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Democrats to 'revisit' law creating border fence
UPI ^ | November 10, 2006

Posted on 11/11/2006 5:32:37 AM PST by jamesrichards

Democrats to 'revisit' law creating border fence By Shaun Waterman UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL November 11, 2006 Democrats will look again at the legislation mandating 698 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border and might seek to scrap the plan altogether when they take control of Congress next year. Rep. Bennie Thompson, Mississippi Democrat, told reporters this week that he expected to "revisit" the issue when he becomes chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee in the 110th Congress. Mr. Thompson said the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) new border enforcement program, known as the Secure Border Initiative or SBI Net -- which includes monitors, cameras and other integrated surveillance systems -- is a viable alternative to fencing. "We might do away with it, or look at [integrating it into] SBI Net," he said. "A virtual fence rather than a real one."

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The hits just keep on coming. This election has altered this nation so much it is scary to even think about it.

Thanks Lou Dobbs, you have no idea the damage you have caused.

This is what you get for voting for Heath Schuler. If the dem chairmen are liberals they can never initiate funding.

This is what you get when gop districts vote for conservative dems.

1 posted on 11/11/2006 5:32:37 AM PST by jamesrichards
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To: jamesrichards

The damage will be extensive.


2 posted on 11/11/2006 5:34:55 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: jamesrichards

I hope all of the republicans who stayed home because of the border issue are happy now.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 5:35:25 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: jamesrichards

My suggestion a fence around DC nothing goes in or out for at least a year. Anyone who manages to survive the full year is released un-harmed.


4 posted on 11/11/2006 5:36:03 AM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: jamesrichards

My suggestion a fence around DC nothing goes in or out for at least a year. Anyone who manages to survive the full year is released un-harmed.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 5:36:37 AM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: jamesrichards

The Dem's can do more damage in 2 years than the GOP can fix in 10. Of course and oddly enough, this is primarily because Democrats have the guts to press their agenda forward. Republicans don't.

We need a new crop of congressmen.


6 posted on 11/11/2006 5:36:45 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I don't beleive in athiests. They just don't exist.)
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To: All

CNN WANT the damage.

THe November 7 election is being treated as a victory in a military battle for the arab street. Al Queda is rejoicing as if they have a military victory.

The democrat part IS the enemy, they need to be be treated as such.


7 posted on 11/11/2006 5:37:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: jamesrichards
Louie Dobbs is cooing about nancy pelosi.

PT Barnum was correct, there is a sucker born every minute, especially those who believed Louie Dobbs.

8 posted on 11/11/2006 5:37:13 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: GulfBreeze

And senators.


9 posted on 11/11/2006 5:37:53 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I don't beleive in athiests. They just don't exist.)
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To: Perdogg

Rep. Bennie Thompson, "A virtual politician". What a loser!

For those of you who wanted to send Mr Bush a message....THANKS/sarcasm ON


10 posted on 11/11/2006 5:38:39 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: jamesrichards

100% predictable and expected. With the Democrats in control, expect the worst.


11 posted on 11/11/2006 5:38:53 AM PST by Enosh
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To: jamesrichards
They won't be able to scrap the plan but they'll just withhold funding which does the same thing, it doesn't get built. Even if all the funding had been approved before the Democrats take over that could be repealed because budget issues are not subject to a filibuster. I wonder if Lou Dobbs will rag on the Rats like he did with the Republicans when the new Democrat congress does withhold funding?
12 posted on 11/11/2006 5:39:04 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: claptrap
My suggestion a fence around DC nothing goes in or out for at least a year. Anyone who manages to survive the full year is released un-harmed.

Hey, they have something like that with Anacostia already! LOL

On the subject of the 'Rats 'revisiting' the border fence legislation, they're not going to revisit it, they're not going to allow it to be built in the first place!

Where do you think they're going to get their newest constituents from, Fire Island?

Si' Habla 'Rat!
13 posted on 11/11/2006 5:39:37 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: GulfBreeze

.....The Dem's can do more damage in 2 years than the GOP can fix in 10. .....

Think Veto

Think SCOTUS

Think Pentagon


14 posted on 11/11/2006 5:39:46 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: jamesrichards
This is what you get when gop districts vote for conservative dems

Conservative DEMS is not only a contradiction but is also a smoke screen to convince RINOs to vote for them. Unfortunately it worked.

This is what you get for voting for Heath Schuler.

