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School math books, nonsense, and the National Science Foundation
csun ^ | Sunday, November 12, 2006 | David Klein

Posted on 11/12/2006 8:18:39 PM PST by wintertime

Problem: Find the slope and y-intercept of the equation 10 = x – 2.5.

Solution: The equation 10 = x – 2.5 is a specific case of the equation y = x – 2.5, which has a slope of 1 and a y-intercept of –2.5.

This problem comes from a 7th grade math quiz that accompanies a widely used textbook series for grades 6 to 8 called Connected Mathematics Program or CMP.[1] The solution appears in the CMP Teacher’s Guide and is supported by a discussion of sample student work.

Richard Askey, a mathematician at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, reported, “I was told about this problem by a parent whose child took this quiz. The marking was exactly as in the text.”[2] Students instructed and graded in this way learn incorrect mathematics, and teachers who know better may be undermined by their less informed peers, armed with the “solution.” This example is far from the only failing of CMP. Among other shortcomings, there is no instruction on division of fractions in the entire three year CMP series, and the other parts of fraction arithmetic are treated poorly.[3]

Is CMP just an anomaly? Unfortunately not. CMP is only one of more than a dozen defective K-12 math programs funded by the National Science Foundation. More specifically, the NSF programs were created and distributed through grants from the Education and Human Resources (EHR) Division within the NSF. In contrast to the NSF’s admirable and important role in supporting fundamental scientific research, the EHR has caused, and continues to cause, damage to K-12 mathematics education.

At the elementary school level, one of the worst NSF funded programs is the widely used K-5 series TERC: Investigations in Number, Data, and Space.[4] The program relies heavily on calculators and does not include textbooks in the usual sense. Harvard mathematician Wilfried Schmid evaluated it and concluded that by the end of 5th grade, TERC students were roughly two years behind where they should be according to the California, Indiana, and Massachusetts state mathematics standards, the best state math standards in the U.S.[5] Schmid added, “The TERC authors are also opposed to the teaching of the traditional algorithms of arithmetic, such as long addition, subtraction with borrowing, and the usual pencil-and-paper methods of multiplication and division. Not only do they refuse to teach the algorithms, they make clear their preference not to have the students learn them outside of the classroom, either.”[6]

(snip) The root cause is money badly spent. The NSF and corporate foundations maintain a gravy train of education grants and awards that stifle competent mathematics education. Although it is conceivable that ongoing NSF grants for new editions of defective math programs, such as those I have described, will improve matters, that is a poor strategy. It amounts to throwing good money after bad. The most that one can realistically hope for is that the original NSF-funded math programs will eventually rise to the level of mediocrity.


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To: jude24

Good question. I'm sure there's a profound emotional linkage to any parent's decision.


21 posted on 11/12/2006 9:01:55 PM PST by Air Force Brat
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To: Air Force Brat
Don't be such a Snidely Whiplash! There are a lot of us homeschoolers out here who are trying to repair the damage done by crappy math teachers in our kids' early school years.

Homeschooling is not for everyone, but some kids truly thrive when set free from the stultifying air of the classroom.

22 posted on 11/12/2006 9:14:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: wintertime
My son was in a school district that used this very program. I volunteered countless hours in his classroom and saw first hand how this program worked.

While I understand the concept that not all children learn in the same way, and this program addresses that, it still breaks down to total frustration on the part of parents who can't help their children because they can't figure out what is going on.

Example: Long Division

We all learned how to do long division the same way, and you need to know the multiplication tables in order to do long division. Not with this program.

Imagine dividing 20 by 2. With knowledge of multiplication tables you could easily say the answer is 10. But, with this math program they asked the kids to "guess" how many times they think 2 can "go into" 20. If the child guesses two times, they have you write a 2 off to the side, then subtract 2 from 20. Now you have 18 with a 2 off to the side. Now, how many times do you think 2 will go into 18? The child guesses 2 again. So another 2 goes under the first two and you subtract another two from 18. So, by the end of the problem the child will have 10 twos along the side and will basically have spent 20 minutes on a problem that would have been easily seen if they had been taught the math tables. I'm not exaggerating on this, it was a nightmare. Another scenario had this lattice work looking grid but I couldn't even figure that one out! They also had something they called Spiralling, which meant they would touch on a subject once or twice then a few months later if they touched on it again it would be "slightly" familiar to the kids.

