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Home buyers back out of deals in record numbers
WSJ Online Real Estate ^ | 11-13-06 | June Fletcher and Ruth Simon

Posted on 11/13/2006 4:20:02 AM PST by xtinct

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To: 1234
these extra approvals, contingencies u refer to are tellin me 'the agreement' ain't no contract to buy, but indicates a simple show of earnest money.

That's right. But that is exactly what the "original sales contract" is meant to be. Appraised value is also a factor in the sales contract. The appraiser could kill the deal with a lower than originally specified property value.That alone would allow the buyer to walk away with his deposit, legally and easily. No attorney necessary unless some anal seller or agent is involved.

61 posted on 11/13/2006 5:25:02 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: kevkrom

Best of luck to you! If I may offer a word of advice: if you get a lowball offer, don't reject it too fast. Give yourself time to think about it.

It may be that once you get over the shock and work the numbers, you'll be disappointed, but realize it's the only way to go forward with getting your new home.

Buyers are very hard to come by these days.


62 posted on 11/13/2006 5:25:32 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Caipirabob

I suspect the ongoing issue in Mississippi is one of the driving forces behind the dramatic escalation of insurance premiums in Florida -- i.e., when you have political pressure on a government to force insurance companies to pay claims that they may not have been obligated to pay).


63 posted on 11/13/2006 5:26:01 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: angkor
When the market finally gets that painful and dismal, real investors will show up again. They tend not to buy at market tops.

That is generally the way it works. Unfortunately some very BIG money has been going into modular and prefab home builders. Something else is going to have to affect this market (in certain areas)IMO before it's too far gone.
64 posted on 11/13/2006 5:27:25 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: goldstategop
Yeah, but when prices were climbing like a skyrocket few were complaining. If we look at a trend line over a long period of time, we'll probably see prices still above the trend but correcting back to the line. Those who bought a long time ago are still way ahead; those just in or who drained all their equity with loans aren't so lucky. Still, if you bought recently for your own residence and could afford the payments you committed to pay, stay put and over time you will do fine (until the RATs blow us up). No pity for the speculators and fools who spent it all.
65 posted on 11/13/2006 5:27:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: Caipirabob

I'd add to your observations this: seeing what's happened to insurance rates and taxes in Florida, even when a family feels confident they could handle the present total cost of owning a home there, they think, "Wow, but next year insurance rates could double again" or something like that.

IOW, there's good reason to believe that at some point in the future you could be totally priced out of your home. So instead of your home payments getting easier and easier because of the future value of money, it would get harder.

Also I have friends in Florida who say a big problem is some insurance companies are simply "failing to renew" policies when they come due. So people are sitting in a home and suddenly lose their home insurance altogether. Without home insurance, the mortgage company can foreclose!


66 posted on 11/13/2006 5:29:48 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Caipirabob

I'd add to your observations this: seeing what's happened to insurance rates and taxes in Florida, even when a family feels confident they could handle the present total cost of owning a home there, they think, "Wow, but next year insurance rates could double again" or something like that.

IOW, there's good reason to believe that at some point in the future you could be totally priced out of your home. So instead of your home payments getting easier and easier because of the future value of money, it would get harder.

Also I have friends in Florida who say a big problem is some insurance companies are simply "failing to renew" policies when they come due. So people are sitting in a home and suddenly lose their home insurance altogether. Without home insurance, the mortgage company can foreclose!


67 posted on 11/13/2006 5:30:05 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Best of luck to you! If I may offer a word of advice: if you get a lowball offer, don't reject it too fast. Give yourself time to think about it.

We've already worked out the minimum bottom line number we can accept. If someone tries to lowball us and we can't negotiate them back up to that number, we will regretfully decline the contract.

We are in the position of being able to walk away -- our purchase is contingent on our existing home sale, and while it will be a little tight for space in the townhouse once the twins arrive, we can make do with it until next year if necessary.

Of course, all things considered, we'd prefer to make the deal happen now for a whole laundry list full of reasons.

68 posted on 11/13/2006 5:30:12 AM PST by kevkrom (John F'n Kerry's 'apology': "I'm sorry you were too stupid to realize I wasn't calling you stupid.")
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To: wtc911
West Michigan is one of those places that I'd really like to check out (when I get the time). Everything I've read/heard about it makes it look very attractive. Am I right?

wonderin if the demographics of detroit and dearborn r havin a effect on this area.

69 posted on 11/13/2006 5:31:24 AM PST by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: Alberta's Child

I've bought three condos and have never seen mortgage companies willing to loan to owners in a complex that is less than 80% owner-occupied.

Seems to me that's another one of those safeguards that sort of fell by the wayside in the market run-up.


70 posted on 11/13/2006 5:33:02 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: kinoxi

That's what's wierd about this market. It is behaving unlike (mostly) anything we have seen before. Even in this article, someone said the cancellation rate usually did not go up unless the economy was in recession.


71 posted on 11/13/2006 5:35:54 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wtc911

Yes, this a great place to live, I'm in Grand Haven, a small town between Holland and Muskegon. We have a little of everything for recreation.


72 posted on 11/13/2006 5:36:15 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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To: dawn53

Very good assesment, and quite correct.


73 posted on 11/13/2006 5:37:08 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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To: kinoxi
Smart people generally make out even in down turns.

That is EXACTLY when the smart people make their money.

In Boston during the downturn in the early 90's a group of young people who worked in the real estate department of John Hancock (I think)bought the two Wang Towers for $500,000. That's right, 500k for two quality office buildings right near I-495.

Their parents mortgaged their homes to come up with the money. Of course none of them has had to work a day since. It was like winning the 200 million dollar jackpot-except it took brains to do it and faith that the market would come back up.

Really smart people have already sold when the rest of the crowd is still in denial. Really smart people are buying when the rest of the crowd has panicked. There's no panic yet.

74 posted on 11/13/2006 5:37:19 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: dakine

You are right, very high unemployment. Probably the worst market nationwide.


75 posted on 11/13/2006 5:38:16 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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To: dakine

Spot-on assessment.


76 posted on 11/13/2006 5:39:47 AM PST by NordP (America Votes: Turns out there ARE more Punks than Patriots ! ....so sad)
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To: Caipirabob

Florida politicians and ultimately congress will probably have to step in here....Watch the Dems make Florida look like New Orleans before too long!


77 posted on 11/13/2006 5:42:24 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Save the Republic! Mess with the polling firms' heads!)
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To: mdmathis6
Florida politicians and ultimately congress will probably have to step in here....Watch the Dems make Florida look like New Orleans before too long!

Well, I'd be hard pressed to dispute that our economy has experienced a third world shake up. This reminds me of the Brasilian economy with the 100%-300% inflation rates killing their middle class.

People bough homes they could afford, but it was the taxes and insurance that suddenly increased when those were allegedly supposed to be more or less stable factors. This wasn't irresponsible budgeting. It was a hyper-inflation of what was expected to be reasonable incremental costs.

78 posted on 11/13/2006 5:50:45 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: goldstategop
That and the fact at $300K, it was just too much money.

I gree $300K is too much money, but that won'y buy you an average 3/2/2 in FL now a days (at least in Pinellas County).

79 posted on 11/13/2006 5:50:56 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: kevkrom

Good luck with the twins and the townhouse. I assume you are suburban DC, here in No VA the townhouse market bottomed out after dropping about 15% since June 05. There are buyers at the new prices (e.g. 420 instead of 500), but there aren't long lines of them.


80 posted on 11/13/2006 5:52:33 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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