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Not a citizen? No problem. Illegal immigrants meet little resistance getting home loans
The Memphis Commercial Appeal ^ | 11/12/06 | Daniel Connolly

Posted on 11/12/2006 4:52:44 PM PST by Sybeck1

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To: Sybeck1

Thank you, gringo Jorge Boosh!


21 posted on 11/12/2006 5:40:42 PM PST by Prime Choice (The angel has spread its wings. The time has come for bitter things.)
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To: SpaceBar
"It is legal to enter into contractual agreements involving real property with individuals who's very presence in the US is in violation of the laws of residency."

Not to mention the fact that the illegals are using forged, SSN's and ID's on the contracts they are signing. There are about three known felonies in this one transaction alone the illegals are committing, as well as the conspiracy charges for the Real Estate Broker! Fraud, False ID, Forging the SSN is a Federal Felony, Obtaining property under false pretense is a felony on most States in the United States.

Why someone in this Country thinks they can look the other way while felonies are committed by illegal immigrants and get away with it, certainly do believe we are living in a parallel universe for sure!

Is it not a felony not to turn in an illegal immigrant to the INS, and is it not called "misimprisonment of a felony?"
22 posted on 11/12/2006 6:05:33 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN wounded and home recouping with my family!)
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To: paratrooper82
Is it not a felony not to turn in an illegal immigrant to the INS

If that were the case, then the entirety of the government of California would be behind bars.

Hmm...not a bad idea now that I think about it.

23 posted on 11/12/2006 6:29:47 PM PST by Prime Choice (The angel has spread its wings. The time has come for bitter things.)
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To: paratrooper82

Banks, including the Federal Reserve that ENCOURAGE illegal immigration by providing accounts and mortgages to illegals because it is 'profitable', are breaking our own Federal Immigration Laws and are subject to RICO prosecution. All it would take is one bank who refuses to follow this trend to file suit against the others. And just like the current RICO suits against employers of illegals, the OBLers are rushing to pass comprehensive reform that will make them legal, and give both the illegals and their employers amnesty to prevent the RICO suits.

"Another plaintiff that may be able to show injury is the competitor of a financial corporation that accepts the matricula consular or other foreign-issued identification card to open a bank account or engage in other financial services activity. By accepting the card in violation of the INA, the bank or other entity gains a competitive advantage similar to the defendant in Commercial Cleaning. The bank, for example, would unlawfully gain additional account holders, strengthening its competitive position by providing it with additional resources to invest in loans. This unlawful activity would injure competitor banks in a similar way that the plaintiff companies were injured in Commercial Cleaning. The law-abiding competitor banks would potentially lose loan customers because the bank acting unlawfully may be able to provide better loan terms or otherwise gain a competitive advantage due to its strengthened financial position.

Again, this would clearly injure the business capabilities of the competitors and give potential plaintiffs a valid claim under RICO against the offending entities. Knowing that they could be held criminally and civilly liable for such a practice, many businesses might reconsider the practice of accepting matricula consular cards in the future"

Some large U.S. financial corporations currently accept the matricula as primary or secondary ID for the purpose of opening bank accounts in the United States for illegal aliens. An illegal alien with a U.S. bank account, in which he or she may deposit illegally acquired funds, and out of which he or she may pay local rent, local utility bills, and send money abroad, is more likely to remain illegally in the United States. In other words, he or she is encouraged to remain illegally in the United States — such encouragement being a violation of Federal law.

When such a violation is done for the purpose of financial gain, as in the case of the financial corporations engaged in the practice, it is more than simply a violation of immigration law — it is racketeering. Also, those contemplating entering the United States illegally will be further encouraged to do so because of the added benefits they can obtain once they enter. Thus, it is reasonable to say that acceptance of the matricula is a violation of the INA and a predicate offense under RICO...............

