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Centrism is highly overrated
Sacramento Bee ^ | November 11, 2006 | Steve Weigand

Posted on 11/12/2006 1:10:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge

There have been a lot of warm and fuzzy self-congratulations since Tuesday's election about how California voters and candidates -- particularly Arnold Schwarzenegger -- have met in the middle of the political spectrum.

The cheery theory is that when the guv and the plucky guys and gals who make up the Legislature return to the front lines in January, they'll all sip cocoa together and make toasts to the wonders of "centrism" and lead the state to new heights.

This theory seems to be based on three things: 1. Schwarzenegger was easily re-elected as governor, even though he's a Reep in a Demo state in a Demo year. 2. He and the Demo-dominated Legislature got some stuff done this year through "bipartisan" cooperation. 3. The aforementioned teamed up to persuade voters to approve a bunch of bonds.

But before we all join hands and sing 10 or 12 verses of "Kumbaya," let's peer a little harder at reality.

Schwarzenegger won big, and he's a Reep. Whoop-de-do. Six of the last 10 California governors have been Republican. ...

Plus, let's face it, Skippy the Wonder Possum could have whupped Phil Angelides.

It's true that through "bipartisan cooperation," the Legislature and governor enacted bills that raise the minimum wage, aim to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and make some prescription drugs cheaper for Californians without medical insurance.

That is if you define "bipartisan cooperation" as the governor cutting deals with Democratic lawmakers. And if you ignore the fact that of the 138 Republican legislative votes that could have been cast for those three bills, exactly six were.

Instead of a true centrist "bipartisan" core, what we had was a governor willing to bend to get re-elected, and a majority of Democrats willing to help him to further their own agendas. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: centrismsucks; deadarmadillos; gopwussyroadkill; middleoftheroadkill; moderates; rinos; yellowstripelosers

1 posted on 11/12/2006 1:10:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

contrast this to a Dan weintraub piece a couple days ago..

Daniel Weintraub: Schwarzenegger landslide is a win for centrism

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735585/posts


2 posted on 11/12/2006 1:10:43 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

Skippy the Wonder Possum was unavailable for comment at this time. He's planning a run for the Senate as a middle of the road candidate.


3 posted on 11/12/2006 1:12:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

..it remains to be seen whether the 2007 Schwarzenegger is going to be the 2006 "let's make a deal" version, or the 2005 "in your face, Legislature" version, or the 2004 "let's think outside the box" version. He says it will be 2006 revisited. Of course, he also said he wouldn't take special-interest contributions.

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Place your bets.


4 posted on 11/12/2006 1:13:21 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

When you deal with Satan, you loose every time.


5 posted on 11/12/2006 1:14:05 AM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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To: NormsRevenge
What's a moderate? Someone who's a fan of yellow stripes in the middle of the road and likes dead armadillos.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

6 posted on 11/12/2006 1:15:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

in the recent election, moderates were 'roadkill',, and deservedly so..


7 posted on 11/12/2006 1:16:38 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

Centrist or Moderate Republican means one who will embrace a liberal agenda, while still leaving an (R) beside his name.


8 posted on 11/12/2006 1:19:23 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yep. Almost all the GOP moderates were roadkill. The House GOP is even more conservative in the minority now that it no longer has to pay attention to RINOs like Chris Shays. The wings of the Senate GOP moderates have been clipped by the ouster of a couple of their number from office. Getting to the middle of the road only gets you killed. 2006 will be remembered as the Year Of The Dead GOP Armadillos.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

9 posted on 11/12/2006 1:19:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

Harhar.


10 posted on 11/12/2006 1:21:23 AM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: goldstategop; Torie; AntiGuv

So while the GOP is busy purging itself of moderates, the Democrats have just retaken Congress with the help of a number of anti-abortion anti-gun control an-illegal immigration candidates. They went from leftist purity and minority status to a more mixed caucus (but solidly controlled by hardcore leftists like Pelosi).

The GOP is being virtually wiped off the map in the Northeast and New England. Once Judd Gregg, Olympia Snow and Collins retires - those seats may well be gone for a generation.


11 posted on 11/12/2006 1:44:33 AM PST by Omega Man II
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To: everyone

Arnold 2.0 bites!


12 posted on 11/12/2006 2:06:04 AM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Omega Man II
That was an inevitable development, considering the Rockefeller liberals in the GOP had no real ideology behind them. They're being replaced by real liberals.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 11/12/2006 2:15:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
Skippy the Wonder Possum was unavailable for comment at this time. He's planning a run for the Senate as a middle of the road candidate.

Looks like Skippy's out of the running:

However, he still plans on voting next election.

14 posted on 11/12/2006 5:29:59 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: All

I think centrist or "moderate" is just left wing code for the ratchet effect.


When republicans lose it is a final repudiation of conservatism, or conservatism is dead. When republicans elect a RINO it is a evolution of enlightenment of moderation in the republicans to the left wing view.


When democrats lose in contrast, it is a minor setback. It is only a temporary maintaining of the status quo until such time as they can push further left. There is also the opposit when a DINO is elected. DINOs are only a temporary alliance with a conservative traitor who can be disposed immediatly upon a majority.

All the dinos who were just elected will not be put in any place they could become a problem.


15 posted on 11/12/2006 5:35:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge
Skippy the Wonder Possum could have whupped Phil Angelides.

But apparently not Steve Westly, go figure.

16 posted on 11/12/2006 7:02:35 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: goldstategop
2006 will be remembered as the Year Of The Dead GOP Armadillos.

Quote of the day!

