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Murder spree in Tijuana after US authorities detain suspected drug kingpin
Fox News "Weekend Live" | Nov 12, 2006 | Adam Housley

Posted on 11/12/2006 10:43:39 AM PST by John Jorsett

A murder spree began in Tijuana, Mexico shortly after American authorities detained suspected drug kingpin Francisco Javier Arellano Félix last August. In September, 44 people were killed, including 5 police officers. Police say the killings are the result of internal strife within the drug cartels, as those in the organizations kill anyone in their way and fight for the power that was vacated upon Arellano Félix's arrest. The killings dropped a bit in October but have since intensified with 11 homicides in the first week of November. The violence has prompted the city's Secretary of Public Security, Luis Javier Algorri Franco, to request that the Mexican army be put on the streets to help make the city safer. He says the army has the large caliber weapons, automatic weapons, and training capable of confronting the violent drug gangs.

8 police officers are dead since September. The mayor of Tijuana says that his streets are still safe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: addicted; aliens; drugcartels; drugwars; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; leroyhablaespanol; mexico; tijuana; wod; wodlist

1 posted on 11/12/2006 10:43:40 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

Attention: The White House

And this is what you want to open our country up to, by destroying the border between Mexico and the U.S. -- just beautiful. Ah yes, compassionate conservatism and the North American Union....only in your worst nightmares.


2 posted on 11/12/2006 10:45:38 AM PST by EagleUSA (T)
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To: John Jorsett

Not another WOD thread.


3 posted on 11/12/2006 10:47:42 AM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: John Jorsett

In Mexico the tail is wagging the dog. The criminals are running the country.


4 posted on 11/12/2006 10:48:35 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: John Jorsett

This doesn't even include the huge number of kidnappings that are going on in TJ right now. If you're middle class, you're a target. They've even started "express" kidnappings where they snatch you off the street and drive you around to ATMs to get cash to hand over to them. A lot of Mexicans who have money are bugging out and heading for safer regions of Mexico or for the US (in some areas of which, ironically, the gang's reach is so pervasive that they can be threatened here as well).


5 posted on 11/12/2006 10:49:07 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett
We're just making them MAD. This will undoubtedly help recruit new drug traffickers.
6 posted on 11/12/2006 10:49:07 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: John Jorsett

7 posted on 11/12/2006 10:49:13 AM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad on The Red Cross.)
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To: Seruzawa

WOD?


8 posted on 11/12/2006 10:49:51 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett

"WOD?"



war on drugs





as for the title, I guess we better let him go before more are killed, sure don't want to upset the criminals


9 posted on 11/12/2006 10:52:19 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: John Jorsett

interesting related cross reference here...

DRUG CARTELS TAKE OVER LOCAL POLITICS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1737316/posts


10 posted on 11/12/2006 10:57:38 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: John Jorsett
In September, 44 people were killed

Where do they think they are? Philly?

11 posted on 11/12/2006 11:08:36 AM PST by opinionator
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To: EagleUSA
"And this is what you want to open our country up to, by destroying the border between Mexico and the U.S. -- just beautiful. Ah yes, compassionate conservatism and the North American Union....only in your worst nightmares."

Do you really think anyone capable of making policy cares what you or I think or for our general welfare? If I was the head of a mega-billion dollar corporation I might get some consideration, otherwise forget it. They continually tell us our opinions matter but that's just to keep us quiet. They're busy importing a new, more docile, underclass who will gratefully work for a pittance without expecting all those pesky "rights" promised by the blood of a bunch of now irrelevant Dead White Men.
12 posted on 11/12/2006 11:17:44 AM PST by dljordan
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To: John Jorsett
That should put a nice dent in tourisem
13 posted on 11/12/2006 11:19:39 AM PST by cmsgop ( Try Miracle Grow, with New and Improved Uterus Growing Power, endorsed by Cindy Sheehan)
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To: dljordan

They're busy importing a new, more docile, underclass who will gratefully work for a pittance without expecting all those pesky "rights" promised by the blood of a bunch of now irrelevant Dead White Men.
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Well put. It is much easier to control peasants than it is to control educated, aware, patriotic American citizens who will fight for freedom and their Constitution.


14 posted on 11/12/2006 11:29:10 AM PST by EagleUSA (T)
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To: sgtbono2002
Not really. Criminal organizations are like any other business -- except that they don't have any legitimate way to handle dispute resolution. And with the CEO "forced into retirement" you expect the board of directors is gonna fight over his successor.

Most of us who've spent time in Mexico who don't have any connection to the drug trade don't worry much about it. Tourists, for example, have absolutely nothing to worry about.

15 posted on 11/12/2006 11:35:43 AM PST by rpgdfmx
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To: EagleUSA
It is much easier to control peasants than it is to control educated, aware, patriotic American citizens who will fight for freedom and their Constitution.

And if those peasants can vote and create a majority, well, it no longer matters what the educated, aware, patriotic American citizens who will fight for freedom and their Constitution think now does it?

Hello Guest Voter Program.

16 posted on 11/12/2006 11:36:08 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: TLI

Hello Guest Voter Program.
----
Yes, it is all about power and control. Washington stopped being a government for and by the people a long time ago.


