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Four million Brits suffer from toilet phobia
The Daily Mail ^ | November 11, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:54:47 AM PST by MadIvan

At least four million Britons suffer from debilitating toilet phobias and most are too embarrassed to seek help, the National Phobics Society (NPS) said.

The NPS, which works with people affected by anxiety disorders, has classified the "secret" problem of toilet phobia as an anxiety condition in its own right and is launching a new campaign to help sufferers.

Toilet phobias range from a mild dislike of public loos to obsessions where sufferers refuse to leave their homes or even undergo potentially life-saving medical examinations.

The NPS said extreme sufferers are often unable to leave their homes, deny themselves fluids which can harm their kidneys, or take drugs to prevent any perceived or real "accidents."

The organisation argues the medical profession needs educating about toilet phobia in order to encourage sufferers to come forward and hopes its new campaign will go some way to tackling the issue.

The NPS believes that the stigma surrounding the phobia means that many people refuse to admit they have a problem.

"It is known as the 'secret' or 'silent' phobia because of its double whammy impact," said Nicky Lidbetter, manager of the NPS, which is launching the Toilet Phobia campaign at the Anxiety Disorders Conference in Manchester on Saturday.

"Few people will talk about having an anxiety disorder in the first place, but for them to admit they have a toilet-related phobia is rare because of the obvious embarrassment and humiliation of being laughed at or not being taken seriously."

"But, no matter how funny we might find it, it's certainly no laughing matter for almost seven per cent of the population who are reported to suffer from this condition."

The NPS has identified a correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) linked to a fear of contamination, Agoraphobia, Paruresis ("shy bladder" syndrome or fear of urinating in the company of others) and Parcopresis ("bashful bowel" syndrome, or the inability to defecate in public toilets).

They are collectively known as toilet-related phobias.

The problem can have serious implications for employers with absenteeism from work.

Many sufferers will not take a job if a toilet is located off a communal area and they can be observed going in or out, and will even create fictions of going to the photocopier or the staff kitchen rather than be seen going into the toilet, the NPS said.

Clinical psychologist and cognitive behaviour therapist, Professor Paul Salkovskis, said the attitude of society in general towards going to the toilet was part of the problem.

"Around the world we use a lot of humour and euphemism to describe what is a basic human function," he said.

"We say 'I'm going to the bathroom' or 'I'm going to powder my nose' because there is a taboo surrounding using the toilet."

Treatments include cognitive behaviour therapy, which helps people to break the cycle of faulty thinking, and hypnosis, which utilises techniques such as visualisation and guided imagery to bring about relaxation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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I find this article absolutely hilarious. Of course the one item that raises a particular question is if people are too shy to seek help for this problem, how do you know there are 4 million of them?

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/11/2006 4:54:48 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/11/2006 4:55:27 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
Toilet phobias range from a mild dislike of public loos to obsessions where sufferers refuse to leave their homes or even undergo potentially life-saving medical examinations.

Thanks for the laugh.

:)
3 posted on 11/11/2006 4:59:21 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: MadIvan

This is wild, maybe that is why I am a recluse, NOT.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 4:59:42 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: MadIvan

might have something to do with the fact that a lot of public urinals in the UK are big "let's all pee on the wall" devices


6 posted on 11/11/2006 5:00:30 AM PST by fzx12345 (This tagline has been left blank unintentionally.)
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To: MadIvan

This looks like a try for more funding for ongoing studies


7 posted on 11/11/2006 5:01:01 AM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: MadIvan

Public health problem.

Needs study.

Send money.


8 posted on 11/11/2006 5:01:12 AM PST by CPOSharky
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To: Mrs Ivan
It's still hilarious, my love.

Love, Ivan

9 posted on 11/11/2006 5:02:05 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: fzx12345; Mrs Ivan
Well the other problem is that one might run into George Michael in a public loo. I'd rather "hold it in" than go anywhere near a public loo that he was in.

Regards, Ivan

10 posted on 11/11/2006 5:03:26 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

It's better than the 25 million French who have bathing phobias...


11 posted on 11/11/2006 5:04:05 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: MadIvan
I find this article absolutely hilarious. Of course the one item that raises a particular question is if people are too shy to seek help for this problem, how do you know there are 4 million of them?

Obvious! They were counted on the hidden bathroom cams!!!!

