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Joementum to the GOP?
TownHall ^ | 11.13.2006 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 11/13/2006 8:27:49 AM PST by Checkers

It hasn’t been the best week, and with the Iraq Study Group apparently poised to release its eagerly awaited plan for surrender later today, things are unlikely to get better anytime soon. So, before we get to the serious stuff, let’s cling to one piece of positive news.

Yesterday, Joe Lieberman refused to rule out the idea of caucusing with the Republicans in the Senate. As I typed that sentence and prepared to hit the “publish” button, I could sense veins popping across the progressive blogosphere. The AP reports:

"Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut said yesterday that he will caucus with Senate Democrats in the new Congress, but he would not rule out switching to the Republican caucus if he starts to feel uncomfortable among Democrats."

One can only wonder what kind of things would make Lieberman uncomfortable serving the Democratic Party. Perhaps something like a Majority Leader Murtha might do the trick.

I eagerly await the reaction of Markos Moulitsas to this news. Were it not for Markos’ ministrations, Lieberman’s ongoing loyalty to the Democratic Party would be much less of a question mark. Nonetheless, I expect Markos’ commentary to be colorfully indignant while betraying no sense of the potential damage he has wrought.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: joementum; lieberman
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1 posted on 11/13/2006 8:27:51 AM PST by Checkers
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To: Checkers

Pure b.s.wishful thinking.


2 posted on 11/13/2006 8:29:43 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Checkers

wondering if liberman will remember who left him to twist in the wind?


3 posted on 11/13/2006 8:29:44 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Checkers

Very simple. This is Lieberman's way of making sure that he gets all of the committee assignments that he wants. Why should he make a commitment to the Dems before they make a commitment to him?


4 posted on 11/13/2006 8:30:15 AM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Walkingfeather
wondering if Lieberman will remember who left him to twist in the wind?

He remembers, but he is simply raising his price in the negotiations. He will not go against his constituents.

5 posted on 11/13/2006 8:32:25 AM PST by Cold Heat (We blew it..... So back to work we go........)
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To: Checkers
Lieberman is in a pretty good spot and a thorn in the side of the Dems.

Interesting: he wouldn't have won without the GOP. A lot of republicans voted for him.
6 posted on 11/13/2006 8:32:45 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Checkers

I think Joe is enjoying being "courted", at least in the media, by both parties.

Why would he commit...and lose all that "love"?


7 posted on 11/13/2006 8:33:08 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Checkers

The only way Joe would consider this is if he plans on retiring after next term. I doubt he could get re-elected if he did this and the media would destroy him.


8 posted on 11/13/2006 8:33:14 AM PST by Always Right
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To: sittnick

Don't count Lieberman out. Afterall, he is more Conservative then Chaffee and Collins.


9 posted on 11/13/2006 8:33:18 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The voting machines aren't broken. The Dems operating the voting machines are broken.)
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To: Checkers
Joe would jump off the 51 ship onto the 49 ship?

Sorry, but someone's chain is being yanked.

10 posted on 11/13/2006 8:33:48 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: pgkdan

Yep. But I guarantee that 100% of WOT votes will have Joe in the R column. I think there was a time when, out of loyalty, Joe could be counted on to go with the Dem flow on less significant votes. Not so now.

And I think this is just Joe's shot across the bow: Don't mess with Joe, let him do his thing.


11 posted on 11/13/2006 8:34:01 AM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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To: Cold Heat

Which were Republicans, too.


12 posted on 11/13/2006 8:34:06 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Checkers

I saw him on one of the talk shows yesterday. He was pressed on this by Wallace or Russert (I forgot whom since they are eminently forgettable shows). There's no way he's going to leave the Democrats.


13 posted on 11/13/2006 8:34:34 AM PST by jammer
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To: Checkers

Joe is keeping the option open to extract more from the Dems. That's all it is.


14 posted on 11/13/2006 8:35:09 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Leiberman should have jumped ship as soon as he won and not looked back. The Dems all but pushed him overboard, so as far as I am concerned he owes them nothing.


15 posted on 11/13/2006 8:36:11 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: Checkers

We need to say it over and over. Lamont, lost big time -- in a Northeast liberal state.


16 posted on 11/13/2006 8:36:52 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Checkers

Why doesn't Lieberman run for Senate majority leader? He could get the votes. Why is he letting Reid dictate the leadership positions?


