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Maoris 'facing extinction' from diabetes
Dominion Post (New Zealand) ^ | Tuesday November 14 2006 | None ascribed

Posted on 11/13/2006 9:19:04 PM PST by Brian Allen

Escalating rates of diabetes among indigenous cultures could make the Maori and Polynesian races "extinct" before the end of the century, an Australian expert warns.

Professor Paul Zimmet, director of Monash University's International Diabetes Institute, said the rising number of diabetes victims among the world's indigenous communities would decimate entire cultures. "Without urgent action there certainly is a real risk major wipings out of indigenous communities, if not total extinction, within this century," he said.

"Life expectancy is already low and dropping, diabetes is hitting them very hard and the infections, amputations and kidney disease will just wreak more havoc."

Professor Zimmet labeled rising world diabetes rates – with the disease affecting one in four "indigenous" adults – a tragedy threatening to consume world economies and bankrupt "health systems."

Extinction was a "very real reality" and Australia's Aborigines were just as much at risk as Maori and Pacific Island populations and native peoples in the United States and Canada, he said. Professor Zimmet will discuss his findings at a Diabetes in "Indigenous People" Forum, which opened in Melbourne yesterday.

The claims have split experts in New Zealand. Professor Chris Cunningham, of Massey's Research Centre for Maori Health, agreed with Professor Zimmet's dire prediction, describing diabetes among Maori as being at "epidemic proportions".

Little research and screening had been carried out into the disease's prevalence among Maori and Pacific Island populations, but Professor Cunningham suspected well over half of those with diabetes did not know they had the disease.

Professor Cunningham said Maori and Pacific islanders were more susceptible to diabetes as they were not physiologically accustomed to the Western lifestyle and diet.

"The reality is a Big Mac hurts Maori more than it hurts Caucasians."

The onset of type-2 diabetes is generally triggered by obesity.

Though it usually strikes in adulthood, increasing numbers of teenagers and children are developing the disease.

Health Ministry figures show type-2 diabetes is thought to account for 20 per cent of deaths among Maori, compared with 4 per cent for non-Polynesian New Zealanders.

Maori males are 61/2 times more likely and Maori females 10 times more likely to die from diabetes than non-Polynesian people, while Pacific peoples are five times more likely to die from diagnosed diabetes than non-Polynesians.

Porirua's Ora Toa health unit manager, Charlene Williams, who is from a family with a history of diabetes, did not believe Maori would become extinct.

"They've said this about us before and we're still here." Most Maori with diabetes developed it later in life, after they had children.

Fight the Obesity Epidemic spokeswoman Robyn Toomath, a Wellington Hospital endocrinologist, said Maori and Pacific Islanders were genetically more susceptible to obesity and therefore to developing diabetes. But the waistline of all New Zealanders was expanding.

Health Ministry chief clinical adviser Sandy Dawson said the Government paid close attention to addressing the disparity in ethnic rates of diabetes.

Diagnosing diabetes early is a specific priority for the Ministry of Health, District Health Boards and Primary Health Organizations.

Last year an estimated 125,000 people were diagnosed as diabetic. Twenty two per cent of them were Maoris.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: anthropology; assimilation; diabetes; diet; health; indigenouspeoples; maori; multiculturalism; newzealand; obesity; price
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<< world diabetes rates .... affecting one in four "indigenous" adults >>

Message?

Assimilate or die!

1 posted on 11/13/2006 9:19:08 PM PST by Brian Allen
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To: shaggy eel

Nature's God Rules!


2 posted on 11/13/2006 9:20:17 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Brian Allen
"The reality is a Big Mac hurts Maori more than it hurts Caucasians."

This may be the next angle in the attempt to tobacco-ize fast food by the Left: Fast food is racist!

3 posted on 11/13/2006 9:22:48 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: Brian Allen
affecting one in four "indigenous" adults

Sooooo, If I get a job my diabetes will go away?

4 posted on 11/13/2006 9:25:23 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: Brian Allen

I've heard before that the Western diet is a real problem for Native American, Hispanic and Black groups. When they stick to their native ancestral diet, they don't have this problem.