12 posted on 11/11/2006 5:04:16 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: dirtboy

Or Italians, who'll pee anywhere and on everything. /s


13 posted on 11/11/2006 5:06:13 AM PST by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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To: MadIvan; All
Treatments include ... hypnosis, which utilises techniques such as visualisation

Am I the only one who finds this idea icky?

14 posted on 11/11/2006 5:06:58 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: eeriegeno
Obvious! They were counted on the hidden bathroom cams!!!!

Bathroom cams would also be a legitimate reason not to use a public loo. Given that danger plus George Michael - we may as well give up on having public toilets.

And forget airplane loos too - those are filled with holiday makers from Swansea who want to join the Mile High Club and got stuck to the point that they'll need a crowbar to remove them.

And of course pub loos have the problem of drunkards with poor aim.

No, it's no wonder people are toilet-phobic. It's common sense.

Regards, Ivan

15 posted on 11/11/2006 5:07:21 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Am I the only one who finds this idea icky?

Yes, I'm picturing a hypnotist saying, "Visualise squatting and spending a penny..."

Ugh, yes, that's icky.

Love, Ivan

16 posted on 11/11/2006 5:08:23 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: kinoxi

Could be they have a fear of those alligators with lasers on their heads getting them.


17 posted on 11/11/2006 5:11:33 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: indylindy
Or stingrays.

You never know.

Regards, Ivan

18 posted on 11/11/2006 5:12:18 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan; Clintonfatigued; JohnnyZ

Maybe they should get George Michael to do public service announcements to urge folks that public toilets are A-OK and fun for the whole family.

19 posted on 11/11/2006 5:12:27 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: MadIvan
Was that Agoraphbia or Algore-aphobia, the well documented phenomenon of needing to throw up at the mention of his existence?
20 posted on 11/11/2006 5:13:00 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: MadIvan

Argh, you beat me to the punch. ;-D


21 posted on 11/11/2006 5:13:16 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: indylindy
They don't need to worry about the gators, the crocs are the ones with the lasers.
22 posted on 11/11/2006 5:13:34 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: MadIvan
"Few people will talk about having an anxiety disorder in the first place, but for them to admit they have a toilet-related phobia is rare because of the obvious embarrassment and humiliation of being laughed at or not being taken seriously."

The ones who have the problem are probably laughing the loudest.

23 posted on 11/11/2006 5:14:10 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Beyond the crossdressing, fashion industry, bath houses in San Francisco, and Barbara Streisand's career still being viable - you know something is seriously wrong with the gay community by their affection for public toilets.

Regards, Ivan

24 posted on 11/11/2006 5:14:33 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
Jeezy Peezy... the Democrats next research project: How many people in America suffer from toilet phobia? How much can we squeeze out of the taxpayers for this dibilitating condition?

Thanks for the chuckle !!!

25 posted on 11/11/2006 5:14:35 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Was that Agoraphbia or Algore-aphobia, the well documented phenomenon of needing to throw up at the mention of his existence?

Dear, you know I suffer from Algoreaphobia violently. Fortunately I still have the bucket I keep by the bed for when I watch the BBC.

Love, Ivan

26 posted on 11/11/2006 5:15:54 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: kinoxi

Sorry you are right. I am getting a phobia over all these phobias A Phobia Phobia.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 5:15:59 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: MadIvan

Toilet Phobia...

Would this be called

toibia?

loobia?

Wham!bia?


28 posted on 11/11/2006 5:16:06 AM PST by bannie
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To: MadIvan

This comes from some long forgotten just discovered book of fairy tales, yes?


29 posted on 11/11/2006 5:16:33 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: MadIvan

How many mama's have said to their families to go before they leave the house?


30 posted on 11/11/2006 5:16:38 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: arthurus
I don't take it seriously. It's good for laughs, though.

Regards, Ivan

31 posted on 11/11/2006 5:17:35 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

"I know I just said this to you personally, but I think the question ought to be shared with a wider audience.

What happens when a person with a severe toilet-phobia sees a loo?

Do they sh!t themselves?"

No. Ya just hold it in until you can get home. Seriously, I have this "problem". My husband and I attended a 3 day outdoor music festival a while back and all they had were port-a-johns. No WAY was I going to use one for #2, so I held it for 3 days until we got to a hotel. My hubby refers to me as a poop camel now as I can hold anything for days if needed.

In my 13 years in the workforce before staying home with our son, never once did I go #2 at work. Ever.

