Hayworth holds out for final count ( 250,000 ballots not counted yet )

East Valley Tribune ^ | November 9, 2006 | Paul Giblin

[george76]

J.D. Hayworth, who ended up on the short end of the vote count on election night, refused to concede defeat in his re-election bid for Arizona’s 5th Congressional District on Wednesday.

the six-term Republican said he planned to wait out the final count.

Election officials said more than 250,000 ballots cast in Maricopa County have yet to be counted.

They were unable to immediately determine how many of those ballots were from the 5th district, which includes Scottsdale, Tempe, Ahwatukee Foothills, Fountain Hills and surrounding areas.

[george76]

" more than 250,000 ballots cast in Maricopa County have yet to be counted. "

Military, absentee...?

[padre35]

How short of votes is he?

[DBrow]

Pelosi's fault.

[unkus]

Hang in there JD. Hope they didn't get sent over the border.

[george76]

Mitchell led by 5,955 votes among 140,819 votes counted so far.

[Tarheel]

Unofficial results late Wednesday had Democratic challenger Harry Mitchell ahead with 50.5 percent, followed by Hayworth with 46.2 percent and Libertarian Warren Severin with 3.3 percent.

Mitchell led by 5,955 votes among 140,819 votes counted so far.


Above from farther down in the article.

[Cowboy Bob]

Just not counted yet.

Here in the 8th district, there were 210,000 votes. In Hayworth's district (5th), there have only been 140,000 voted counted so far.

According to today's Arizona Daily Star (Tucson), there are 341,000 ballots statewide (60,000 in Pima County) that have yet to be counted.

[FLOutdoorsman]

Wow, thats a ton of votes.

[george76]

'...a lot of absentee ballots out there and a lot of provisional ballots,”

[longtermmemmory]

bump

[CharlesWayneCT]

It's hard to understand how they are certain their marriage amendment lost if they haven't counted a quarter-million ballots yet.

[pwatson]

"50.5 percent, followed by Hayworth with 46.2 percent and Libertarian Warren Severin with 3.3 percent."
Another example of the worthless results the debate society, I mean Libertarians get you, Democrats far worse than any Republican. Good job you Libertarians, how much freedom do you see any Democrats giving you? Fools.

[Lakeshark]

It would be pretty ironic if the libertarian candidate ended up being the difference, and JD lost.

I'm sure they will be proud to have taught JD a lesson.

*rolling eyes*

[Cowboy Bob]

Wow, thats a ton of votes.

Yeah. Randy Graf lost to Gabby Giffords by 24,000 votes. (54% to 42% - other candidates took the difference). With 60,000 votes outstanding, the results could get closer, but should not affect. Graf, who is a strong Conservative, was abandoned by the GOP because he was strong on immigration. The National GOP (with Bush) and Giffords supports Amnesty for the Illegals.

[PghBaldy]

It would be a shame if in the end he loses. Hayworth is a GREAT spokesman for the party.

[george76]

It seems that many issues would be pending.

Even state wide issues should be impacted by 250,000 uncounted ballots.

[PghBaldy]

It is aggravating. It wasn't just this seat that Const voters could have helped elect the Repub...

[george76]

We lost many races across the country by less than one percent...while the Libertarian got two or three percent !

[george76]

Apparently Soros is bank rolling Libertarian candidates so that we go down.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Also, Hayworth said they'd update the web site at 5pm each day with the new totals -- anybody seen an update yet?

The web site says it has the thursday 5:18pm changes, and says:
Hayworth 67830
Mitchell 73762
Severin 4754
Total 146346

So they only added 6,000 votes, and the differences were nil -- Hayworth is behind by 5932 votes, which means he made up 23 votes out of 5000. Hayworth thought they would have done 50,000 of the outstanding ballots.

[westmichman]

Libertarian=Losertarian

[george76]

[meandog]

Hey JD, call Jack Abramhoff...those 250K votes are all owned by the Navaho and Apache reservations there in Arizonia and Jack has connections there. You know Jack, don't you, he's the real reason you got defeated!

[meandog]

Arizonia=Arizona

[TeleStraightShooter]

good question.
Since it is currently behind by 32K votes it would need 55% of the remaining 321K

[Carling]

It would be pretty ironic if the libertarian candidate ended up being the difference, and JD lost.

That's exactly what happened in Montana, where the Libertarian received around 10,000 votes and Burns lost by around 3000 votes.