The same can be said for Connecticut RINOs voting for Socialist Joe LIEberman instead of their own candidate!

15 posted on 11/11/2006 5:40:46 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: jamesrichards

Texas has begun installing cameras along the Mexico-U.S. border. You can see what the cameras see using the Web. If you spot suspicious activity, such as drug smuggling or illegal crossings, you can report it. Your e-mail is sent to the appropriate law enforcement officials. To sign up, click here.http://www.texasborderwatch.com/


16 posted on 11/11/2006 5:43:08 AM PST by Gone_Postal (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..right next to the mashed potatoes)
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To: jamesrichards

This is largely beside the point as the fence was never gonna get built anyway.

The fence was nothing more than a feel-good gesture.


17 posted on 11/11/2006 5:43:31 AM PST by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: claptrap
nothing goes in or out
Including tax money...
18 posted on 11/11/2006 5:45:49 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: jamesrichards

Why is it always the biggest shills for open borders and illegals who talk of this virtual fence? Maybe they know something, like that it doesn't work. Bush better not let them change the law.

Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?


19 posted on 11/11/2006 5:46:14 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: upchuck

The gop congress said they would fund it.

They had already appropriated 1.2 billion for initial lighting, vehicle barriers, sensors, fencing.


20 posted on 11/11/2006 5:46:30 AM PST by jamesrichards
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To: claptrap
My suggestion a fence around DC nothing goes in or out for at least a year.

I'd vote for this...but add that all communications be cut off.

21 posted on 11/11/2006 5:49:15 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: jamesrichards
The public overwhelmingly supported this bill. Having the democRATs demonstrate their anti-American agenda immediately is good for conservatives. We may have to make some noise, but this effort will easily be defeated, either by filibuster or veto. And the democRATs are showing their true colors, and they ain't red, white, and blue.
22 posted on 11/11/2006 5:50:12 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: jamesrichards

I predicted this... Was most of my posts to the stay at home conservative crowd and the ones that said mixed government may not be bad... Dems will be sure to secure their LATINO voting block for generations...


23 posted on 11/11/2006 5:50:12 AM PST by tomnbeverly ("Harsh criticism is not a plan for victory. Second guessing is not a strategy.")
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To: upchuck

Paraphrasing T. Jefferson: "If a nation expects to be borderless and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."


24 posted on 11/11/2006 5:50:38 AM PST by Socratic
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To: jamesrichards

The fence law will be changed to a "border voter registration booths" law lol!


25 posted on 11/11/2006 5:51:11 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: jamesrichards
This is what George Bush wanted. He has gone over to the dark side because of this immigration issue. I truly believe that a deal has been made with the dems. Certain congressmen had their money cut off before the election. A house majority was Bush's desire. What happened to Curt Weldon was a disgrace. Remember what Tony Snow said. Now we finally have a congress we can work with on immigration.
26 posted on 11/11/2006 5:53:16 AM PST by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: Gone_Postal

Unfortunately, whoever we send the e-mail to is probably picking their nose or reading magazines. How frustrating. Will we also get to see the border patrol get these guys and send them back across the border?


27 posted on 11/11/2006 5:54:13 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: jamesrichards
Thanks Lou Dobbs, you have no idea the damage you have caused.

Look again. It won't be Lou Dobbs who will be signing any open borders/amnesty legislation into law. It will be George W. Bush who will be doing this damage.
28 posted on 11/11/2006 5:54:34 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: jamesrichards
I hope all the voters who thought the Democrats would be better on border security learn of this. The big welfare state Democrats and the big business Republicans both don't want an effective border. Bush is eager to give voting rights to the illegals. I think there must be an agreement whereby the Democrats rule the roost and the "moderate" Republicans look out for big business and screw the taxpayer. That way, all the big government types -- Republican and Democrat -- get what they want.

If the conservatives can take over the Republican party, the open borders problem will be a big, winning issue in 2008. There will be enough time to undo the damage. If the party continues to be run by big business liberals, then after 2008 the problem will only get worse whoever is in charge. Soon the demographics will not allow the problem to be solved. 2008 is our last chance and it all depends on who will be running the Republican party.

29 posted on 11/11/2006 5:54:51 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: GulfBreeze

Pressing the agenda forward is easy done when the MSM is on your side.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 5:54:54 AM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: jamesrichards
and might seek to scrap the plan altogether

I'm shocked....... not.