5 posted on 11/13/2006 9:25:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: denydenydeny

<< Fast food is racist! >>

"Liberals" are.


6 posted on 11/13/2006 9:26:22 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: metmom

<< I've heard before that the Western diet is a real problem for Native American, Hispanic and Black groups. >>

Assimilation cures all ills.


7 posted on 11/13/2006 9:27:45 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Brian Allen; shaggy eel
In the last 10 or so years, here on the Gila River Indian Reservation, they've been able to open diabetes centers to treat, educate and manage diabetic Native Americans. They've done a fairly good job of lowering the rate of diabetes on the reservation, so far.

That said, you can still get some of the best fry bread anywhere on the reservation!

8 posted on 11/13/2006 9:28:18 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles..." Fr. A. Saenz)
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To: metmom

PBS had a show about that, it focused on Native Americans living in the desert southwest.

Due to the desert conditions, times of plenty are pretty rare. So when high-carb, high-fat food items are available, they totally load up on them - then go back for seconds.

There seems to be some genetic dispositions to be very, very efficient at the storing of calories.

Interesting show.


9 posted on 11/13/2006 9:35:54 PM PST by djf (Islam!! There's a flag on the moon! Guess whose? Hint: Not yours!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

New Zealand ping


10 posted on 11/13/2006 9:36:48 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Brian Allen

We should all eat more fish. No wait, the fish are going extinct too.


11 posted on 11/13/2006 9:38:33 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Brian Allen
The issues of diabetes, and obesity seem to support the Atkins diet worldview: that humans are not intended to be vegitarians, but are carnivores and need to eat meat. I suffered from obesity, etc. I went on Atkins and my health improved dramatically, going from a slim, trim 296 lbs to an absolutely aenemic 208 pounds in 6 months; from struggling to swim 300 yards to struggling to swim 2,500 yards in six weeks, and being rid of arthritis. We are carnivores, at least I am.

The libs need to deal with it.

12 posted on 11/13/2006 9:44:21 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Brian Allen
It's hard to fish out from the article, but half way through it starts to mention that this is type 2 diabetes.

That being said, the cure may be simple.

Not sure, but I think it was the University of Hawaii that has tried to fight obesity in native Hawaiians by putting them on an old fashioned Hawaiian diet. Fish, poi, and stuff like that. They seemed to have some success.

If the Maoris didn't always have a high susceptibility to diabetes then going back to their native diet might work.

13 posted on 11/13/2006 9:44:53 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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this is one of the few diet plans proven to promote weight loss.
14 posted on 11/13/2006 9:54:33 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: djf

I believe I watched the show on PBS (if it is the same one). It was very interesting.


15 posted on 11/13/2006 9:57:26 PM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: USNBandit

<< If the Maoris didn't always have a high susceptibility to diabetes then going back to their native diet might work. >>

But why bother, when assimilation WILL "work."

(OR: What is it about "evolution" that the Darwinists are having the greatest difficulty with? Two or three too many syllables for them, perhaps?)


16 posted on 11/13/2006 9:57:55 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: lafroste

Tell me more about your Atkins experience, please? (As in any variation from the standard diet, as published, etceteras)

I'm 230 pounds going on 165 and need all the help I can get!

Thanks in anticipation - Brian


17 posted on 11/13/2006 10:01:11 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Brian Allen

The life expectancy was 35-40 years. Now it is 65-70 years.

Why? Big Macs! It sure is a killer!


18 posted on 11/13/2006 10:01:54 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: beaversmom

<< We should all eat more fish. No wait, the fish are going extinct too. >>

I'd drink to that ....

.... 'Cept I don't drink!


19 posted on 11/13/2006 10:02:59 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Prost1

<< Why? Big Mac! It sure is a killer! >>

The anti-Civilizationalists, like this study's authors and commentators, are always fishing for ways to attack our Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization's foundations, edifices and institutions.

World wide, it's beginning to look as though Fast Food's number came up.


20 posted on 11/13/2006 10:07:39 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: metmom
When they stick to their native ancestral diet, they don't have this problem.

The modern Western diet is not normal to any ethnic group.

Never before in history has a diet as rich in calories been available to the common man.

