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Republicans Forgot Reagan's Message
Human Events ^ | November.10, 2006 | Marc Rotterman

Posted on 11/11/2006 2:42:16 PM PST by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man; FreeReign

Thanks for the compilation to FreeReign:


Republican Incumbents Who Lost in the House:

Jim Ryun (KS) - ACU rating 98
J.D. Hayworth (AZ) - ACU rating 98
Richard Pombo (CA) - ACU rating 97
Chris Chocola (IN) - ACU rating 95
Gil Gutknecht (MN) - ACU rating 94
Charles Taylor (NC) - ACU rating 92
Mike Sodrel (IN) - ACU rating 92
Melissa Hart (PA) - ACU rating 91
John Hostettler (IN) - ACU rating 90
Don Sherwood (PA) - ACU rating 87
Anne Northup (KY) - ACU rating 86
Clay Shaw (NC) ACU rating 82
John Sweeney (NY) ACU rating 77
Jeb Bradley (NH) ACU rating 71
Charles Bass (NH) ACU rating 71
Curt Weldon (PA) ACU rating 70
Sue Kelly (NY) ACU rating 65
Mike Fitzpatrick (PA) ACU rating 60
Nancy Johnson (CT) ACU rating 47
Jim Leach (IA) ACU rating 43



Vacated Republican seats lost

DeLay (TX) ACU rating 95
Beuprez (COL) ACU rating 93
Green (WI) ACU rating 88
Nussle (IA) ACU rating 86
Ney (OH) ACU rating 86
Foley (FLA) ACU rating 78
Koly (AZ) ACU rating 74
Boelert (NY) ACU rating 40


Democrat Incumbent seats lost

None.


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Republican Incumbents Who Lost in the Senate:

Burns (MT) - ACU rating 91
Allen (VA) - ACU rating 92
Santorum (PA) - ACU rating 88
Talent (MO) - ACU rating 93
DeWine (OH) - ACU rating 80
Chafee (RI) - ACU rating 37


Democrat Incumbent seats lost

None.


21 posted on 11/11/2006 3:56:41 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Tamzee
>>>>Sorry, not conservative enough for the folks here, Reagan and Gingrich .... Too pragmatic, and that is just "selling out" and "no principles", ya know.

I see no ~sarcasm~ references in your post, so you must be serious. I'd have to disagree with you. Most FReepers give Newt Gingrich high marks in recent FR poll questions on candidate support for 2008. Newt's Contract With America was a stroke of political genius.

And what Reagan did as Governor of California was trumped by what he accomplished as POTUS. The abortion bill Reagan signed into law as Governor was limited to rape, incest and the health/life of the mother, or about 5% of all abortions. Reagan never supported abortion on demand as a birth control option.

Reagan didn't support open borders. Reagan said: "A nation without borders is not a nation." Reagan did sign into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegals. It specified prosecution and punishment for employers who hired illegals. If that law was enforced, the IRCA of 1986 would have turned out to be what it was meant to be, a one time amnesty deal. Instead, the Feds lack of enforcement led to a ongoing series of liberal immigration policies under Bush41, Clinton and Bush43, that has led to the 10-15 million illegals we have living in the US today.

I think the Reagan agenda from 1976,1980 and 1984 would be embraced by cosnervatives today. Just like it was back then. Strong defense, tax reform, limiting the govts welfare state and support for pro-life issues still stand out in the minds of conservatives. And having made an error in judgment on immigration refrom in 1986, I seriously doubt Reagan would make that same mistake again.

22 posted on 11/11/2006 4:02:04 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: onyx

What the pubbies have to do is nominate Tom Cruise for president. (Get with it pubbies!) That would blast away the pathetic Michael Moore standard bearer of the donkey party. They might have to enlist Babs (over Lurch) for president.


23 posted on 11/11/2006 4:02:59 PM PST by GregoryFul (There's no truth in the New York Times)
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To: Reagan Man

"Sadly, it seems that the “Party of Reagan” has been hijacked by the neo-cons, the big government crowd and the pragmatists."

Reagan increased the size of government, grew the deficit spectacularly, raised taxes -- and signed off on amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

He also "cut and ran" from Beirut.

He had bigger fish to fry, which he did -- which made him the greatest President in generations.

The author is an uninformed buffoon.

Of course using the expression "neo-con" is a dead giveaway of buffoonery.


24 posted on 11/11/2006 4:04:19 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Reagan Man; Tamzee
Most FReepers give Newt Gingrich high marks in recent FR poll questions on candidate support for 2008.

Of course they did. He's DOA in a national election. You must have forgotten that MSM shredded him years ago. Sorry, but that is a fact.

25 posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:00 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: Reagan Man
Strong defense, tax reform, limiting the govts welfare state and support for pro-life issues still stand out in the minds of conservatives.

Yes, still works... it's why we voted "RINO" Bush in again in 2004, big successes in all those areas except couldn't pull off his Social Security reform... not enough American voters seem to want it.

26 posted on 11/11/2006 4:15:13 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: onyx

It's just hilarious seeing folks here rant about Bush's guest worker program and then demand we "get back to Reagan".... and then they rant about Medicare D and demand we "get back to Gingrich".

