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Compassionate Conservatism Lost
Townhall.com ^ | Wednesday, November 8, 2006 | Herman Cain

Posted on 11/09/2006 7:25:30 AM PST by Small-L

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To: A_perfect_lady
Can we bring back Dispassionate Conservatism now?

No, but would you settle on Heartless Conservatismn?

51 posted on 11/09/2006 8:34:50 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: meandog

No. 26: a keeper!


52 posted on 11/09/2006 8:37:46 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: Txsleuth

Please..Kerry was not the answer to these issues in 2004...


53 posted on 11/09/2006 8:58:28 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: af_vet_rr
Nothing personal against Allen but I think he Burns, DeWine and especially W....symbolized the era of "big government conservatism" or "compassionate conservatism" or whatever you want to call it is now as dead as Custer's bugler...and I am happy about that. It was killing us as a movement and our country as a whole. Our forward deficits went from 20 trillion to 40 trillion in just 4 years. This wipe-out needed to be done...better now then 08.

Denny Hastert will now be replaced by Pence ....Hallelujah!

And if any presidential candidate for the Repub nominee even talks about "comprehensive immigration policy" without a fence being built will be toast without a plate.
54 posted on 11/09/2006 9:03:25 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: mak5

"This country could use a little less compassion and a whole lot more conservatism from this administration."


****POST OF THE DAY




/rant/ HANDOUTS AND ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT COMPASSION!!
THEY ARE BONDAGE!/rant


55 posted on 11/09/2006 9:07:08 AM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: FastCoyote
That is absolutely false. The idea has always been, build a wall FIRST and prove sincerity about controlling borders, THEN work on dealing with those here. Don't try and pin the Troglodyte label on anti-ILLEGAL immigrant conservatives, it just doesn't fly.

Well, it may not be what you wanted, but almost every poll for months reflected that a majority of Americans wanted some type of comprehensive immigration reform that included a path to citizenship and/or a guest worker program similar to what the President wanted. The fact that both houses of Congress were comprised of a majority of Republicans, and both houses passed immigration bills, yet refused to come together to even attempt to settle differences tells much.

While a comprehensive bill under the Republicans may not have been perfect, what we are going to get now with a Democrat congress will be far worse.

Apparently, they were too busy trying to amend the Constitution to bother with immigration, budgets, and energy. Nor did I use the term troglodyte...you did.

56 posted on 11/09/2006 9:11:53 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: Blackirish
"And if any presidential candidate for the Repub nominee even talks about "comprehensive immigration policy" without a fence being built will be toast without a plate"

Unfortunately they won't have the opportunity. This will be passed into law in the next six months unless I miss my guess....Thank you "W".

57 posted on 11/09/2006 9:11:56 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: meandog
A conservative meets a homeless alcholic on the street who asks him for a dollar; he yells a few obsentities at the man for being a bum and a drunk then passes him by, ignoring the principles of the Christianity he wears on his sleeve.
A liberal meets the same man, grabs him against his will, stuffs him in his vehicle and takes him to a AA shelter which is supported by tax dollars (none of which the drunk wants) then forgets about him and tells himself he's done a good deed. Suffering from the DTs, the drunk later dies.
A libertarian meets the man and gives him a dollar to help buy a bottle of Thunderbird.

It's true. I'm a Libertarian at heart.

58 posted on 11/09/2006 9:13:58 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: MACVSOG68; FastCoyote

Well, it may not be what you wanted, but almost every poll for months reflected that a majority of Americans wanted some type of comprehensive immigration reform that included a path to citizenship and/or a guest worker program similar to what the President wanted




I really doubt that. Show me 1 poll that reflects this please.


59 posted on 11/09/2006 9:18:13 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Rakkasan1

Too bad freedom isn't selling to the sheeple. They want to be taken care of. Many would vote for an out-of-the-tyrant-closet brutal dictator if he promised them free health care and continued Social(ist) Security payments.