17 posted on 11/13/2006 8:37:31 AM PST by soccermom
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To: Checkers
This kind'a crap clues you in on just how far we've fallen... hoping that Joe Lieberman switches parties.

Ughhh...

18 posted on 11/13/2006 8:38:04 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Izzy Dunne

If you do the math, Lieberman Jumps, senate becomes 50-50, Republicans have control...If the GOP promises Lieberman the chairmanship of the Homeland Security Cmmte, i cant see why he wouldnt jump.


19 posted on 11/13/2006 8:41:16 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2
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To: Txsleuth
Why would he commit...and lose all that "love"?

Indeed :D....He could "pull a Jim Jeffords" and really learn "tolerance first hand/brick" from the Kings (& "Queens") of tolerance.

20 posted on 11/13/2006 8:43:33 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: johnny7

This is nothing more than a politician that knows that for a very short period of time he is holding a pair of aces and two more aces came up on the flop. He has a winner and now he will milk it for all he can. He also knows, there will be another hand. If he pushes too hard, the demonRATs will throw him overboard and recruit collins or snowe or sphincter. There is no honor with any of these dirtbags.


21 posted on 11/13/2006 8:44:56 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

If he would jump, by God they better offer it to him.

He's probably more conservative in that respect than a lot of people up there.


22 posted on 11/13/2006 8:45:32 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju(Emeritus))
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To: Checkers

Joe isn't going anywhere unless the dems really goes nuts, even then I doubt it. Joe is just having some fun driving the kossacks nuts. And, I can't blame him.


23 posted on 11/13/2006 8:46:17 AM PST by jbwbubba
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To: AmishDude

Joe is a legend in New England. People respect him for his tenure and his ability to stand up for what he believe's in which is rare these days. He will always get the votes he needs because like Ted Kennedy...he is a staple up there.

Everyone I know or have met whether they be a Dem or Rep voted for him this year. He can pull the knife out of his back that the Dems and Howard Dean stuck in there and put the Senate back at 50 with Mr.Cheney back in the tie-breaker position...hold off on that office remodeling Mr.Rangle.


24 posted on 11/13/2006 8:50:40 AM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: Izzy Dunne
-"Joe would jump off the 51 ship onto the 49 ship?"

If he jumps from the "51" ship to the "49" ship, then it's a "50-50" ship and the original "51" ship (D) just turned into a "49" ship and the original "49" (R) ship just turned into a "51" ship with the Veep's tie braking vote!

25 posted on 11/13/2006 8:52:07 AM PST by The Bronze Titan
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To: Checkers

Any move Lieberman made would be countered by Hagel officially going to the dark side.


26 posted on 11/13/2006 8:52:31 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Checkers
Perhaps something like a Majority Leader Murtha might do the trick.

Murtha is in the House. So august is the Senate that a Senator would hardly deign to notice who might be the majority leader of the lower chamber.

27 posted on 11/13/2006 8:53:17 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Checkers

He's only blackmailing the dems, not that there's anything wrong with that.


28 posted on 11/13/2006 8:53:59 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: Checkers

Lieb's way of getting the Dims to kiss his butt on everything.


29 posted on 11/13/2006 8:57:16 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Checkers

Lieb's way of getting the Dims to kiss his butt on everything. It'll work too.


30 posted on 11/13/2006 8:57:40 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Checkers

I believe that none other than William F. Buckley and the National Review group helped Lieberman get elected the first time; seeing him as a more conservative Democrat than the incumbant at that time.... (was it Lowell Weicker?, anyone?).


31 posted on 11/13/2006 9:01:24 AM PST by AmericanDave
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To: Checkers
Not happening. It's equal parts leverage for getting choice committee assignments and sticking it to Dem leadership for supporting Lamont.

No one should mistake Lieberman for a moderate because of his position on Iraq and his calculated criticism of Lewinskygate. He's a dyed-in-the-wool socialist.
32 posted on 11/13/2006 9:01:30 AM PST by Give Piece A Chance
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To: Checkers

Stranger things have happened in politics but I doubt Lieberman would switch.However, he did say several months ago in an interview he wouldn't forget what the DNC did to him.


33 posted on 11/13/2006 9:02:11 AM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Checkers

Wishful thinking. In the 2008 elections, the Republicans are defending 21 seats and the Democrats are defending 12 -- ergo, the 2009 Congress will almost certainly have a Dem majority without Lieberman (i.e. if he overplays his hand now the Dems will pay him back later).


