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1 posted on 11/12/2006 8:01:50 AM PST by rhema
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2 posted on 11/12/2006 8:04:38 AM PST by merry10
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Thank you for the post.

Many forget that after Iraq was invaded under the watchful eye of the embedded media, Rummy was considered a rockstar, and some wanted him to be considered for the Presidency.

Rummy's only crime was to be the smartest guy in the room.
3 posted on 11/12/2006 8:06:17 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Being a Liberal is just a coping mechanism for low self esteem and/or bad parenting.)
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Don Rumsfeld goes the bum's rush because he sought to transform the U.S military into a post-Cold War institution. Actually a small force did a magnificient in Iraq. We accomplished in three weeks of the war with a force less than a third the size we deployed in Desert Storm. The Democrats opposed that war too just like they opposed Operation Iraqi Freedom. The war's aftermath is not Rumsfeld's fault. We had to strike a balance between doing too much and doing too little. None of Rumsfeld's critics have ever stated how they would have done things there differently. I think in retrospect, Rumsfeld fell because he was just too honest. Its not a quality that commands much respect in contemporary Washington.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 11/12/2006 8:10:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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5 posted on 11/12/2006 8:12:51 AM PST by clyde asbury (It's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around.)
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The Donald Rumsfeld I know isn't the one you know

All this crap about Rumsfeld "not listening to his Generals" is BS. Rumsfeld is a very intelligent man doing what he thinks is right. It's his job. What the press means is that he doesn't succumb to the opinions of some of the Generals who think like liberals do. That is my opinion. Rumsfeld is like Bolton. mischaracterized and disrespected for doing his job.

6 posted on 11/12/2006 8:13:01 AM PST by SteamShovel
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History will remember him well, long after we've forgotten his poll driven critics. He seems to be a lot like Churchill in that he did what needed to be done and then was discarded when the politics of the moment changed.


7 posted on 11/12/2006 8:14:49 AM PST by GBA (God Bless America!)
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Something I recall George Will saying when Don Rumsfeld became Sec. Def. (I paraphrase) Don Rumsfeld is Washington's worst nightmare, a 70 year old rich man who's not looking for the next job.

He will be missed, but I've a sneaking suspection that we've not heard the last of Rummy.
9 posted on 11/12/2006 8:18:32 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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This is a great article from someone who knew the great man..I think the whole country should read this..what an amazing man..
11 posted on 11/12/2006 8:22:47 AM PST by Beth528
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Superb article. Thanks for sharing it.

Rumsfeld's fierce intelligence and intellectual honesty could be seen right away during his "rock star" press briefings for the war in Afghanistan.

The only reason he was trashed by the press was because he was right, everyone knew he was right, and as a credit to our military and our nation, this man was a very real threat to liberalism.

Can you imagine having him as a dad or uncle? How great would THAT be?!


12 posted on 11/12/2006 8:22:53 AM PST by Silly (still being silly)
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The best and brightest leaders in government are always beat on and driven out. It seems they (the best) make the majority of incompetents look even more incompetent.

The State dept. for example is nothing buy rotting OLD wood. S.D. has probably not had a new idea since 1901 and would die of heart failure if someone suggested another course like "tell it like it is"!
13 posted on 11/12/2006 8:23:19 AM PST by Tannerone (FEED ALL TERRORIST LIVE AND OTHERWISE TO STARVED HOGS)
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I have finished reading "Cobra II". It does not paint a favorable picture. However, its omissions are quite apparent.

The Zinni plan, later put forward (not pushed) by Shinsheki was for over 400,000. No mention of post-Iraq appears. No mention of securing the countless WMD sites appear. No mention of sectarian violence and revenge killings appear.

Just 400,000 to overrun Iraq. Why? WMD. How many were they forecasting to die? I don't recall them reporting but I would guess 10-15% or between 40,000-60,000. Then one needs the cemetary troops and logistics to evacuate the wounded and dead. And, they still need the logistics to prosecute the conflict.

Rumsfeld did it with a lot less. And there were the same oversights WRT aftermath as at any previous sanctimonious time. Cobra II points out that Rumsfeld and Franks overlooked the Saddam Fedayeen, who turned out to be the most tenacious fighters (according to the book).

Until we overthrew Baghdad, no one could know how the various factions would react. Many would have thought the regulars would have dispensed with the Foreign fighters.

And of course, Bremer, by disbanding all units and officials did not help matters. If any blemish is to be found on Rumsfeld record, it would be the Bremer authority (imo - I thought Bremer was a Colin Powell plant).
17 posted on 11/12/2006 8:38:27 AM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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Only thing Rummy missed is that ANY democrat military officer is a security risk..
If they had any sense they wouldn't even be a democrat...
18 posted on 11/12/2006 8:41:40 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperboles)
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This is a great article. The writer presents the Donald Rumsfeld I saw on the News, and the Donald Rumsfeld I hoped was working for our country. It's good to know that my perception of Donald Rumsfeld was right. He is a good man.

19 posted on 11/12/2006 8:49:01 AM PST by bd476
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[...December 2002, Haynes, brought Rumsfeld news that (snip) questioned the legality of the additional (interrogation) techniques. Rumsfeld (snip) in short order directed Haynes to revoke the authority for the new techniques. ... the cruel and sexually bizarre behavior at Abu Ghraib occurred many months later...]

The media will ignore this.

Great Post!


20 posted on 11/12/2006 8:50:19 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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No wonder the dems are afraid of him. He is natural leader and thinker.


23 posted on 11/12/2006 8:55:31 AM PST by freekitty
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You are soooooooo right "rhema"!!

But for me, all I did was listen to him via the TV...he makes sinse, is clearly in possession of a good mind, and is "...a gentleman and a scholar..."...articulate...wise...the list goes on and on. I think so many people have lost the ability to think for THEMSELVES. It is hard NOT to see what a great man he is.

Thanks!!!

Nancee

24 posted on 11/12/2006 8:57:15 AM PST by Nancee
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Very well written. Nice summary. And this is the view I always had of Rummy.


25 posted on 11/12/2006 8:57:56 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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26 posted on 11/12/2006 8:59:42 AM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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I agree that Rumsfelds departure is a sad event but in politics 5 years is a lifetime ....we should rejoice he was able to accomplish what he did


27 posted on 11/12/2006 8:59:52 AM PST by woofie (If not this war then which one?)
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the Rumsfeld caricature

Interesting tactic of the left. They create a caricature of someone, react to that caricature as though it were the real person, and before long, most Americans believe the caricature more than their own eyes and ears. In the MSM, and probably to most Americans, President Bush IS the caricature created by the left.
28 posted on 11/12/2006 9:00:26 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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