17 posted on 11/12/2006 7:08:19 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: NormsRevenge
"Centricism is highly overrated."

It IS indeed!!

Nancee

18 posted on 11/12/2006 7:13:03 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Omega Man II
So while the GOP is busy purging itself of moderates, the Democrats have just retaken Congress with the help of a number of anti-abortion anti-gun control an-illegal immigration candidates. They went from leftist purity and minority status to a more mixed caucus (but solidly controlled by hardcore leftists like Pelosi).

The GOP is being virtually wiped off the map in the Northeast and New England. Once Judd Gregg, Olympia Snow and Collins retires - those seats may well be gone for a generation.

Well stated, but don't expect them to pay attention, they are too busy celebrating our new ultra-exclusive teeny-tiny tent and handing Congress over to the hard left. It's a huge win for them in their ultra-exclusive minds ...

19 posted on 11/12/2006 8:13:45 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Lock-step, conservative resolve will hopefully be the California, Republican legislator's natural behavior.

Deceit, liberal agendas, capitulation of party platforms and fraternizing with traditional adversaries will probably be the natural behavior of California, Republican, statewide office holders.

20 posted on 11/12/2006 8:21:50 AM PST by Amerigomag (Don't blame me. I don't vote for liberals.)
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To: dirtboy

Thanks, I knew that one was coming. ;-)


21 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

Evil can be more or less understood. It is the 'man in the middle' whose moral depravity few of seem to understand. It is the 'fence-sitter' who ultimately serves to sanction evil by striving to effect compromise between good and evil.

You don't have to look far to see the consequences of 'moderation'.


22 posted on 11/12/2006 9:34:19 AM PST by Noumenon (Liberals: America's domestic enemies. Treat them as such. With extreme predjudice.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Anybody remember that Bible quote about "spitting out that which is neither hot nor cold"?


23 posted on 11/12/2006 9:37:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I believe they are called 'lukewarms' ..


24 posted on 11/12/2006 10:08:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

Centerism is not defined as pandering to leftism.


25 posted on 11/12/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by omega4179 (Stop McCain/Giuliani 08)
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To: bmwcyle
When you deal with Satan, you loose every time.

Who are you implying dealt with Satan? Governor Arnie? In 2010, Senator Arnie? Or is it the ilk who loost? I wouldn't say the ilk lost, after all the demonratz had an overwhelming victory. The ilk certainly are disappointed they didn't get enough people to vote against Arnie in order to get their Philthy ilk scum in office, but they'll continue by trying to thwart the governor as he tries to hold the line against a socialist demonrat legislature,

26 posted on 11/12/2006 11:13:24 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: EternalVigilance
... '6 will be remembered as the Year Of The Dead GOP Armadillos. ...

RL 6 in SD?

27 posted on 11/12/2006 11:20:33 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I know your deeds. I know you are neither hot nor cold. How I wish you were one or the other hot or cold! But because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spew you out of my mouth"" (Rev 3:15-16).
28 posted on 11/12/2006 11:29:35 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: 68 grunt

Losing RL 6 was a sad day for America, don't you think?

My candidates all bucked the trend and won, btw.


29 posted on 11/12/2006 12:04:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Yes it was, however that was not my insinuation. What I meant is that is wasn't only the center of the road which was slaughtered.

I'm glad you had some success with your candidates. I had none. 'Cept for Arnie, of course. There all I have left is the hope that without concern for re-election he can move back to the right.

30 posted on 11/12/2006 12:22:20 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Good luck with that.


31 posted on 11/12/2006 12:28:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, thanks pal ;)


32 posted on 11/12/2006 12:34:12 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: monkeywrench

Thank you!


33 posted on 11/12/2006 12:54:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance
My candidates all bucked the trend and won, btw.

And who were those candidates, again?

34 posted on 11/12/2006 1:18:28 PM PST by Professor Kill
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To: dirtboy

Skippy could be our first dead swing-voter. Looks like he turned left this time. Suicidal.


35 posted on 11/12/2006 2:55:57 PM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: NormsRevenge
That is if you define "bipartisan cooperation" as the governor cutting deals with Democratic lawmakers. And if you ignore the fact that of the 138 Republican legislative votes that could have been cast for those three bills, exactly six were.

Wiegand nails it. We don't have "bipartisanship," we have a Governor who has aligned with democrats. Exactly ZERO Republican legislators voted for his Global Warming bill (AB 32), yet that doesn't stop them from touting it as some kind of Centrist accomplishment. Centrism is a sham, imo.

SF Chronicle, November 9, 2006

But [Assembly Speaker Fabian] Núñez said Wednesday he is convinced that Schwarzenegger has become a true supporter of Democratic goals. "We certainly cannot apologize for the progress that was made, because it was all on our terms," he said. "I think we did a good job in California of turning a Republican governor into a Democratic spokesperson."

36 posted on 11/12/2006 3:34:18 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: EternalVigilance

really - i wasn't aware of this stunning turn of events in places like Arizona 8 and Utah 3... or was I?


37 posted on 11/14/2006 7:24:36 AM PST by PDR
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To: PDR

Your ignorance causes you to err. I had nothing to do with those races.

My candidates were all in a state in which we won every single major race. We unified the GOP, stuck to our conservative guns, and now, for the first time since the 1920s, hold every statewide and federal office.

The Dems and their water carriers in the Dem Media made a strong bid, as they did practically everywhere across America, but we completely beat them down and beat them back. No matter how hard they lied, we told the truth harder and better.

Don't let your bias' cloud your vision, PDR.


38 posted on 11/14/2006 8:01:40 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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