Never before has the poor had a problem with obesity.

What two hundred years ago were strictly diseases of the wealth are now inflicted on the poor by a plague of cheap food.

21 posted on 11/13/2006 10:09:44 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Brian Allen

Soon, the MAD (mothers against drunk drivers) will figure out that people who just had a fast-food hamburger got into an accident.

And then...Mothers against Fast Food! Instead of a DUI, you get a UFFI (under Fast Food Influence)!

It is coming...


22 posted on 11/13/2006 10:28:07 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: metmom
I've heard before that the Western diet is a real problem for Native American, Hispanic and Black groups. When they stick to their native ancestral diet, they don't have this problem.

A dentist/anthropologist named Weston A. Price wrote "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" in mid-20th-century based on research he did in various parts of the world. He studied paired groups of people, closely related ethnically.One of the groups would live close to easy access to commercially manufactured foods, while the other would be isolated in some way so that had to rely on more traditional foods, including that grown by themselves.

Most were relatively primitive people, but also included an isolated, Roman Catholic Swiss farming community and their non-isolated nearby relatives who had easy access to "white bread" type foods.

He found extreme differences in dental arches, skull and skeletal structures as well as susceptibility to many diseases including diabetes and tuberculosis, though it was not known at the time that tuberculosis is contagious. His research methods may not have satisfied those of today, but were very convincing, more so in fact than today's sometimes very small reported differences.

The book is available at Amazon, and there is a website dedicated to his work. The website IMO has gone overboard, though I doubt any of their food choices would be unhealthy.




Left: [Fijians] The development of the facial bones determines the size and shape of the palate and the size of the nasal passages. Note the strength of the neck of the men above and the well-proportioned faces of the girls below. Such faces are usually associated with properly proportioned bodies. Tooth decay is rare in these mouths so long as they use an adequate selection of native foods.
23 posted on 11/13/2006 10:28:27 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Brian Allen

I question the basis of this report.

Diseases are not likely to cause extinction of any group unless the diseases cause death prior to reproduction. Adult onset diabetes will kill most of its victims in the fifth decade of life, long after procreation has taken place.

I'm not denigrating the seriousness of adult-onset diabetes. It is a serious disease indeed, and must be treated not only as a disease of the individual, but as a public health issue as well.

Diet and lifestyle changes can delay the effects of diabetes for years, and with the addition of medication such as metformin, and insulin potentiators now coming into use, even the use of insulin injection can often be avoided for many years longer than might have been the case 30 yrears ago.

I can't conceive of any way that adult-onset diabetes could cause the 'extinction" of an ethnic group.


24 posted on 11/13/2006 10:30:16 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: KneelBeforeZod

I have been laughing the last five minutes on that photo.


25 posted on 11/13/2006 10:31:04 PM PST by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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To: Brian Allen

I believe part of this is cultural - not any indigenous culture BS but the liberal welfare "hand out" culture which has destroyed the Maoris as well as the Australian Aborigines. When you get used to living on hand-outs, your whole view on life changes. You don't cook, bathe enough, exercise, get educated, do chores etc. Fast food is easy and tasty. Instead of a treat, it becomes 3 or more meals a day. Hence diabetes, heart disease, impotence, extinction.


26 posted on 11/13/2006 10:39:59 PM PST by generalhammond
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To: little jeremiah; neverdem

ping


27 posted on 11/13/2006 10:40:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Acorns, roots and sour grass?


28 posted on 11/13/2006 10:44:49 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: djf

Sounds like the ancient tribes of Stillborns and Willpowers.


29 posted on 11/13/2006 10:46:13 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

Acorns were absolutely critical to alot of native Americans, many of the grinding wheels they've found were used for acorns, not grain.

The biggest ones for the desert southwest are afaik Saguaro cactus fruit and prickly pear.


30 posted on 11/13/2006 10:51:20 PM PST by djf (Islam!! There's a flag on the moon! Guess whose? Hint: Not yours!)
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To: metmom

But can you do that on food stamps?


