Posted on 11/10/2006 12:41:34 PM PST by Vigilanteman
Nothing concrete yet and don't get your hopes up . . . but I have heard from a reliable source at Oklahoma University who is close to the Boren family (father is former senator, governor and current president of the university; son is the lone Democrat in the congressional delegation representing the state's easternmost counties) that many people in the District have family serving in the military in Iraq who have contacted his office and expressed extreme reservations about turning over control of key national security committees to national security risks. Pelosi is holding firm on her pledge to reorganize the house based on strict seniority, including turnover of chairmanship of the house intelligence committee to Congressman A. Hastings of Florida, an impeached federal judge who was convicted for bribery and judicial malfeasance on a near-unanimous vote when the Democrats controlled both houses of congress. If Pelosi does not compromise on national security related committees, then Boren is said to be considering a challenge to her as speaker. This is not an idle threat. Boren is a member of the Blue Dog Democrat coalition, a group which could have as many as 50 members once the new freshman class is sworn in.
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So far, this hasn't hit news as far as I am aware. There is no way all the Blue Dogs would stick with Boren on a challenge because many of them, particularly in the new freshman class, are beholden to George Soros for their election. Another batch of them are fake moderates to give them coverage in a fairly conservative housedistrict.
However, even with undecided house races, the Dems will hold no more than about a 15 seat majority, meaning that if one-third of the Blue Dogs and the Republicans combine, Boren would be the next speaker.
Anyone who has a Blue Dog representative, a potential Blue Dog or even a wavering or spineless Republican as a congressman should be contacted a.s.a.p. to support the Boren plan . . . or Boren rumor as it is currently unconfirmed as being anything other than a trial balloon.
Sounds like too good a man. Hasn't got a chance.
There's no way this can happen. Too many facist-left RATS want to poke us all in the butt with a Pelosi.
I don't know. If the stories coming out be true, and I admit that's a bit 'if', Pelosi is planning some revenge against some of the moderate Democrats that disagreed with her from time to time. And if she does that then she's going to cause a huge rift in the party. If that happens the a moderate like Boren might be able to gather enough support around him to overthrow her.
Wouldn't that be sweet! Especially considering that I heard Pelosi referring to herself as Speaker already.
I will say this now. ANY democrat who votes against Pelosi, and then votes to his principles and what they promised, I will seriously consider supporting THEM in the next election.
All of you republicans who just voted in democrats in heavily republican districts, (whether YOU voted that way or not), now's your chance. Write to your NEW congressman, push for support for Boren for Speaker. This will send a message to our troops.
I would love to do this as a put-up-or-shut-up deal to alleged moderate to conservative Dems. Here's a scenario I dreamed up, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it's plausible or feasible:
Republicans make a deal with conservative Dems whereby they throw their support behind one of the conservative Dems to become speaker. In exchange, Republicans and conservative Dems share committee chairs and essentially govern as one party until the next election.
When a citizen in the U.S. of A.,
do as special interest dictates, via Washington!
Remember, speaker is voted on by the entire house. We only need 12 democrats to vote with a unified republican vote and Boren could be speaker.
I'm not sure though if that would effect who gets majority positions on committees, I don't think that's a SPEAKER job, that's a majority leader job, which I presume would still be Pelosi if she didn't get speaker.
BTW, they could also put someone at Speaker that is NOT a member of the house.
You hit on the silver lining. Pelosi and the liberal kooks cannot help themselves, they've been salivating over this, and they are not going to give up their hold on the Democratic Party without a fight. Even better than one-party GOP rule, is to once and for all, removing the hold that the left wingnuts have had on the Democratic party for the past 35+ years.
I totally agree with your assessment and mentioned this a day or two ago...at least the fact that Pelosi as speaker is NOT a done deal. Pelosi is awfully volatile and divisive. I don't think her own party can trust her.
I'm telling you, you are going to now see President Bush in his true element, he is going to do everything he can to create that wedge.
I don't think the speakership governs majority/minority status. I could be wrong. I think majority/minority is already set by the caucus, unless democrats actually vote with the CAUCUS of the other party on the organizational rules, and I can't imagine the democrats would ORGANIZE with the republicans.
It's a pipe dream, but there's no reason why Pelosi should automatically get to be speaker -- Livingston was next in line for speaker, and he was knocked off by a minor personal scandal.
But Bush already played kissy-face with Pelosi.....
Please. You don't think President Bush has scruples of his own? Give it time, wait and see.
Assuming Nancy gives him back his 'nads...
It's going to be fun trying to watch the Rats handle their new big tent.
That would be sweet to see.
Once upon a time, I used to be a Democrat - and for a living! Of course, I grew up as soon as I had to meet a payroll!
The Dems can really turn on each other with great enthusiasm.
It's a rather large "if," however.
Keep the faith. This is just getting started!
Viva conservatives!
LOL! It is funny how you all think that nancy pelosi is not going to be Speaker.
She will be Speaker and those of you that voted for these so-called "conservative new dems" will have buyers remorse.
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