I'm not proud of it, but I just can't go #2 in public. Interestingly enough, I've spoken with my girlfriends about this and none of them go #2 in public restrooms either, unless it is an absolute emergency. I think women are trained to hold til we get home (although not to the extreme to which I take it). My husband says men just go wherever there's a toilet - no shame, no embarrassment. Must be nice.

As I type this, my 7 month old is sitting in his highchair chomping Cheerios, and, you guessed it, going #2. Too funny.


32 posted on 11/11/2006 5:18:57 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: MadIvan

Our local gay males prefer the woods and shrubs of our local public parks. It's about the only time they ever go in bush in their life. ;-)


33 posted on 11/11/2006 5:23:54 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan: The Democrats could solve this problem if it wasn't for the mean Republicans.


34 posted on 11/11/2006 5:24:40 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: MadIvan
"Few people will talk about having an anxiety disorder in the first place, but for them to admit they have a toilet-related phobia is rare because of the obvious embarrassment and humiliation of being laughed at or not being taken seriously."

And justifiably so. Like many people, I had to take psychology courses. Whether people dust of their old textbooks, or rummage through the Encyclopaedia of Human Behavior, or the MMPI Casebook, or whatever, come on, has anyone ever heard of this, seriously?

I think the National Health made it up so they can announce cures and treatments for it.

It is so much less challenging and costly than treating Kidney Disease, for example.

Loos in the UK are just fine. They do not harbor monster hairy spiders or bogeymen.

More likely, it is a manifestation of the ubiquitous Big Brother Surviellance Cameras that did it, where CREEPY little wankers sit in a darkened room spying on their neighbors instead of dealing with violent criminals.

35 posted on 11/11/2006 5:25:17 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: popdonnelly
Well I expect the Democrats are probably experts on the topic - they're so full of s*** they know what to do with it.

Regards, Ivan

36 posted on 11/11/2006 5:26:42 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

I have a somewhat similar problem. The fews times I've been in the hospital in the last 20 yars and have had to use a bed pan to urinate, I've found it an absdolute devil to make anything flow and its all paychological.


37 posted on 11/11/2006 5:26:56 AM PST by libstripper (!!)
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To: fzx12345; MadIvan
might have something to do with the fact that a lot of public urinals in the UK are big "let's all pee on the wall" devices

Maybe they're afraid of meeting George Michael.

aka
Wakemeupbeforeyougogosis.

38 posted on 11/11/2006 5:27:24 AM PST by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Gorzaloon; Mrs Ivan
Loos in the UK are just fine. They do not harbor monster hairy spiders

Mrs Ivan has a very different view on that.

Regards, Ivan

39 posted on 11/11/2006 5:28:00 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: coop71

Way TMI


40 posted on 11/11/2006 5:28:00 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: MadIvan

Bwhahahahahahaha!

Thanks for the good laugh, MadIvan!

Cheers,

sl


41 posted on 11/11/2006 5:29:02 AM PST by saveliberty (We will win this war;even though the Dems are too self absorbed to understand it's a war on freedom)
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To: MadIvan

Our bathrooms are infested with horrible hairy spiders that like to lie in wait for me - I think they like the sound of me screaming.

For some reason, they avoid you.


42 posted on 11/11/2006 5:30:12 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: uglybiker
A lot of people associate public loos with George Michael - perhaps that's the problem. If George Michael was executed, we might be able to use the public loos without fear.

Regards, Ivan

43 posted on 11/11/2006 5:30:28 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
For some reason, they avoid you.

It's because I treat them like I would Islamic terrorists, dear. I smash them over the head with a blunt instrument, dump them in the loo, pour bleach on them, and flush them away.

Love, Ivan

44 posted on 11/11/2006 5:31:41 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
/cheap shot


45 posted on 11/11/2006 5:32:43 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: MadIvan

Can we suggest that method to the government, please?

BTW, this thread means that we are now officially very sad people.


46 posted on 11/11/2006 5:33:13 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Can we suggest that method to the government, please?

Well they will need to build a much larger loo. And one without George Michael.

BTW, this thread means that we are now officially very sad people.

In marketing speak, we're a very modern couple, my love.

Love, Ivan

47 posted on 11/11/2006 5:34:22 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
My recollection is that Babs has this obsession.

ML/NJ

48 posted on 11/11/2006 5:35:17 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: MadIvan

They also have a Muzzie problem. Dirty Loos = Islam. Thats my analysis.


49 posted on 11/11/2006 5:35:17 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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To: basil

Hey, I scaled it back before hitting Post. :)


50 posted on 11/11/2006 5:36:27 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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