Truman radio address explaining what is necessary to win in Korea (1950) [Sounds like Bush re Iraq]

Radio and Television Address on the Situation in Korea ^ | July 19, 1950 | Harry S. Truman

[syriacus]

We know that the cost of freedom is high. But we are determined to preserve our freedom--no matter what the cost.

I know that our people are willing to do their part to support our soldiers and sailors and airmen who are fighting in Korea. I know that our fighting men can count on each and every one of you.

Our country stands before the world as an example of how free men, under God, can build a community of neighbors, working together for the good of all.

That is the goal we seek not only for ourselves, but for all people. We believe that freedom and peace are essential if men are to live as our Creator intended us to live. It is this faith that has guided us in the past, and it is this faith that will fortify us in the stern days ahead

[syriacus]

the liberals had no problem with Korea because it was a U.N. operation,

Did the UN initiate the operation or did the US manipulate the UN to initiate the operation?

[syriacus]

One lesson American presidents should learn is that if you want to keep the citizenry behind you in a war, you have to keep showing progress.

Unfortunately, enemy body counts don't carry any weight, since the enemy is made up of "freedom fighters."

[jpsb]

And all those Chinesse troops that attacked in Korea, had been stationed on the Twiwan straights guarding against a possible invadsion by Chen-Ki-Sheck, but Truman wanting to appease the Chinesse sent the 7 fleet to the straights to insure Chen-Ki-Sheck did not invade. So the troops were free to go to Korea and fight. Truman was a terible president. MacAuthor didn't want war in main land China but he did wabt to attack Chinesse supply lines bringing supplies into China.

[jpsb]

7=7th

[HitmanLV]

That is the goal we seek not only for ourselves, but for all people. We believe that freedom and peace are essential if men are to live as our Creator intended us to live. It is this faith that has guided us in the past, and it is this faith that will fortify us in the stern days ahead

The problem is more and more people just don't believe it. A president with better communication skills would have helped keep them on message. Dubya spent 1/2 of 2005 and all of 2006 not making a particularly good or convincing case for anything.

Keep this in mind for election 2008.

[fortheDeclaration]

the liberals had no problem with Korea because it was a U.N. operation, Did the UN initiate the operation or did the US manipulate the UN to initiate the operation?

We took the lead, but it was under U.N. authority.

We were fortunate that the Soviets had walked out of the U.N. in protest and were not there to veto the actions.

[uncbob]

They may have failed to prevent it, but it was Kim Il-sung who caused it.

Nope

Acheson Truman's Sec of Statement made the statement that Formosa and Korea were not in our sphere of protection or some such words several months before the invasion

GREEN LIGHT

[syriacus]

We took the lead, but it was under U.N. authority. We were fortunate that the Soviets had walked out of the U.N. in protest and were not there to veto the actions.

Thank you for answering my question.

[Ole Okie]

It was Truman and his incompetent State department that caused the war to begin with

What war? That was explained by HST to be a United Nations police action. (:^)

My sister's husband was in the Army, and his group got all the way to the Chosen reservoir. Then the Chinese entered the police action (on the North Korean side).

As someone noted, it took Ike to end the police action (sort of).

[syriacus]

A president with better communication skills would have helped keep them on message.

Yes.

Clinton was comfortable with using empty platitudes or lying when he didn't want to share his thoughts about something in particular.

Bush is not at ease with vagueness or abstraction or dissembling. He is more down to earth.

The current fashion is for politicians to be glib, to have the verbal skills of a successful lawyer, to have a quick answer for everything.

I think Bush should say, "No comment," more often. He's allowed to do that, just as presidents prior to the Garrulous Bill Clinton have done. I noticed, just today, that Harry Truman could say, "No comment," quite a bit.

Bush is not dumb. He can see the big picture, think through problems, and plan well into the future.

I think he is a visual thinker who is aware of too many things when he talks. The result is that he combines the different ways of looking at things into one sentence which is disjointed to listeners who are verbal thinkers , rather than visual thinkers.

Bill Clinton, media star, was a hard act to follow.

Whoever follows Bush will have a much easier time.

[Griddlee]

"his group got all the way to the Chosen Reservoir"

He must have been in the ill-fated 31st RCT on the east side of Chosin which was destroyed in 5 days.

Only 385 doggies out of 3000 escaped to the 1st Marine perimeter where Chesty Puller threatened to shoot them if they withdrew from their assigned positions.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Uh, no. I am well aware of the statement. The US ambassador to Iraq made a similarly poorly worded statement to Iraq prior to the first Gulf War. In both cases, the statements could have been ignored. Instead, both North Korea and Iraq instigated hostilities by invading another country. THEY started the wars.

[uncbob]

In both cases, the statements could have been ignored.

What makes you think they would have been ignored

[BurbankKarl]

we never won Korea

[SoCal Pubbie]

Uh, I wrote could, not would. If you want to blame wars on those who only speak words, rather than drop bombs, well, I guess you're the type that blames the woman for getting raped because she got drunk in a bar in a bad neighborhood.

[syriacus]

We never won Korea

I remember being disappointed when I learned that fact in 8th grade. It was a shocker.

Yet, even without a win, 50 years later, millions of South Koreans are still free.

[syriacus]

My bumper sticker---

South Korea is free because
30,000 troops died in 3 years
under Truman

[uncbob]

Yeah and the French and British before WWII appeasing Hitler had nothing to do with WWII