60 posted on 11/09/2006 9:25:43 AM PST by MichiganConservative (The US is so full of domestic enemies, maybe all we can do is slow the inevitable ascent of tyranny.)
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To: Blackirish
More like "almost every poll for months reflected that a majority of Americans wanted some type of comprehensive immigration reform that included a path to citizenship" the borders enforced, employers of illegals punished, immigration laws enforced and amnesty for illegals defeated.
61 posted on 11/09/2006 9:27:15 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: MassExodus
While going in too soft in the "War on Terror", his credibility is completetly shot

What is completely shot (I hope) is this notion of a patient electorate waiting for the war on terror to be won.

Americans are the least patient people on the planet.

They love 'Mission Accomplished' but loathe 'Hold the Course'.

Mr. Bush - what have you done for me lately ?


BUMP

62 posted on 11/09/2006 9:45:23 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.


63 posted on 11/09/2006 9:47:02 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: MACVSOG68
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We had a great opportunity to formulate a reasonable immigration reform package, but the House stood firm in the face of dozens of polls showing Americans wanted comprehensive immigration reform...and wanted some type of path to citizenship for those already here. We blew it!

Well then as soon as Bush signs the new reform package he will get from the Dems, we will ne back in power.

Right!


64 posted on 11/09/2006 9:52:36 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: Txsleuth
Those that did, KNEW that he was for a comprehensive immigration policy..

No, they voted against Kerry, not the same thing.

65 posted on 11/09/2006 9:54:08 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: rhombus
I think Ronald would have had a more positive and hopeful message.

Unfortunately he is dead, the reality is we have GW.

66 posted on 11/09/2006 9:56:03 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: Small-L

No, socialism packaged as conservatism lost.


67 posted on 11/09/2006 9:58:16 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Blackirish

"I really doubt that. Show me 1 poll that reflects this please."

Here are a few during the Senate debate:

FOX 7/13/06
37% to 32% feel Democrats would do better job on immigration
37% to 31% feel Republicans would do better job on border security
Failure to pass a bill would be Bush and Republican congressional fault 43%. Democrats in congress 21%
41% to 36% Immigrants give to the country rather than take away
51% say immigrants should decrease; 41% no change or increase
34% feel borders should be secured first; 35% feel deal with those here first; 28% both equally

Tarrance Group Survey 6/12-13/06
75% of likely voters wanted something similar to the Senate version
49% said it was not amnesty
95% said it was important to pass a bill this year

Gallup 6/8-25/06
59% said immigration should remain at current levels or increase
67% said immigration was a good thing; 28% said bad
66% said illegals cost too much; 29% pay fair share
74% say illegal immigrants take jobs most Americans don't want
66% say illegals should remain if they meet certain requirements; 16% want to deport all

LA Times/Bloomberg 6/24-27/06
34% - 23% Democrats can do better on immigration
87% say immigration is most important or one of most important issues
51% say illegals take jobs no American wants
46% support guest worker program; 22% oppose
67% want illegals to have a path to citizenship
44% want a felony for being in US illegally
58% want a tougher enforcement combined with a guest worker program
22% want only tougher enforcement
60% will be disappointed if no bill is passed this year

NBC/Wall Street Journal 6/9-12/06
50% want increased border security
40% want a guest worker program; 34% do not
More today believe Democrats will do better on immigration than 11/05
50% feel immigration helps; 50% feels it hurts. 12/05 hurts was 53%, helps was 37%
50% favor the Senate Bill; 33% favor the House Bill

CBS News Poll 6/10-11/06
33% approve of President Bush on immigration; 56% disapprove

API/Ipsos 5/15-17/06
52% believe immigration is a good influence on US; 46% a bad influence

Fox News Poll 5/16-18/06
57% feel illegal immigration is very serious problem, 29% somewhat serious
63% favor letting those with jobs apply for legal, temporary worker status
55% favor sending as many back as possible

CBS News Poll 5/16-17/06
77% favor Senate approach to citizenship
61% favor a guest worker program

CNN Poll 5/16-17/06
50% disapprove of Bush handling of immigration; 36% approve
79% favor the Senate approach to citizenship
66% favor increasing penalties for employers who hire illegals

