Posted on 11/13/2006 5:45:29 PM PST by listenhillary
You are right Fester! I couldn't agree more. The centuries of warfare in which prisoners were taken without lawyers present were a denial of their rights! The declaration of independence and the Constitution really are suicide pacts and we should extend all rights to those who want to kill us.
I didn't want my kids to live anyway. Allahu Akbar.
This was proven last Tuesday.
This is classical propaganda - set up a calculated "poll" and/or "news report"; and then refer to it(them) in spreading the "results" to news organizations around the world.
The former Soviet Union regime would plant a small story in some foreign newspaper - then the leftist papers would pick this up as a wire story, and soon a fake news story assumed the proportions of a major event.
There of course were never any corrections after it was shown that the story was false. And leftist organizations, as in the U. S., would continue to quote the fabrication.
They also did not mention that they were all of very low IQ.
MNJohnnie, you stated and presented it superbly. May serious individuals on this site retain copies - and always keep them close-by. Thanks again, friend.
They deserve NO rights
If you believe the rights we enjoy originate solely from the pieces of paper they are written upon then I can understand why you believe those rights extend solely to US Citizens. But where do our rights truly come from, and how far do they extend? Are you another one of those people who belives natural law begins and ends at our borders?
When we aim for the defeat of our enemies it is because they do not recognize the very rights we aim to secure for ourselves and our posterity; rights that precede our birth as a nation. The enemies of our freedom are both within and without our borders. The same holds for friends.
The phrase "legal rights" encompasses a wider geographical range than our borders, a wider body than the US Citizenry. As for the occupants of Gitmo who do not recognize those rights, they should be kept there by law.
Not so. The polled 800 were students in Muslim terrorist trainee camps.
We are the world... We are the children.... So lets get together... for the people of the world toooo beeeee freeeee! Wee are the woooorrrlllddd....
Kumbahyahhh my lord.... Koombyaha.... koombayyyaahhh my lord... koooombayah.....
We were so mean to those Nazi's in WWII too.. they had rights, didn't they? Didnt they?? What paper let us do that?
We never gave them lawyers and massages. We are just and evil, evil country.
You mean the Nazi prisoners to whom some of our military chaplains preached the Gospel? Yes. They had rights. As I said, the rights acknowledged in our founding documents have their origin in God. They did not, and do not, come about by virtue of the paper they are written upon.
....They had rights. As I said, the rights acknowledged in our founding documents have their origin in God....
They had rights conveyed upon them as soldiers of a national power that at a certain date in history, signed A PIECE OF PAPER, called the Geneva Convention. We observed that treaty and the NAZIs broadly reciprocated.
I like your disdain for paper. That is how Hitler felt too. Who needs a written Constitution. Lets get creative. Might makes rights, doesn't it?
The paper is no good if the idea(s) expressed thereon have no basis. The idea supercedes the ink and paper. The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are neither coextant nor coterminous with our borders, let alone the piece of paper that expresses them. Whoever is an enemy of those rights ought to be exterminated or jailed. Comprende?
Whoever is an enemy of those rights ought to be exterminated or jailed. Comprende?
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