 posted on 11/09/2006 2:20:16 AM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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To: NapkinUser

Make the new Democrat congress go on record by voting for it so when the recently elected Democrats from Republican districts (like Lampson) run in 08 they can't claim to have been tough on immigration.


5 posted on 11/09/2006 2:20:38 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: NapkinUser
Bush eyes Democrats for help on amnesty

Bush offers Democrats perpetual power- a massive and rapid increase in the Democrat voting base.

6 posted on 11/09/2006 2:21:11 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: NapkinUser
NO! Over our dead body... if you persist Mr. President, don't count on us to be there for you when the Democrats come for your scalp. This is a red line with the base. READ OUR LIPS, NO AMNESTY!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

7 posted on 11/09/2006 2:21:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: bmwcyle

I think The import and regularization of Democrat voters/illegal aliens has been Bush's highest priority since 2004 at least.


8 posted on 11/09/2006 2:22:24 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Lampson might as well vote for it. He is nothing more than a two year rental for the democrats, that seat is a sure republican pick-up in 2008 when a republican not named Tom DeLay is on the ballot (and no write-ins.)


9 posted on 11/09/2006 2:22:37 AM PST by NapkinUser (Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
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To: goldstategop

What does he have to lose?


10 posted on 11/09/2006 2:22:43 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: NapkinUser

Mexico will win. (?)

Without firing a shot.

(But that's what you wind up with when you have a President getting policy advice from his housekeeper.)

Maybe ....


11 posted on 11/09/2006 2:22:53 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: durasell
His job. Can you imagine him being forced out like Richard Nixon? The Democrats would love that and no - I wouldn't like to see Bush be impeached but even I have a red line where I have to withdraw my support for our President. For me, our national sovereignty and cohesion as a country is not for sale at any price.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

12 posted on 11/09/2006 2:24:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Bush is safe. The democrats don't want Cheney as president.


13 posted on 11/09/2006 2:27:31 AM PST by Loud Mime (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire)
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To: goldstategop

By the time they take office he'll have less than 2 years left and they hate Cheney more than the President. There won't be an impeachment -- just lots of investigations and a couple resignations.


14 posted on 11/09/2006 2:27:55 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: NapkinUser

Bush finds a silver lining to the democRAT's win - another attempt at amnesty for all the illegals.


15 posted on 11/09/2006 2:28:11 AM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: NapkinUser

If Bush pulls that stunt, then I will no longer support him.


16 posted on 11/09/2006 2:30:27 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: bmwcyle
"The question, how important is his illegal alien plan to him?"

From his perseverance and bringing up this incendiary topic topic just before the election and on the day after the election debacle, it is appears that it is more important than almost anything else. He is rushing to import and legalize millions of dependent Democrat voters. As he moves left to make nice and govern with a Democrat Congress, we may wonder if he is still a Republican. It is going to be quite a ride.

17 posted on 11/09/2006 2:31:11 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Sprite518

If Bush pulls that stunt, then I will no longer support him.



...and?


18 posted on 11/09/2006 2:31:25 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: meyer
Uggghhhhhhhh! That turns me off! An amnesty could be the worst thing that could happen in this country. And I mean it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 11/09/2006 2:31:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: durasell

GW Bush is not, and never has been a conservative but he is well on his way to destroying the Republican Party through an ill-conceived and unnecessary foriegn war, idiotic uncontrolled domestic spending and an inane desire to please the political opposition while poking his finger in the eyes of the folks who supported him.


20 posted on 11/09/2006 2:36:19 AM PST by laconic
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To: Truth29
From his perseverance and bringing up this incendiary topic topic just before the election and on the day after the election debacle, it is appears that it is more important than almost anything else. He is rushing to import and legalize millions of dependent Democrat voters. As he moves left to make nice and govern with a Democrat Congress, we may wonder if he is still a Republican. It is going to be quite a ride.

I'm not quite sure how much farther to the left he can move on this issue. Illegals (the ones that aren't already voting illegally) will present a supermajority for the liberals since they fit perfectly within the demographic description of a democRAT. They are predominantly low-skilled freeloaders, living off the taxpayer-funded benefits just like the rest of the democRATS.

One of the results of the Republicans trying to "make nice" with the enemy is that the Republicans have given up the majority.