31 posted on 11/13/2006 10:54:51 PM PST by baa39 (God bless America...quick!)
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To: generalhammond; shaggy eel

<< I believe part of this is cultural - not any indigenous culture BS but the liberal welfare "hand out" culture which has destroyed the Maoris as well as the Australian Aborigines. >>

Spot on.

I have witnessed it at first hand and, born in New Zealand and having spent years in Australia, have watched as successive socialist ("liberal") governments and their legions of parasitical power-hungry elitist permanent "public servants" have willfully thrown wrenches in the works of more than a hundred years of successful assimilation, have delusionally fantasized faux "histories" for both countries early migrants, the Maoris and the Australian natives, have turned both early-settler peoples into "victims." (Of white "oppression") They have also convinced entire generations of young Australians and New Zealanders of their "guilt" toward brown peoples in general and toward New Zealand's Polynesian migrants and Australia's even earlier arrivals, in particular -- and have created the "liberal welfare 'hand out' culture which has 'destroyed the Maoris' as well as the Australian (native people)."

This piece and all others like it have one common thread. They are all about the CONSEQUENCES, intended and otherwise, of liberal screwings up!

(In this instance) "Diabetes" is but the symptom of a far deeper and more serious disease:

Liberalism!


32 posted on 11/13/2006 11:04:35 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: baa39

No but the food is still free. The only catch is that without food stamps you have to work for it.


33 posted on 11/13/2006 11:12:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

thanks, bfl


34 posted on 11/13/2006 11:41:53 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Brian Allen

This looks like a job for: The Food Nazis!!


35 posted on 11/13/2006 11:44:03 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Brian Allen
The onset of type-2 diabetes is generally triggered by obesity.

No the onset of type-2 diabetes is the later stage of a systemic fungal infection, obesity is an early efect of fungal toxicity. The sudden onset of type-2 diabetes in recent days is a bacterial infection with a bacteria that seems to have a section of the pancreas dna spliced onto its outer shell. The body on learning of this invader targets not only the bacteria but the pancreas, depressing insulin production. A very interesting bacteria, It turns the bodys own immune system against itself. The Hebrew university is working on a vaccine that retrains the body away from attacking itself. They are having some good results in a friend of mine. His insulin use is down to a fraction of what it was and his blood sugar is stabilizing.

His symptoms are different, with fungus, look for a period of onset obesity, with the bacteria look for the type-2 showing up right after a severe stomach flu like sickness. This kid is skinny as a rail.

Some types of type-2 are curable, but not with traditional medicine that seeks to cure the symptoms and ignores the cause. The pharmaceutical industry knows that sick people pay doctors and buy drugs, so it is better to focus on treating the symptoms than curing your cash cow...

36 posted on 11/14/2006 12:04:10 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: CitadelArmyJag; skepsel; texas booster; Fractal Trader; TruthSetsUFree; HungarianGypsy; Poincare; ..
A Nutrition Ping List
For Those Interested in the Research
of Dr. Weston A. Price

37 posted on 11/14/2006 3:01:12 AM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: metmom

The Western diet is a problem for all of us, IMO. Food allergies are rampant and increasing, diabetes is also increasing in the U.S., not to mention the prevalence of heart disease and strokes.


38 posted on 11/14/2006 4:39:14 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: caveat emptor
Anyone interested in reading the book about the dentist who studied ethnic diets and found them far superior to our Western one in terms of health results, can find the book on Amazon here.

Also, Sally Fallon has in many ways picked up the baton. She's put together a cookbook which has tons of information as well as recipes. It's called Nourishing Traditions.

My health has improved a lot since following this way of eating. I've also discovered an intolerance to gluten and dairy, and after going off both of those have lost weight, no longer have migraines and brain fog, and in general have lots more energy and motivation. It's been quite a health journey so far but it's been worth it.

39 posted on 11/14/2006 4:56:15 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: Brian Allen
I have witnessed it at first hand and, born in New Zealand and having spent years in Australia, have watched as successive socialist ("liberal") governments and their legions of parasitical power-hungry elitist permanent "public servants" have willfully thrown wrenches in the works of more than a hundred years of successful assimilation, have delusionally fantasized faux "histories" for both countries early migrants...

Exactly the same dire process as Canada has inflicted on natives and whites alike.