17 posted on 11/12/2006 11:40:09 AM PST by EagleUSA (T)
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To: EagleUSA
Just another reason why I think a civil war is coming our way.

Best get prepared.

18 posted on 11/12/2006 11:49:26 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: John Jorsett
The mayor of Tijuana says that his streets are still safe.

For who/what?

19 posted on 11/12/2006 12:05:26 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: John Jorsett

Any thing online about the Military being called in?


20 posted on 11/12/2006 12:25:42 PM PST by Ladycalif (Non Coward Republicans for Tan)
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To: Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; Blurblogger; ...

ping


21 posted on 11/12/2006 12:32:26 PM PST by Ladycalif (Non Coward Republicans for Tan)
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To: Ladycalif
Any thing online about the Military being called in?

Haven't seen anything yet.

22 posted on 11/12/2006 12:39:23 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett

As of Jan.,next year,passports will be required to come and go to Mexico.Guess I had better get my dental work done soon.I sure wont get one when the law is enacted.


23 posted on 11/12/2006 1:12:35 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: Ladycalif
The mayor of Tijuana says that his streets are still safe.

Any American going to that pit should have his/her head examined.

We need a HIGH WALL, a VERY HIGH WALL!

24 posted on 11/12/2006 1:55:22 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Ladycalif

Well, it's time to open the wallet and buy a Glock 9mm and a 12-guage. And a few boxes of ammunition. I can shoot. The border is only about 250 miles away from here. I know somebody nearby that has an SKS sniper rifle. That's also not a cheap weapon. You can't shoot today. The wind blows squirrels off the trees and little birds duck under the
limbs. Take a shower and walk around nude for 4 minutes. You won't find a single wet spot after that around here. Lol!


25 posted on 11/12/2006 2:06:49 PM PST by BobS
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To: John Jorsett
Oh, man! It's getting so a guy can't buy illegal fireworks and switch blades anymore without getting shot at. What has happened to the once safe and wholesome city of Tijuana?
26 posted on 11/12/2006 2:51:49 PM PST by Blue Collar Republican (This space for rent)
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To: John Jorsett

glad I don't visit down there anymore. Haven't been there since 1976.


27 posted on 11/12/2006 6:52:45 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Taylor42
Just another reason why I think a civil war is coming our way.

BLOAN

28 posted on 11/12/2006 10:48:03 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: John Jorsett

I remember many years ago when Mexican immigration officials would turn away and not let enter many Americans who had long hair and looked like hippies or possible drug users.
This ofcourse all changed when the US was able to curtail drug traffic through the Caribean corridor and forced this traffic inland into Mexico.
Although Mexico (as all countries)had its share of corrupt official in government. Before the drug trade moved, most government officials at least worked to create jobs and therby increase the funds in the treasury from which they could grab what they needed.
Today that is not necessary, the billions in drug money that go through Mexico make it easy for them to be bribed to look the other way. No actual public work is needed for them to enrich themselves. Ofcourse there are exceptions.
What really bugs me is that Most Americans so easily point their fingers at others and not themselves.
Who consumes the drugs? Americans. Who provide many of the weapons that enter into Mexico? (where owning a gun is illegal) Americans.
Why is there such incredible violence in Mexico. Drug cartels fighting for a piece of the American drug consumer proceeds.
Why are so many Mexican running in droves into the US?
There are no jobs in Mexico, too many politicians are busy collecting their drug bribes and don`t give a hoot about the well being of their people.
Compare the flow of illegals to the US in the period before Mexico became the highway for the drugs to the US!
Mexicans could actually support their families with their jobs and only the adventurous would go to the US.
Then the blame game, illegals use our medical services, illegals send their kids to our schools etc etc. But few dare to mention the billions of taxes that many of these illegals (YES BILLIONS)put into social security funds and will never be able to gain anything form these in older age. Same is true for MEDICRE. The social security people say that without the contribution of these illegals the fund would have collapsed long ago. Search the New York times article on this...
SO please before acusations overflow both ways lets follow the old and wise bible saying `` let he without sin throw the first stone`` AMEN...


29 posted on 11/14/2006 10:15:41 PM PST by looktwice
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To: TLI

Hello Guest Voter Program.
***I know this is a controversial parallel, but... that's what happened in South Africa. Apartheid was a half-hearted attempt at controlling millions of illegal aliens in that country. If there had been no illegal immigration problem, there would have been no Apartheid.


30 posted on 11/22/2006 5:02:45 PM PST by Kevmo (Charter member, "What Was My Login club")
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To: EagleUSA
Bush doesn't give a damn how many Americans will have to die to fulfill his vision of a borderless North America.
31 posted on 11/22/2006 5:05:16 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Kevmo
I know this is a controversial parallel, but... that's what happened in South Africa.

Nothing half hearted at all. It is bowing down to an invading hoard by being so pee-cee as to be afraid to enforce the law. It is cowering in the presence of evil such as SPL and ACLU. It is exactly what happened to Rhodesia and that traitor Jhummi Carter is holding a large portion of the blame for that and it is the ultimate fate of South Africa unless they throw off the shackles of pee-cee and adopt a common sense approach (shooting war) to the communist scum that utterly destroyed Rhodesia.

And my friends, it is EXACTLY where the United States of America is headed right now.

32 posted on 11/22/2006 5:16:33 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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