With this predicate offense established, a bank that competes with the one accepting the card would only have to plead the other elements of a RICO claim — injury and causation — in order to survive a motion to dismiss and bring the case to trial. The plaintiff bank will likely be able to plead these elements. As mentioned in the discussion of the injury element above, the injury to the plaintiff bank would be lost market share and competitive disadvantage, leaving causation as the only remaining obstacle to receiving compensation for damages.

Under the "direct relation" test, the plaintiff will be able to prove causation. First, the plaintiff bank would be the direct victim of the defendant bank’s illegal activity, similar to the direct injury suffered by Commercial Cleaning at the hands of Colin Service Systems. Second, it will not be difficult to ascertain the damages attributable to the unlawful acceptance of the matricula. Regulations issued by the U.S. Treasury Department require banks to record the type of document used by an account applicant. Thus, the defendant would have records indicating how many accounts were issued on the basis of the matricula alone. Calculations, relatively simple for financial professionals, could then be made to determine the level of business the defendant obtained by its unlawful activity and the impact that that unlawfully gained business had on the market. Third, there is no risk of multiple liabilities due to the presence of second-tier plaintiffs. The plaintiff bank, a first-tier plaintiff, will likely be the only plaintiff with standing to sue since it is the only entity injured by the defendant. Though multiple banks may sue the defendant, all of these banks will be first-tier plaintiffs, so this last factor is not of any concern. Thus, banks accepting the matricula face the real possibility of RICO liability."

http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1103.html


24 posted on 11/12/2006 6:35:17 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: paratrooper82

It must feel great to go beyond the call of duty and risk your life and finally get home and some greedy S.O.B. treats you like dirt while he treats criminals like royalty. I guess when that happened, you really knew you were home again.


25 posted on 11/12/2006 6:55:21 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: EagleUSA

>>And it's about doing business with criminals.

Ah well, one man's criminal is another man's ambassador.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Arnall+Ameriquest+Inauguration&btnG=Search

Do I hear one million fity?

Going once. Going twice. Sold! to the gentleman from France.

Please pay the cashier.


26 posted on 11/12/2006 7:07:08 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: VxH

Ah well, one man's criminal is another man's ambassador.
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Well put -- that is how the libs and our "elitists" view the illegal Mexicans. Ambassadors of power from their vote. With them, it is not about money, it is about POWER AND CONTROL.


27 posted on 11/12/2006 7:25:29 PM PST by EagleUSA (T)
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To: Kimberly GG
Deriving an income from a "pattern" of Racketeering activity, a necessary element. An "entity" can consist of one person, and in order to meet another element requirement under RICO Title 18, Section 1963(a)(3) the predicate act(s) most effect interstate activity. A ream of typing paper purchased outside the State has sufficed to bring a RICO charge against a business.

Maybe it is time for the average American to start filing civil RICO suits, in which one could sue for treble damages. The hiring of illegals artificially keeps wages low, State and Federal taxes are not paid, and if they are, for whom? Since the illegal immigrant is using false SSN, and ID.

If it could be proved that the illegal immigrant is engaged in criminal activity here in our local towns and cities, RICO may be the way to go to force and end to this looking the other way while these illegals enter our Country and devour our precious resources.

Great post, sure gives me some good ideas! Personally, I have had all I am going to with this crap. Since the US Government does not seem to want to do its job, maybe we can force them too! Maybe after a couple million dollar judgments against them, they will be forced to do something about the problem, instead of opening the gates and letting them run wild all over America, and then claim, "we can't account for 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, million illegal immigrants," in fact they don't even know how many are here illegal.
28 posted on 11/12/2006 8:06:13 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN wounded and home recouping with my family!)
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To: Sybeck1

The answer is in. The purchase of homes by illegal aliens IS what is keeping the housing sector propped up, if not booming. If the government deports illegals and builds a fence to keep new ones out, the housing sector will collapse taking the rest of the economy with it. That is WHY the government has done little or nothing to solve this problem. It is also why many groups and the government will not allow muncipalities to make it illegal to hire or rent to illegals. Everything is tied to housing.