21 posted on 11/09/2006 2:38:24 AM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: durasell
If Bush pulls that stunt, then I will no longer support him.

Then prepare to stop supporting him. The House Republicans were his only roadblock on amnesty. It's a done deal now. The only silver lining is that Republicans who oppose it can campaign on this issue in '08 and it'll likely be a winner with voters.
22 posted on 11/09/2006 2:39:08 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: laconic

ouch!


23 posted on 11/09/2006 2:39:34 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: irishjuggler

I didn't write that -- follow the thread up one.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 2:40:23 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: goldstategop
NO! Over our dead body... if you persist Mr. President, don't count on us to be there for you when the Democrats come for your scalp. This is a red line with the base. READ OUR LIPS, NO AMNESTY!

You can count me in.

25 posted on 11/09/2006 2:41:08 AM PST by Razz Barry
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To: NapkinUser

I'm real glad that message was sent to the republicans.

What a great message to stab in the back the congress that blocked bush's amnesty.

So now we have amnesty and the dems will block conservative judges.

This is a great lesson in being careful what you wish for.

Some conservatives said what is the big deal losing the house for two years. But that sentiment also took down the senate.

If you look at the 08 election I see very few seats changing back. Gop districts are far less partisan than dem districts. Those new members will stay no matter what pelosi does. They can vote against bills with the majority they have now and pick off some rinos.

Sending a message will give pelosi leadership for a decade.

It took 12 years for the dems to get back the house.

Be careful what you wish for a message can turn into a long national nightmare.

Now looking at the senate I don't see two pickup oppurtunities. We will be even in a worse situation defending red seats in blue areas.

This was bush's last chance to get judges through committees. Ted Kennedy will tie up all of bush's judges the next two years.

Conservatives that stayed home in virginia and montana didn't think about the judiciary.

If Allen and Burns had high turnout in conservative areas they would have won.


26 posted on 11/09/2006 2:42:13 AM PST by jamesrichards
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To: durasell

Oh, sorry. Most folks use italics for quotations. My apologies, though.


27 posted on 11/09/2006 2:47:22 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: NapkinUser

This is an outrage. The country is being destroyed, filled with people who do not respect its ideals. This amnesty is a betrayal of the first order.


28 posted on 11/09/2006 2:51:08 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Sprite518
If Bush pulls that stunt, then I will no longer support him.

and join the 31,591,495 out of 56,646,064 who didn't support him on Tuesday? With support like this, Bush's chances in '08 are not looking very good. ;-)
29 posted on 11/09/2006 2:55:50 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: NapkinUser

I'm horrified,too. I strongly believe that if action had been taken against ILLEGALS, we would have held on because the base would have known their reps would have been responsive to the will of their constituents.


30 posted on 11/09/2006 2:56:42 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: NapkinUser
Wow, that was fast. At this rate, George might even be able to get to sign a new Assault Weapons Ban by Christmas. < /sarcasm >

Sadly, if he does this, whatever good the man has done will not be remembered, and this will end up one of the biggest parts of his "legacy".

31 posted on 11/09/2006 3:01:39 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: NapkinUser

Boy, those "real conservatives" who decided to stay at home to "teach the Republicans a lesson" sure showed us, huh?

I hope they all note what happens when REAL liberals take over Congress.


32 posted on 11/09/2006 3:06:12 AM PST by Deo et Patria
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To: NapkinUser

I think IF Senate had passed strong immigration policy before the election it may not had turned out this badly!

I am in Italy right now and they are commenting on our elections.Their comments are that we lost because of the Iraq war.

In England the Conservative Party is passing very STRONG Immigration policies against all illegal immigrants and putting a cap on all immigrants entering their country while our country allows anyone to enter with no caps, big mistake!

Here in Italy I only get to see about 3 TV shows in ENGLISH
everything else is in Italian. Newspapers are in Italian.
I liked London because everything there was in english.

We get CNN international here in english.
Euro's here in Italy are better than the pound.
Quite costly in both countries.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 3:11:35 AM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I'd like to find a list of all the dems newly elected who ran on opposing any form of amnesty. John Tester (Montana) ran on it, so he'll have to negate a McCain vote for re-election chances. Dorgan, although not newly elected, is also a dem who also opposes amnesty (as does Byrd).