I homeschool now.

23 posted on 11/12/2006 9:15:42 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Remembering Beirut Vets 1983 American Embassy April 1983/Marine Headquarters Oct.1983)
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To: HungarianGypsy
My 12 year old is still doing pre-algebra and grumbling all the way about the Saxon books.

Before you go any further with Saxon, check out Harold Jacob's Elementary Algebra, for Alg. 1, Jacob's Geometry, and Foerster's Alg. and Trig. for Alg. II. SirKit has a BS in Math and a PhD in Statistics, and he's seen a LOT of math textbooks during our kids' school years. He liked the Saxon middle school books, but he really enjoyed working with our homeschooled younger two in the Jacobs and Foerster books.

24 posted on 11/12/2006 9:17:45 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Actually I am considering doing a lot of the Math web links we have. He was excited last year when he was playing a puzzle game and realized it was algebra. I'll probably also give him my Painless Algebra book and see how he does with that.


25 posted on 11/12/2006 9:21:04 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: jude24

I graduated in 2003 from TJHSST, a Virginia Governor's School for science and technology in Alexandria.

My math teachers used the books for homework problems and in some cases used textbooks custom developed by the math department. The computer science curriculum had its own textbook written in house.

My (conservative!) U.S. history teacher (famous for the sheer number of his students who would get 5's on the AP exam) never used our textbook.

So...it all depends on the school and the teacher.


26 posted on 11/12/2006 9:21:43 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I homeschool now.

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And I bet your child can divide 20 by 2.

If you could not figure out the grid, I doubt the teacher could either. Elementary school teachers have Math SAT score in the university basement.
27 posted on 11/12/2006 9:23:53 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: jude24

Oh, Saxon Math doesn't have any typographic errors at all, does it?

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In all my years using Saxon Math, I never found and error. This isn't surprising. Saxon Math has been around a long time, and their textbooks are not radically changed from year to year.


28 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:05 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: wintertime

Actually his teacher that year was wonderful, probably one of the best he ever had. She was as frustrated to have to teach that method as the kids were. Her attitude was that whatever method the kids used was fine. If they knew their tables, they could do the problems that way, if not, try one of the others. Unfortunately, some of the other teachers made the kids learn each method and they were more confused by that.


29 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:42 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Remembering Beirut Vets 1983 American Embassy April 1983/Marine Headquarters Oct.1983)
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To: cosine
I know a number of kids who have found the Saxon books to be excessively tedious and not really good at connecting the math to the real world.

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Are you a teacher or a tutor?

Saxon Math would likely be a terrible choice for tutoring.

Real World? Huh? The very best preparation for the "real world" of science and math is a very good foundation in math. Saxon Math excels in this.
30 posted on 11/12/2006 9:28:15 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: jude24
Horsecrap. There's still a lot of really good math teachers out there.
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Great for you, if your child wins the prize and gets a good math teacher for a year or two. Some kids are forever "winning" the lousy math teachers.
31 posted on 11/12/2006 9:29:37 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: SuziQ

Absolutely. Homeschooling is an excellent choice for many families. I'm not criticizing that. I am criticizing those who post unverifiable stories about a subject as if it is proof positive that their course is the right way to go.


32 posted on 11/12/2006 9:29:49 PM PST by Air Force Brat
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To: Air Force Brat
I am criticizing those who post unverifiable stories about a subject as if it is proof positive that their course is the right way to go.

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In post #1 my suggestion was to homeschool, or privately school. If you insist on keeping your child in government school, then teach them math yourself, hire tutors, or use a tutoring service such as Kumon or Sylvan.

This does not sound like "one way to go."

If your child remains in government school, and you teach or have them privately tutored, be prepared for the government school educrats to take credit for the high math scores.
33 posted on 11/12/2006 9:35:26 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: rabscuttle385
My (conservative!) U.S. history teacher (famous for the sheer number of his students who would get 5's on the AP exam) never used our textbook.

I'm assuming you mean the AP US History test? What textbook had been assigned, and what kind of materials did he use instead?

34 posted on 11/12/2006 9:39:10 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: wintertime

I'm sorry the public schools in your area are so poor.

Such was not the case in my neighborhood.

It's too bad the public schools in your area are inadequate.