29 posted on 11/12/2006 8:14:27 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
What really hurts, is knowing that many of my fellow Soldiers won't be coming home, because they gave their lives to protect ours here at home, while these illegals who disrespect, violate the sovereignty and the laws of this great Nation, are pouring across our southern border of the United States of America, demanding Rights afforded only to Americans, and when they don't get those demanded Rights under our Nations Constitution, the illegals boldly march in the streets, proudly waving their Mexican flag, and giving each and every American and our dead comrades the middle finger! The illegals did not one thing to earn the Right to be here in America when they violated the laws of this great Country, and now, some liberal socialist democrat in the House and Senate will give them more Rights through a veiled amnesty program, than my fallen Soldiers in arms ever had>

The whole irresponsibility, negligence and out right malfeasance of this lack of border security makes me want to puke! I can't believe how out of touch our Representatives are with the majority of Americans!
30 posted on 11/12/2006 8:17:42 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN wounded and home recouping with my family!)
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To: Sybeck1

Eventually, the economy is going to turn, and there is going to be a LOT of unemployed illegals. The reason they can put $100,000 down is because they don't pay insurance of any kind, if you get hit by an illegal, I guarantee you they will have NO insurance and you will get stuck paying the damage (plus higher rates to cover their bad driving). They also get free health care.


31 posted on 11/12/2006 8:26:18 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Sybeck1

Wish I was in that area because I'd walk in and apply for the same lower rates that are extended to illegals. Then when I was turned down, I'd find the nearest lawyer for discrimination.

A friend of mine moved to CA from OK a few years ago, and I had to help her cash a check because she only had her social security number & car insurance. But if an illegal walks in with a Matricular Consular card and it's no problem!


32 posted on 11/12/2006 9:29:10 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support the Minutemen!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Uh, Kimberely, could you condense this into Reader's Digest format please?


33 posted on 11/12/2006 9:31:29 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support the Minutemen!)
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To: Kimberly GG

I worked for almost a year for Provident Bank of Maryland (at several Virginia branches), and we tellers were required to accept the Mexican Matricula Consular as a valid form of ID for check cashing.

Before New Year, I helped out at a Richmond branch, and we had some questionable folks coming in to cash payroll checks. One presented to me his check and a New York Driver's License that did not feel legitimate, so I asked for another form of ID. The man scowled at me and pulled out a Matricula Consular.

The business that my dad used to work for (he was the office manager) hired plenty of illegals. They banked with SunTrust Bank, which was doing brisk business cashing payroll checks.

Believe me, the banks (and now credit unions) do NOT care about your legal status so long as they can make money off you (without the Feds going after them).

Thank goodness I now work for a large military credit union (in their IT department). We don't have that many illegals coming to our branches :P


34 posted on 11/12/2006 9:34:30 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: CindyDawg

Maybe they could get a second job in the fields, being a gardner, tending the kids...oh, guess not, 'cuz they speak English. Gringos need not apply. BTW, there is a restaurant that uses the term gringo on their menu,even though it is a impolite term. Can you imagine having a "Wetback Burrito" on the menu? Didn't think so.


35 posted on 11/12/2006 9:35:26 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support the Minutemen! Take back America!)
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Gringa doesn't bother me. "weta"(ms?) does


36 posted on 11/12/2006 9:50:42 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: rabscuttle385
Whoever takes out these loans, needs to look at them carefully though. This house was tiny. It was plushed up but they wanted almost 100000. I wouldn't have paid more than 50. The notes were too low. I'm not sure how that worked, because the interest was high.
37 posted on 11/12/2006 9:54:05 PM PST by CindyDawg
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Well, whatever larger corporation is backing those loans is probably securitizing them and selling them off to investors, so if anyone takes a hit, it will be the investors.


38 posted on 11/12/2006 10:04:57 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: rabscuttle385

You know the old saying about if it sounds to good. My son graduates next month. They are just going to buy some land a build a house themselves as they go.


39 posted on 11/12/2006 10:08:26 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Yup...that's why we don't invest in mortgage-backed securities. :P


40 posted on 11/12/2006 10:28:32 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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