31 posted on 11/11/2006 5:55:46 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: jamesrichards
The will build a ChunnelTrain under the Rio Grandee
32 posted on 11/11/2006 5:56:07 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: The_Victor

It needs funding and the libearl dem chairmen won't fund it.

My friends we no longer live in a democracy.

If we lived in a democracy lou dobbs would have been going after the dems non stop during the election how they wouldn't fund the fence. He would have had e-mail questions asking do you think these liberal amnesty chairmen are good for america.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 5:57:35 AM PST by jamesrichards
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To: tomnbeverly
Dems will be sure to secure their LATINO voting block for generations...

I wonder if this can be exploited to make inroads into the black vote. If the black vote could go from 90% Dem, 10% Rep to 80% Dem, 20% Rep, even that might make a difference.

34 posted on 11/11/2006 5:59:55 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Conservatives were in charge in the house and for that they got back stabbed by conservatives.

The turnout rate in conservative areas was way down in a lot of areas.

When you have a liberal east coast elite press that lies it makes the dems a powerhouse.


Anyone know if they can fund it in the lame duck session.

The big problem with the last election the gop wasn't prepared for losing. Everything should have been completed months ago.


35 posted on 11/11/2006 6:00:12 AM PST by jamesrichards
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To: jamesrichards

Both sides are courting the immigration vote.


36 posted on 11/11/2006 6:01:26 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
If the conservatives can take over the Republican party, the open borders problem will be a big, winning issue in 2008.

Correct and the open borders lobby is going to hate you for telling the truth.

Soon the demographics will not allow the problem to be solved. 2008 is our last chance and it all depends on who will be running the Republican party.

Correct again....you are on a roll. If illegals are granted rights and citizenship, America will be lost, and we may as well bow to Mexico City.

37 posted on 11/11/2006 6:01:44 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: GulfBreeze
The Dem's can do more damage in 2 years than the GOP can fix in 10.

Yeh, but you can bet that GW won't be able to find his veto pen for any of this.

Tuesday night, Tony Snow was on FoxNews, elated that they can now proceed with 'comprehensive immigration' [that's amnesty for those of you in Rio Linda].

Wednesday, at his presser, the only point where GW shows a smile and elated joy is when the reporter asks about 'comprehensive immigration' [that's amnesty for those of you in Rio Linda].

Bush has the Congress he wants to get his 'comprehensive immigration' [that's amnesty for those of you in Rio Linda] passed.


===

Someone posted to me shortly after the 04 elections that GW would drop his 'comprehensive immigration' [that's amnesty for those of you in Rio Linda] when it didn't get passed before 04. I responded that he wouldn't give up on it until January 20, 2009, if there was ANY way he could get it through.
38 posted on 11/11/2006 6:03:06 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: The_Victor
Doesn't matter.. MSM will shrill for the dems and this will be perceived by the public at large as a good thing.
39 posted on 11/11/2006 6:03:22 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: jamesrichards

Looks like that meeting with Calderone was a productive one for the OBL.


40 posted on 11/11/2006 6:03:50 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: jamesrichards

The dismantling of this country has started. Cancellation of border fencing, next comes amnesty which Jorje will sign, then comes the prosecution of the members of this administration. What will pay for the new entitlement programs for our 'new' citizens will be increased taxes on middle and upper-middle income. Ballistic missile defense will be defunded, as will the F-22, Joint Strike Fighter, and any new weapons system except those that shoot humane munitions (rubber bullets?).

Our traditional allies will be abandoned and new false alliances with Islamic countries will be formed. It just gets worse from here....


41 posted on 11/11/2006 6:05:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: upchuck
This is largely beside the point as the fence was never gonna get built anyway.

The fence was nothing more than a feel-good gesture

Then why are your heroes, nancy pelosi and co., going to withhold already passed funding, if it was such a feel good measure.

One good thing about this election is that DUmmie trolls are coming out of the closet.

42 posted on 11/11/2006 6:07:39 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
Pressing the agenda forward is easy done when the MSM is on your side.

Not really, not when you have both houses and the president. The only reason to worry about the media for them was reelection. All that they needed to do was put the right bills up and vote on them.

I deeply deeply admire George W Bush. But I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that he more than anyone else (including Democrats and MSM) is to blame. His softness on spending and immigration were at odds with the base. He should have led congress to do the right things and vowed to sign the bills when they came to his desk. He should have had more troops and gone after the terroists IN Iraq more aggressively. Our boys are like sitting ducks over there with poor rules of engagement. We need to be conducting CONSTANT and aggressive house to house searches for weapons. We ARE occupiers and I think that is fine. Until we act like that we are also targets. Why did we have to clear Faluja 2, 3 times. ENOUGH with this namby pamby soft shoe pedling of things. It's time the Republicans started getting the job done. I am a Republican and will die one. But I expect OTHER Republicans to act like it too.