Yet some Dems are screaming MANDATE?

[Lakeshark]

Do you have a link to that?

Just a little skeptical, not that I have any thing good to say about the lousertarians.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

You have no f'in idea what your talking about about.

[PhiKapMom]

We lost many races across the country by less than one percent...while the Libertarian got two or three percent !

Can someone tell me why they continue to run when they get two or three percent except to defeat Republicans and elect Democrats? Here in OK you have to receive 5% of the vote as a third party to remain on the ballot in the next election.

[george76]

I do not know, but many of the uncounted ballots may be military who vote R alot.

[westmichman]

LOL That's prime. Too bad it looks like I'll have to sell all the stocks in my IRA tomorrow because of Libertarians.

[george76]

Many of these Libertarians demand perfection in their candidate.

Often they say that the candidate must be perfect...

[george76]

" Must be some kind of celebration at libertarian central knowing they've created a socialist landslide in the middle of a war."


by norton

[Aetius]

Still, I wonder how badly Congressman Rehberg could have beaten Tester. He won his House seat with 59%, so even though a Senate race would have been considerably closer, that would have been quite a bit of popularity to work with.

[george76]

...just this :

---

" Makes you wonder if George Soros was donating to the campaigns of the local Libertarian candidates.

ACLU was pushing for the local Libertarian, Smither in TX CD22, who drew some Republican voters away from the Republican write-in candidate.

The DNC actually gave $50k to a nobody write-in candidate, in another attempt to bleed off support for the Republican write-in candidate."

by anymouse

[meandog]

You have no f'in idea what your talking about about.

He took Abramhoff's money didn't he?

[PerConPat]

"Must be some kind of celebration at libertarian central knowing they've created a socialist landslide in the middle of a war." by norton

My goodness, can't we all just get along? Perhaps the Libertarian Party are trying to return us to the golden days of yesteryear- the 100% Constitutional Society (that may have never been). Take heart, at the rate the Libertarians are gaining supporters, this will only take another 200 or so years. In the meantime, undereducated semi-patriots will just have to tough it out alone and do what they can at the polls to fight the Pelosi's etc..

[WOSG]

"Can someone tell me why they continue to run when they get two or three percent except to defeat Republicans and elect Democrats?"

No. However ...
Like some of the unappeasables on this board, I think there are some types who enjoy making us suffer socialism and tweaking nose of Republicans.

[CharlesWayneCT]

In Va Allen lost by 7000 votes, and the green-independent got 26,000. Hard to say she stole votes from Allen though, since I think she got the votes of people who hated both parties.

She actually offered to endorse either candidate if they would promise to consider rapid rail transit, but neither candidate took her seriously. Now she's saying she could have given Allen a win, but I doubt her "voters" would have listened to her and voted for Allen (well, maybe 7000 would have, but another 7000 would have probably gone to Webb just to vote against Allen).

Probably the libertarian voters would stay home or not vote, you don't go out of your way to throw away your vote unless you really don't want to vote for someone who can win. So I don't really think the libertarians cost us elections.

[PhiKapMom]

I think that is the reason too. From what I can read of the Libertarian platform they are more closely associated with the DemocRATs then Republicans.

[PhiKapMom]

That is just plain stupid! How many people agree with anyone 100% of the time?

[Jewels1091]

how on earth could there be that many still out?????

[hsmomx3]

Many people do not realize that voting via absentee is very popular here.

As you can tell by the numbers, a large number vote in the privacy of their own homes and send the ballot via USPS.

That is what these are--the mail-ins that are counted last.

[hsmomx3]

Exactly. I wish the same thing could be said about the governor's race.

[george76]

Very good question.

I thought that it was a typo...25,000 not the 250,000 !

[hsmomx3]

Spoilers!!

[hsmomx3]

Because they count them last which I find ridiculous. Why can't they count them first and be done with them since they have to be in by a certain date.

[ChurtleDawg]

if all the senate races across the US are looked at, they won by 10 points, or about 6 million votes cast overall. 53% of voters voting for a senate candidate picked the rats, 43% picked the republican

[george76]

They can vote by mail ?

How does their identity get checked ?

It must be much easier for voter fraud to happen...

letting dead people vote again ?

[hsmomx3]

We request the ballot and sign a form and send it in. The signature is verified by what they have on file and then it is sent to our home address.

We complete it and return it with signature of course.