ABC News/Washington Post Poll 5/11/15/06
77% feel US not doing enough to prevent illegal immigration

Newsweek Poll 5/11-12/06
61% disapprove of Bush handling of immigration

CBS News/NY Times Poll 5/4-8/06
61% say legal immigration should be at current levels or increased; 34% say decreased
89% say illegal immigration is a very serious or somewhat serious problem
53% feel illegal immigrants take jobs no one wants; 36% feel they take jobs away
61% feel illegals should be given chance to keep jobs; 35% feel they should be deported
66% oppose a 700 mile fence; 29% favor
70% feel illegals weaken the economy

These polls show that most Americans consider immigration a serious issue, most want strong enforcement, but most want something similar to the Senate version.


I can also show more going back to late last year showing similar results.


68 posted on 11/09/2006 10:05:37 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: 100-Fold_Return

GOP sealed it's fate when we rejected shamnesty. Does anyone trust e voting?


69 posted on 11/09/2006 10:07:13 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: Revolting cat!
No. 26: a keeper!

I second this. The voters got tired of the lies.

Vancomycin-resistant Socialistococcus aholes

70 posted on 11/09/2006 10:09:36 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE VRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: MACVSOG68
Thanks...there is both good and distressing news in those polls.

One of the things that really ticked me off about W is signing the fence with all that fanfare 2 weeks before the election.

It had everything but funding...a contractor...a start date...it was an illusion .I don't appreciate someone pissing on my leg and telling me how nice the rain is.
71 posted on 11/09/2006 10:16:37 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
It had everything but funding...a contractor...a start date...it was an illusion .I don't appreciate someone pissing on my leg and telling me how nice the rain is.

Agree completely with that. The fence is a total illusion.

72 posted on 11/09/2006 10:21:08 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
Agree completely with that. The fence is a total illusion.

At least you all didn't spend tons of money on crappy webcams like Texas did, and call it a deterent!
73 posted on 11/09/2006 10:57:29 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
We must keep praying until God answers our prayers, and literally changes the atmosphere from depression and despair to love, joy, and REAL peace.

In the words on an unnamed priest during the attack on Pearl Harbor, "Praise the Lord... and pass the ammunition".

The Lord helps those who help themselves. Praying is very well and good, but your daily actions as a human being are what determines the political future of this country.

Motivate. Communicate. Make a difference.
74 posted on 11/09/2006 11:13:31 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: MACVSOG68
While a comprehensive bill under the Republicans may not have been perfect, what we are going to get now with a Democrat congress will be far worse.

What can be worse than granting blanket amnesty and eventual citizenship to the 20 million illegals already here? What could be worse than extending that amnesty to over 100,000,000 illegals in the next ten to twenty years? The existing Senate shamnesty "plan" does exactly those things.

BTW, I have yet to see a single reputable poll that shows a majority of Americans requesting an amnesty program; in fact, the exact opposite is true... which is why the original Senate plan was tossed out by Congress.
75 posted on 11/09/2006 11:26:05 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: MACVSOG68

RE your post #68:

You'll notice that most of those polls use the word "immigration" rather than "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigration". Also, if any of those polls discussed the actual issues at hand (such as the projected $500,000,000,000.00 price tag for "comprehensive reform" over the next decade), you would see the numbers change radically.

Finally, Congress threw out the Senate plan because of OVERWHELMING resistance against it... that resistance came from the voters.


76 posted on 11/09/2006 11:33:03 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Ahh, yes... the "Virtual Fence". It really is a fence. Virtually, anyway.


77 posted on 11/09/2006 11:36:06 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: snowrip
What can be worse than granting blanket amnesty and eventual citizenship to the 20 million illegals already here? What could be worse than extending that amnesty to over 100,000,000 illegals in the next ten to twenty years? The existing Senate shamnesty "plan" does exactly those things.