43 posted on 11/11/2006 6:09:36 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I don't beleive in athiests. They just don't exist.)
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To: NapkinUser
"A virtual fence rather than a real one."

So I can pay virtual taxes with Monopoly money rather than real money?

44 posted on 11/11/2006 6:11:51 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: kinoxi
There are already 15-30 million in the country now. The damage has already been done. The damned government and good ole GWB should have done something 6 years ago, but GWB was too interested in making them all legal instead of making the government round the bums up and throw them out. This is from an article that I just read by George Putnam:

If George W. Bush had honored and fulfilled his oath of office, on Sept. 12, 2001, he would have immediately:

placed military troops on the Mexican border;

added 10,000 border patrol agents to guard against lawless crossings;

built a fence along the border (had he started then, it would be in place now!);

instructed border patrol agents to arrest, prosecute and jail employers of illegal aliens;

stop the massive abuse of Amendment 14 that allows millions of women to cross our borders and give birth to an illegal child for immediate welfare;

instructed Congress to bring him a bill that stopped massive migration from the Third World;

demanded Congress rework the 1965 Immigration Reform Act; and

stopped 20 million illegals from causing horrific havoc to our schools, medical systems, language, jobs, communities, and traffic with gangs, drugs, domestic abuse, rapes, welfare fraud, and a host of other calamities visited upon America.

Had Bush and Congress done their jobs, we would have "a day without illegal aliens":

We wouldn't suffer 25 American deaths daily by illegal aliens who kill 13 of us on our own highways and another 12 deaths from gun and knife violence.

We wouldn't have 16,000 new cases of tuberculosis, 7,000 cases of leprosy, countless thousands of cases of hepatitis, dengue fever, Chagas disease, and all the new AIDS cases.

We wouldn't be paying $2 billion annually for "anchor babies."

American workers would be paid a living wage.

We wouldn't have 618,000 convicted felons in our prisons at an annual cost of $1.6 billion.

We wouldn't have thousands of illegals committing car thefts, insurance fraud, driving while drunk and ID theft.

We wouldn't have 11,000 MS-13 gang members operating in 33 states, distributing $100 billion in drugs to our children.

We wouldn't have $60 billion in cash transferred out of our country annually.

We wouldn't have Muslim terrorists embedding themselves in our country.

Our schools could teach our kids in English and cause a 67 percent dropout rate in high schools.

We wouldn't have Mexican flags marched through our streets by disloyal and subversive illegal aliens.

Employers couldn't cheat, lie, steal, and hire illegals for obscene amounts of money.

Thousands of towns like Hazelton, Pa., wouldn't have to be making laws to protect its citizens.

All of this and more, had Mr. Bush and the Congress done their jobs and honored our U.S. Constitution and the rule of good old American law. It's all the difference between illegal and legal.

45 posted on 11/11/2006 6:13:06 AM PST by RetiredArmy (November 7, 2006: The day America screwed the US Military! Thanks USA.)
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To: TomGuy; Tony Snow

Tony, you owe us here at FR who have always been your supporters and well wishers in those darker times an explanation and clarification.

And it isn't even remotely nessessary to explain what Bush thinks.

We already have a handle on that one, thank you.
- Bill


46 posted on 11/11/2006 6:15:58 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: The_Victor

Bush veto an anti immigrant bill? LOL!!


47 posted on 11/11/2006 6:17:22 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Perdogg
I voted R on Tuesday, and I still feel like a chump. That fence was never going to be built anyway, and, in our heart of hearts, we all know it. It was never funded. It was a last-minute bone to try and get the base to turn out for the election. Even if the Republicans had held both Houses, the fence still wasn't going to be built.
48 posted on 11/11/2006 6:18:06 AM PST by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: GulfBreeze
I am a Republican and will die one. But I expect OTHER Republicans to act like it too

Hear, hear!

49 posted on 11/11/2006 6:19:58 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Uncle Vlad

I've worked so hard for so many of these bastards. Damn it.

Damn it, damn it, damn it.


50 posted on 11/11/2006 6:20:11 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I don't beleive in athiests. They just don't exist.)
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