34 posted on 11/13/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
So, it DOES become a Republican-controlled Senate if it's 50-50? I suppose that makes sense, since the VP is an R, but I was thinking that neither one would control.

Still, it's a bucket of worms - the House is on the other side of him, and it seems there are more spineless Rs than Ds, so in partisan battles, the Ds would win anyway.

35 posted on 11/13/2006 9:14:16 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Checkers

I wonder if anyone has considered that if the RATS go truly nuts that Casey or Webb could jump?


36 posted on 11/13/2006 9:14:40 AM PST by Beagle8U (Angry voters tend to make poor choices politically.....Unfortunately we all have to live with them.)
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To: AmericanDave

Lieberman is President Bush's best anti-impeachment card.

The only way Lieberman would switch parties is if the House tries to impeach Bush. I just don't believe Lieberman would let that happen and has let that threat be known behind closed doors.

Notice that the House dims say that impeachment is not on the table. Impeach or lose the Senate - interesting dilemma.


37 posted on 11/13/2006 9:19:11 AM PST by A'elian' nation
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To: johnny7
This kind'a crap clues you in on just how far we've fallen

So true.....LOL!

38 posted on 11/13/2006 10:00:34 AM PST by Cold Heat (We blew it..... So back to work we go........)
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To: A'elian' nation

Off topic but Jim Webb probably could be Senator for life in Virginia if he, now elected, were to "return to his Republican roots" in the wake of the inevidible lurch to the far left the RATS will pull after being seated in January.

One way or another Webb is going to be a "problem child" Harry Reid and the moonbats may be sorry they adopted.


39 posted on 11/13/2006 10:02:31 AM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: My Favorite Headache

And Joe is now able to say to the Dems: I don't need you anymore.

You know, it was a political masterstroke when Al put Joe on the ticket. I think it was a big reason that they almost won. (That and the Maine "November surprise".)

Joe learned what loyalty was when Al didn't endorse him for the Dem nomination.


40 posted on 11/13/2006 10:18:18 AM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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To: Checkers

I made a mistake.

Dean Barnett is the author above, not Hugh Hewitt.

Sorry about that!


41 posted on 11/13/2006 12:45:26 PM PST by Checkers ("...(play) outside in the sun all day...or...sit at your computer and do something that matters.")
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To: Always Right

you mean destroy him again? As I recall they did that in the primary.


42 posted on 11/13/2006 6:13:50 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Checkers

we need to start better dealing this guy right away.


43 posted on 11/13/2006 6:20:08 PM PST by smonk
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To: Checkers
Loyalty and demoncrats?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.....WHOOOO-WHOOOOO.....HAH-HUH-HUH-HAHAHAHA

What an oxymoron,

The only person demoncrats have been loyal to is......well....ummmm......Marx?....Lenin?.....Castro?.....hmmmmm......Comrade Clinton and Hildebeast?......sheesh.

Certainly not loyal American citizens!

44 posted on 11/13/2006 6:25:53 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Hagel's running for President, he won't go anywhere.


45 posted on 11/13/2006 6:30:38 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Checkers

Lieberman is doing this to remind the Democrat leadership he is holding the cards - and to not treat him like dirt again like they did before. He has them right where he wants them - and they'll give him whatever he wants, probably.


46 posted on 11/13/2006 6:36:27 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: dhs12345
Lieberman has seen the life of Jumpin' Jeff and is unlikely to want to retire so soon.

Besides he showed that he really has no principles with his changes to get aligned with MBP (Algore) for their campaign.

47 posted on 11/13/2006 6:59:11 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Checkers; nutmeg; #1CTYankee

It would be a great, ironic development, but I don't see it happening. At most, Lieberman will be more likely to break with his party on a few issues.


48 posted on 11/13/2006 7:09:26 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: Paladin2
I can hope. Maybe foolishly. He was pro-Iraq war and stood by his decision. That has to count for something.

Also, guessing that Lamont would have won if Republicans hadn't voted for Lieberman.

I saw something stats flashed on the TV the other night showing that a lot of Republicans voted for Lieberman. Enough to win Lieberman the race.
49 posted on 11/13/2006 7:40:19 PM PST by dhs12345
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Connecticut ping!

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50 posted on 11/13/2006 10:05:30 PM PST by nutmeg (In 2008 we will crush the Democrats like the cockroaches they are! -- Mark Levin 11-8-06)
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