I encourage you to work hard to improve local government in your area. That would be far more fruitful than just sitting on the sidelines and not participating in local government; which I'm sure you would never do.


35 posted on 11/12/2006 9:41:46 PM PST by Air Force Brat
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To: SuziQ

We had a pretty old, hard to read U.S. history textbook. I tried to read it over break, but it put me to sleep.

It never left my locker.

We used a thick U.S. history "summary" book (I forget the title)--this was mostly for reviewing for tests.

Our teacher actually taught us! (Surprisingly.) We did research projects in conjunction with our English class (integrated with U.S. history). The better parts were practicing for the essays and DBQs (document based questions) on the tests. Since my teacher was an AP grader, he knew exactly what the test was looking for.

We also held "Meetings of the Minds"--in which each student would pick a historical person and research that person's position on a particular topic, and we as a class would debate that topic (from our historical person's point of view).

Also--the U.S. History AP (and the SAT II test) were really really easy to begin with, imo. I got a 5 on the AP and 790 on the SAT II.


36 posted on 11/12/2006 9:43:08 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: Air Force Brat; wintertime
I am criticizing those who post unverifiable stories about a subject as if it is proof positive that their course is the right way to go.

The same could be said for those who claim that the public school is the only way to go because their children had stupendous math teachers each year. Not everyone has that experience, even in private schools. Our kids only attended public school during their Kindergarten years, and only because the Catholic school didn't have Kindergarten at that time. They never had good math teachers, until our sons entered a very good, private Catholic all boys high school.

Our oldest is smart, but he wasn't as interested in Math, though he did go all the way through AP-AB Calculus and made a 5 on the test. He just passed the Bar Exam for MA.

The next youngest was just scary he loved Math so much. He was always interested in numbers; I taught him to add and subtract, but it was my Mama, during a visit who taught him to 'carry over'. His first grade teacher, on the day of his orientation to the school, knew she was in trouble when he raised his hand and asked if they were going to get into long division that year. ;o) The best year, academically, he had in elementary school was in the 3rd grade, when we transferred him to a school that said they were into the child learning as much as he could in whatever he wanted. He surprised even THEM when he blew through ALL the math workbooks they had, all the way through 6th grade. Unfortunately, they wanted the kids to conform to their 'nonconformist' liberal ideas, and he wasn't interested, so we brought him back to the Catholic school, where he was bored stiff until his Dad 'afterschooled' him in Alg.I. By then, his Math education was mostly self-directed, though he did take all the math classes the high school had by 10th grade, then did two semesters at Holy Cross He finished Carnegie Mellon in 3 1/2 yrs. with double majors in Computer Science and Psychology and is working on a PhD in Comp. Sci. Bragging enough for ya?

Our two homeschooled kids have done well in Math, our daughter taking up through pre-Calc at the Community college, and our son just fixing to get into Alg. II in his Junior year. It is a struggle for him, mainly because of the crappy early Math years. We regret not pulling him from school earlier.

I thought wintertime was just making the point that homeschooling was the right choice for HER kids. They DID excel in that environment, after all.

37 posted on 11/12/2006 9:55:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: rabscuttle385

Sounds like a fantastic class!! Our boys used Brinkley's US History for their AP class, and our daughter used the same text when she homeschooled, though she didn't take the AP test. She liked the text, though she recognized his liberal leanings in the writings. One thing about his text that we liked was the part where he shows what other historians have to say about the matter, especially those who hold different conclusions from his. We're using the Brinkley text again with our youngest this year.


38 posted on 11/12/2006 9:58:45 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Air Force Brat
I encourage you to work hard to improve local government in your area. That would be far more fruitful than just sitting on the sidelines and not participating in local government; which I'm sure you would never do.

Would be nice, in a perfect world, but not all School Departments are amenable to change. Homeschool message boards are filled with people who followed just the route you mentioned. They volunteered, tried to talk to principals, Superintendents and School Boards. They got tired of beating their heads against a wall and realized that they didn't want to sacrifice their children's education just so they could say they were working for change.

39 posted on 11/12/2006 10:02:04 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

You bet it was! Our U.S. history summary book was mostly filled with facts (names, dates, treaties, people, places, etc.) and sample essays/DBQs.


40 posted on 11/12/2006 10:03:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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