To the contrary. Yes, there are about 20 million illegals here. No, most will not qualify under the terms of the bill. Please point to the provision that authorizes 100 million illegals to become citizens. What can be worse? Had the Republican house agreed to meet in conference, much of what most of us dislike and much of what we like in the house bill would have come together. Now the house bill is dead. A comprehensive package will now look pretty much like the Senate version. It's called shooting oneself in the foot!

78 posted on 11/09/2006 11:52:11 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: snowrip
You'll notice that most of those polls use the word "immigration" rather than "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigration".

Spin it all you want. What the polls show is that most Americans wanted a comprehensive package that permitted those already here to stay. I also have about twenty more polls showing much the same thing. Most Americans know you cannot find and deport 20 million illegals.

$500,000,000,000.00 price tag for "comprehensive reform" over the next decade), you would see the numbers change radically.

Yep. If it were true. But of course, we know that the major part of the price tag will be what you want anyway, which is a completely secure border, with a 50 foot high wall and ten immigration agents every 100 feet. Then, of course, finding, charging, jailing and ultimately deporting 20 million felons is the rest of the cost.

Finally, Congress threw out the Senate plan because of OVERWHELMING resistance against it... that resistance came from the voters.

So all the polls were wrong? So the Democrats who overwhelmingly favored the Senate bill were not elected yesterday?

79 posted on 11/09/2006 12:00:22 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Your post abandons rational thought, given the mountain of evidence contrary to your positions. As such, I am not inclined to waste time with a reponse to each point. However, read and learn.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632758/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638411/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637450/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1636823/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637441/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638077/posts


80 posted on 11/09/2006 12:18:23 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: snowrip
Your post abandons rational thought, given the mountain of evidence contrary to your positions. As such, I am not inclined to waste time with a reponse to each point. However, read and learn.

So in other words you can't point to the provisions in the bill itself?

The only positions I put forth were that most Americans favored a comprehensive package which included some version of the Senate bill. I gave you proof of that and offered more. I also stated that the fence, security, and enforcement would be a large part of the price tag. Finally, I took the position that I doubt you will be thrilled with what the Dems come up with. Which of those abandons rational thought?

Now that you've insulted me, at least enlighten me.

81 posted on 11/09/2006 12:45:54 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
These polls show that most Americans consider immigration a serious issue, most want strong enforcement, but most want something similar to the Senate version.

Then the best thing W could do is pursue the 'guest worker program' he so badly wants.

His job approval numbers afterwards will indicate how right you and your survey results were. Unfortunately, we'll all have to live with the consequences of this little experiment - forever.

82 posted on 11/09/2006 12:47:28 PM PST by skeeter
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To: MACVSOG68

My apologies for having insulted you.

My point is that there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary of all your positions, but that I did not have the time nor the inclination to regurgitate fifty pages of documents and testimony... which is why I included a few links.


83 posted on 11/09/2006 12:55:51 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: skeeter
Then the best thing W could do is pursue the 'guest worker program' he so badly wants.

His job approval numbers afterwards will indicate how right you and your survey results were. Unfortunately, we'll all have to live with the consequences of this little experiment - forever.

As a lame duck president, He won't get credit in any case. But if the new congress does pass a comprehensive bill that includes sufficient enforcement and border controls, they will benefit from that in '08.

As for an "experiment", leaving 20 million illegals running around doesn't seem like much of a winner either, but that's what's been happening for years.

84 posted on 11/09/2006 12:57:57 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
But if the new congress does pass a comprehensive bill that includes sufficient enforcement and border controls, they will benefit from that in '08.

Speaking of enforcement, any ideas on what happened to the 'enforcement' provisions in the 86 bill?

While you're at it, since you apparently believe its a good idea, any encouraging words on why we should expect anything different this time?

85 posted on 11/09/2006 1:00:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: snowrip
My point is that there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary of all your positions, but that I did not have the time nor the inclination to regurgitate fifty pages of documents and testimony... which is why I included a few links.

I have seen no evidence that the polls on immigration over the past year are inaccurate. My position was that if Americans wanted comprehensive immigration reform, the Republicans' failure to meet in conference and carve out one did not help them in the election Tuesday. If in fact some of the several varied projections of cost were valid, then those items could well have been dealt with in conference. I seriously doubt there is any information out there contrary to those points.