If anyone else on FR knows of some anti-amnesty winners, please list them. We just may have a fighting chance of defeating GWB's dangerously misguided love affair with criminals. Of course, Pence is running for minority leader, and he favors an amnesty-in-disguise plan. We must be vigilant!

Regards . . . Penny

34 posted on 11/09/2006 3:14:32 AM PST by Penny
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To: NapkinUser
if Bush supports the senate amnesty bill...giving every break to illegals....welfare/social security/health benefits/in state school tuition/first in line for citizenship.... I will support pelosi and conyers in the impeachment....after all he then becomes nothing more than their useful idiot....

and please don't post and say I was one that stayed home to teach republicans a lesson...what shi-ite...I was in the polls by 6:30 am voting in futility for a straight (r) ticket in NJ!!!!!
35 posted on 11/09/2006 3:14:53 AM PST by hnj_00
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"his Republican opponents predicted a bloody intraparty fight but said they cannot stop such a bill from passing."


Give me a break, most of the new Dems in house do not support amnesty! If my congressman along with the new anti-amnesty dems cannot stop this, then I will be voting out my last remaining republican representative!
36 posted on 11/09/2006 3:21:23 AM PST by excludethis
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To: excludethis

interesting.


37 posted on 11/09/2006 3:23:40 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: NapkinUser

If the 86 amnesty can be an example of what will happen in the future, another amnesty will not only be granted to those that reside here illegally. Any and all illegals that enter before the filing deadline regardless of whether or not they crossed the day before or five years prior will be granted amnesty.


38 posted on 11/09/2006 3:27:37 AM PST by Ajnin (I)
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To: NapkinUser

That will surely endear him to conservatives. NOT


39 posted on 11/09/2006 3:27:54 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: jamesrichards

Your analysis/comments are excellent.


40 posted on 11/09/2006 3:33:35 AM PST by olderwiser
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To: NapkinUser
Here it comes..

I had not even had my morning cup of coffee Wednesday morning, after staying up to 3AM watching returns, when the first thing that I heard yesterday morning was "Immigration Reform". I had not heard that term in weeks.

41 posted on 11/09/2006 3:37:51 AM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: Penny

I think you named three Democrats who oppose Amnesty. I will make a cyber bet with you. When the vote comes---they will vote for it. Byrd too.


42 posted on 11/09/2006 3:40:27 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Like he gives a damn.


43 posted on 11/09/2006 3:40:34 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: goldstategop

I knew this was coming, I can not believe how tone death thsi president is.


44 posted on 11/09/2006 3:42:03 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: NapkinUser

Maybe not, I have heard rumors that the state party is thinking of seeing if he would switch parties. If he does they will support him, if not he is toast.


45 posted on 11/09/2006 3:44:20 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: excludethis
Tester actually seems to be, at least publically, at least as strong against illegal immigration as Burns was:

From Tester's web site:
Our first priority must be to secure ports and borders to keep out terror threats, illegal drugs and illegal immigrants. Jon Tester opposes amnesty for those who are here illegally. People who want to come to America should follow the rules — and we should enforce them. There should be no cuts in line. Moreover, hiring illegal aliens is no joking matter. Tester believes we need to enforce the law on employers who hire illegal immigrants no matter who they are. It’s not just a matter of fairness — it’s a question of national security.
Brown also has a slightly better voting record on amnesties than DeWine did.
46 posted on 11/09/2006 3:50:29 AM PST by ruination
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To: NapkinUser

Well, for all you Repubs who wanted to send a message to the Repub party by voting 3rd party or not al all...here it comes-amnesty for illegals. The house was the only things standing in the way of Amesty legislation. Now you can bet the program will be in effect by next year.


47 posted on 11/09/2006 3:52:07 AM PST by nyconse
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To: NapkinUser

Oh, goody...


48 posted on 11/09/2006 3:52:59 AM PST by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: NapkinUser

The Republican Party can either stand for something or nothing. If they wish to survive, perhaps it's time for the Republicans to philibuster their own President. If they look carefully, they will see he isn't running for anything any more.


49 posted on 11/09/2006 3:53:01 AM PST by stevem
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To: NapkinUser
This ought'a make Hillary a lock for 2008.
50 posted on 11/09/2006 3:53:54 AM PST by johnny7 (?And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!???)
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