The doublespeak and memory hole are classic Orwellian.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 4:19:39 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Tamzee

No credit is given to the president who beat a sitting vice president and who won relection and kept the GOP congress for 6 years while being the subject of 365, 24/7 pounding by MSM in collusion with the democrats !

No credit whatsoever. He's a sell out! Everything is Bush's fault. They sound like democrats.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 4:25:02 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: Reagan Man

The "R" used to stand for Republican. In the 80s it stood for Reagan Conservative. Leading up to this election it stood for Reelection. The latter is best evidenced by the party's support of Lincoln Chaffe over a more conservative candidate in the Republican primary. When they get back to the principles that Reagan stood for, they will become a relevant party again. Until then they deserve election results like they just received


30 posted on 11/11/2006 4:25:09 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: umbagi
"Its violation helped defeat Goldwater in 1964, and assured our loss of both House and Senate in 2006."

Someone needs to tell Dick Army, Danforth, christine todd whitman, and the other moderates to stop ragging on the conservative base.

31 posted on 11/11/2006 4:26:35 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Reagan Man
This analysis makes no sense. Most of the Republican losses occurred in

1) Wealthy NE suburban and exurban districts where moderate Republicans and independents threw the GOP overboard due to social liberalism and opposition to the war in Iraq. This explains the losses in CT-02, CT-05, NH-01, NH-02, NY-19, NY-20, NY-24, PA-04, PA-07, PA-08 and PA-10. The GOP was wiped out in the North East. These losses were an explicit denunciation of social conservatism and the Iraq war. This thesis is further supported by the fact the GOP support among economically successful and wealthy males fell from 60% in 2004 to 46% in 2006.

2) Mid-Western (upper South) districts populated by Reagan Democrats who wanted more economically liberal policies (opposition to free trade etc.) and were opposed to the Iraq war. This explains the losses in IN-02, IN-08, IN-09, KY-03, NC-11 etc.

3) Districts with incumbents connected to scandals and corruption; FL-16 (Foley), AZ-05 (Hayworth), CA-11 (Pombo), TX-22.

These examples constitute a bulk Republican house losses. Frankly, I'm most concerned about the loss of Republican support among successful, wealthy upper-middle class males (small businessmen, professionals etc.) who have traditionally been the backbone of Republicanism and provided much of the grass roots funding for the party.

32 posted on 11/11/2006 4:29:06 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: Reagan Man
Newt and Dick Armey built the Contract With America fromv policy speeches given by Ronald Reagan.

Again, nobody wants to talk about the backlash against social conservatism, an issue which Armey brought up just before the election.

33 posted on 11/11/2006 4:30:49 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: Tamzee
J.D. Hayworth (AZ) - ACU rating 98

They are still counting about 100,000 votes in his district, so the fat lady hasn't sung...yet!

34 posted on 11/11/2006 4:34:04 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: monkeywrench
Someone needs to tell Dick Army, Danforth, christine todd whitman, and the other moderates to stop ragging on the conservative base.

The reason that social libertarians 'ragged on' the so-called conservative base was due to the fact that they are unhappy with the direction the GOP has taken. This unhappiness resulted in a truly massive loss for GOP in the North East.

35 posted on 11/11/2006 4:34:41 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: Aikonaa

I think a more telling reason may be the Reagan Democrats abandoned the GOP ... or should I say the GOP abandoned them.

Since you believe social conservatism was our downfall, I appreciate it if you would tell us what you think the GOP should stand for.


36 posted on 11/11/2006 4:36:20 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Tamzee
The doublespeak and memory hole are classic Orwellian.

Bump. Gutless wonders who cut and run when the going gets tough.

The election was solely about the war. The electorate blinked not Bush.

Now all the so called conservatives hoist their pet peeves as the reason for "Bush's downfall". Utter BS.

37 posted on 11/11/2006 4:37:21 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich

“We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” --Ronald Reagan, 1965

“Join me in a dream of a California whose government isn't characterized by political hacks and cronies and relatives--an administration that doesn't make its decisions based on political expediency but on moral truth. Together, let us find men to match our mountains.” --Ronald Reagan, 1966


38 posted on 11/11/2006 4:38:04 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Reagan Man
I agree with much but not all in the article. I support the war in Iraq, and would support other military intervention elsewhere. It has become clear in a post 9/11 world that when democracy is planted in other places throughout the world, not only would it be a stabilizing improvement for that country, and that area of the world, but America would be much safer.

I believe Ronald Reagan, btw, would also support the war in Iraq.

It will be wonderful to hear and see our leaders again set an agenda which would obtain a smaller government. Immigration both legal and illegal is way, way out of control and must be totally revamped.

A return to the conservatism of President Reagan and away from the so-called "compassionate conservatism" of President Bush is an absolute necessity, if Republicans as well as conservatives wish to regain power.

Thank you for the post, Reagan Man.

39 posted on 11/11/2006 4:51:39 PM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: RGSpincich
Now all the so called conservatives hoist their pet peeves as the reason for "Bush's downfall". Utter BS.

Yep. Thread after endlessly nauseating thread. They're terrified that folks will take a good look at everyone who lost and realize that their "all you have to do is run solid conservatives and they will win every time" is pure Fantasyland.

40 posted on 11/11/2006 4:53:05 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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