86 posted on 11/09/2006 1:05:34 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: skeeter
Speaking of enforcement, any ideas on what happened to the 'enforcement' provisions in the 86 bill?

Well, it only covered 2 years, 1987 and 1988, and authorized INS an increase of 50% over 1986. What happened after that and after four presidencies is anyone's guess. It's pretty obvious, it was insufficient, leading to the estimated 20 million here now.

While you're at it, since you apparently believe its a good idea, any encouraging words on why we should expect anything different this time?

Nope. But you don't stop trying. What I believe is a good idea is a comprehensive bill that includes much of what the House had and some of what the Senate had. If the Republicans had met in conference they could well have worked it out so that security of the border was first, then enforcement and legalization second. But now that will never happen, since the Democrats will craft the bill they want.

87 posted on 11/09/2006 1:18:06 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
But now that will never happen, since the Democrats will craft the bill they want.

And the president will happily sign it.

All we can hope for now is a republican filibuster. Ironic, eh?

88 posted on 11/09/2006 1:24:08 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Small-L

Savage claims he invented Compassionate Conservatism back in the early 90s. Wrap it up and deliver it back to him. Maybe he can resell it to somebody.


89 posted on 11/09/2006 1:26:29 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

Ping.


90 posted on 11/09/2006 1:28:25 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: skeeter
All we can hope for now is a republican filibuster. Ironic, eh?

Indeed. Doubt the Republicans will filibuster it, if it comes close to the last Senate version though. And the House needs only a majority. Perhaps the Republicans will reconsider a conference between now and January....

91 posted on 11/09/2006 1:37:43 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
On the other hand, there's always opposition from the 'blue dog' demos, many of whom ran on the border security issue. Perhaps they can forge an aliiance with the republican members that aren't yet ready to roll over for big business's unlimited cheap labor wet dream.

Grasping at straws, for sure, but I'm hoping enough people realize how critical this issue is for not only the long term prospects for the GOP but the nation.

92 posted on 11/09/2006 1:42:03 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

The question is "What will the Repubs go for at this point"? If they are willing to compromise on the legalization issue, there may be a chance for passage of something legitimate. But if they try and hold out for only enforcement, they will come up empty. The Blue-dogs will not take on the liberal leadership in either house.


93 posted on 11/09/2006 2:05:13 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
The Blue-dogs will not take on the liberal leadership in either house.

We shall see how much clout the San Francisco Democrats wield. My guess is not much. They are not the Clintons.

94 posted on 11/09/2006 3:25:17 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Small-L
Republican candidates lose when the party apparatus, whose goal is to win elections, abandons the conservative base, whose goal is conservative policy solutions.

How many times must it be repeated?

They are public servants. We elect them to implement conservative solutions. They asked us for this job.

If they won't do their jobs, they can go home.
95 posted on 11/09/2006 5:26:47 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Small-L
If you want those votes, then act like the conservative Republicans that you claim to be!

Maybe we can write letters to Rove and Mehlman. This would be an exciting and novel concept for those two.
96 posted on 11/09/2006 5:28:56 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: dfwgator

True, it is, but the term compassionate conservatism just became another word for Liberalism lit.


97 posted on 11/09/2006 5:30:50 PM PST by brydic1
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To: George W. Bush

Rove and Mehlmans idea of turning out the vote was to place 10 calls a day to those they thought might vote republican and at least 5 daily emails which clogged the inbox. While I voted republican and would have had I never heard of Rove or Mehlman, I believe those phone calls actually alienated many republicans so much that they refused to vote.


98 posted on 11/09/2006 5:35:35 PM PST by brydic1
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To: brydic1
I believe those phone calls actually alienated many republicans so much that they refused to vote.

Some districts, I think they did this to try to depress the Dim and indy vote, not caring if they alienated Republicans in the process.
99 posted on 11/09/2006 5:52:21 PM PST by George W. Bush
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