The "public servants" and native leaders are the "judas goats" of socialism - leading entire populations to their doom.

40 posted on 11/14/2006 5:01:28 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Brian Allen
How does a population go extinct from type 2 diabetes?  Isn't that an age 40 disease?

 

41 posted on 11/14/2006 5:12:14 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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To: headsonpikes

<< Exactly the same dire process as Canada has inflicted on natives and whites alike.

The "public servants" and native leaders are the "Judas goats" of socialism - leading entire populations to their doom. >>

Appreciate the Canadian situation very well, also. Went to college in New Brunswick and have had commercial and business interests, mostly in BC -- and a place up there -- for almost forty years. I thus don't merely "feel Canadians' pain" but, especially through the traitor, Trudeau's, times and through those of his heirs and successors, have also lived it. Eh?

Best ones - B A


42 posted on 11/14/2006 5:23:08 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Brian Allen

We were told when we visited NZ that illegal drugs was wiping the Maoris out.


43 posted on 11/14/2006 5:26:08 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I've heard that it's showing up in young people these days; in their 20's. The one article I read on it, and if I can recall where it was I'll see about looking it up, was done by someone who looked at different groups of people. One thing he noticed is that the Amish, who eat a pretty much typical Western diet, have a very low type 2 diabetes rate. Along with that, he noticed that you NEVER (according to him) see a fat Amish child. He suspected that there was some correlation between childhood obesity and early onset of Type 2 diabetes. He also thought their much more active lifestyle helped fight it.


44 posted on 11/14/2006 5:26:45 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ditter

<< We were told when we visited NZ that illegal drugs was wiping the Maoris out. >>

When I was growing up the booze was doing a not too shabby job of that, too.


45 posted on 11/14/2006 5:27:37 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Brian Allen
Went to college in New Brunswick and have had commercial and business interests, mostly in BC -- and a place up there -- for almost forty years. I thus don't merely "feel Canadians' pain" but, especially through the traitor, Trudeau's, times and through those of his heirs and successors, have also lived it. Eh?

To have lived through this humiliating era has been a revelation to me. From what was arguably the most free country in the world we descended into a dreary faux-European "social democracy", with the added excrescence of a new nationalism fostered by Liberal Party interest.

We desperately need the Tories to form a majority government, and then make it Job #1 to horse-whip Liberal appointees through the streets.

I suppose I'll settle for firings. ;^)

46 posted on 11/14/2006 5:38:21 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: headsonpikes

<< To have lived through this humiliating era has been a revelation to me .... >>

Me too.

And since we are talking about a humiliating era: Born a British "subject," and as proud as a young man could be of the sea of red on every world map and that "the sun never set on the British Empire," I've spent my life in Aerospace/Aeronautics/Aviation and have traveled the equivalent of upwards of 700 times around the Earth.

And although, thank God, now an American, what is worse for me than the faux Euro-peon socialist "democracies" into which both once great now grovelling Britain and its every former colony (With the marked exception of, since 1942 America-oriented, Australia) has degenerated, is, everywhere I've ever traveled and travel still, the attitude of the pathetically pontificating faux Euro-peon pukes and crapheads who haven't seen and cannot see the mess they've made and and who blissfully, every one of them a little legend in his own lunchtime Winston Jerome Churchill, a John G Diefenbaker, a Peter Fraser or even a "Kiwi Keith" Holyoake, both lord it over the bloody disasters they've created -- and talk down to the rest of us.


47 posted on 11/14/2006 5:59:47 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: metmom
When they stick to their native ancestral diet, they don't have this problem.

Where are the Plains Indians going to find buffalo? Which other humans should the Maori eat?

48 posted on 11/14/2006 6:02:43 AM PST by CholeraJoe (USAF Air Rescue "That others may live.")
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To: CholeraJoe

Buffalo is easy to get - you can buy it over the internet, not so sure about the other stuff....


49 posted on 11/14/2006 6:28:10 AM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: CholeraJoe

They sell buffalo in the grocery stores here...

http://www.reasors.com/departments/meat/meat_buffalo.html


50 posted on 11/14/2006 6:28:23 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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