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Al-Qaeda 'planning for nuclear attack'
The Scotsman ^ | November 14, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/13/2006 11:51:01 PM PST by MadIvan

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Oh, joy.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/13/2006 11:51:04 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/13/2006 11:51:18 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

OK, Nancy, you've told us W has been doing it wrong for five years--where's YOUR plan to fight Al Qaeda?


3 posted on 11/13/2006 11:52:27 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: Darkwolf377
OK, Nancy, you've told us W has been doing it wrong for five years--where's YOUR plan to fight Al Qaeda?

There's nothing to worry about. Reports like this are just the neocons using their "scare tactics"!

4 posted on 11/13/2006 11:57:47 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Darkwolf377

she doesn't answer to "nancy" any more...you have to call her madame speaker to get a response


5 posted on 11/13/2006 11:58:38 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Darkwolf377

One thing we have been doing is setting up radiation monitors at ports. etc.

I was at a place where they were testing them (big things that container trucks drive under. The guy had a paper cup of liquid, would get in his car and drive through, get out and tweak some dials - drive through again, etc. It was amazing that this stuff that he was carrying (bare hands, street clothes, etc.) was enough to set off the sensors.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 12:00:37 AM PST by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Surrender! The Democritters have been telling us all along that this is their plan. Amazing that now the election is over, the MSM is reporting the truth about what Freeper's have known all along. The Muslims want to kill us.


7 posted on 11/14/2006 12:00:56 AM PST by DISCO
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To: Darkwolf377
OK, Nancy, you've told us W has been doing it wrong for five years--where's YOUR plan to fight Al Qaeda?

The Dr. Doolittle approach?

You know, "Talk to the animals...."

8 posted on 11/14/2006 12:02:47 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: DISCO

Yea and the ecomony is so good there aren't enough skilled workers for all the jobs available as reported tonight on the radio !


9 posted on 11/14/2006 12:03:03 AM PST by america-rules
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To: MadIvan

"Rise early and slay them first."


10 posted on 11/14/2006 12:03:14 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: geopyg
That's fascinating, thanks for sharing that. I have no idea how this kind of technology works or how sensitive it is so any hard info is interesting.

I wonder if Nancy thinks this is overkill, since Al Qaeda isn't really that big a deal.

11 posted on 11/14/2006 12:05:08 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: MadIvan

Some unidentified person says Al Quaeda wants to bomb us. Now that's what I call News.


12 posted on 11/14/2006 12:09:19 AM PST by Schweinhund
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To: Cementjungle
Re #4

This could be all settled if she and other liberal women join the harem of Bin Laden(or whoever is in charge now.) Nuke for liberal harem, sounds like a bargain to me.

13 posted on 11/14/2006 12:11:31 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: MadIvan

NANCY! FORGET ABOUT BUSH! ....SAVE US!!!


14 posted on 11/14/2006 12:12:04 AM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: Dallas59
The American people have long ago put 9/11 behind them. It will take another "big" event to get their attention again. Sadly, if these Muslim terrorists are indeed able to pull off a nuclear explosion of some sort or a chemical attack, say a large qty of saran gas introduced in a sky scraper air-handler system, 9/11 will appear insignificant.
15 posted on 11/14/2006 12:21:55 AM PST by snoringbear
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To: MadIvan

Well,

they aint getting any WMDs from Iraq anytime soon thats for sure!


16 posted on 11/14/2006 12:27:51 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: snoringbear
9/11 will appear insignificant.

What concerns me is that even after a >9/11 attack, who would we attack? Is there a possiblity that our hands would be tied because we couldn't pinpoint a responsible nation? Al Queada is in many countries - if a cell in London pulls it off, are we going to bomb London? Personally, I'd like to get rid of all of these creeps, but I am afraid we would take that attack and hold more memorial services, especially if Dims are in charge.

17 posted on 11/14/2006 12:33:15 AM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: kingattax
you have to call her madame speaker to get a response

You mean "Shrieker of the House"?

18 posted on 11/14/2006 12:40:31 AM PST by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: MadIvan
that future terror attacks in Britain could involve weapons of mass destruction.

Interesting, cause "BLAIR SAYS IRAN AND SYRIA CAN BE 'PARTNERS FOR PEACE'..."

19 posted on 11/14/2006 12:44:15 AM PST by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Her plan is clear; Withdraw the troops, leave Iraq, Iran, N.Korea, and terror alone, and die happily thereafter. But not before some daily fundraisers to boost Hillary Presidential campaign first.


20 posted on 11/14/2006 1:06:17 AM PST by Screamname (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: DISCO
"Amazing that now the election is over, the MSM is reporting the truth about what Freeper's have known all along. The Muslims want to kill us."

That could actually be excellent! The conservatives and Republicans have shouldered there share. Such MSM attention while the Democrats hold both houses of Congress will force them to shoulder their share, or fall from grace.

I'm a firm believer that any chance of defeating our enemy will require our nation be united as one. If MSM can help that along, more power to them.
21 posted on 11/14/2006 1:08:32 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Darkwolf377

"Plan? What plan? You mean we need a plan?"

22 posted on 11/14/2006 1:09:04 AM PST by Screamname (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Darkwolf377
Oh wait, she does have a plan....


23 posted on 11/14/2006 1:10:37 AM PST by Screamname (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: snoringbear
Some have put 9-11 behind them. I hope it isn't most. Sadly, an opportunity escaped. I had never thought our nation could be so mobilized, but it was, and not by the call of any leader, but our deep sense of grief and outrage. Because our leaders lacked the wisdom to utilize a self-mobilized people, we returned to our old ways. We will most certainly have to suffer another tragic loss before we can be galvanized as one.

I personally feel such a time is rapidly approaching. It has been too quiet here in the states. If the UK is aware of approximately 30 planned attacks in various stages of implementation within their own nation, I have a dire sense attacks of similar proportion and preparedness are already underway here also, and were initiated well before the elections.
24 posted on 11/14/2006 1:28:30 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Cementjungle
There's nothing to worry about. Reports like this are just the neocons using their "scare tactics"!

Of course, and when the nuclear fallout starts to drop over the outskirts of Washington, look for AlGoreTM to blame it on "Global Warming". The surprising thing will be that he'll be close to the truth...

25 posted on 11/14/2006 1:32:15 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MadIvan

Why wouldn't they?

We invited them last week!


26 posted on 11/14/2006 1:35:59 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: MadIvan; nuconvert

I read somewhere quite some time ago that some members of AQ were against 9/11 attacks. They thought it'd wake up the Americans and the world too soon to AQ and Islamist malicious intentions. But, 9/11 happened...we still, seem half asleep. Hey, this ain't USSR and Cold War, Reagan passed away and Thatcher was forced away by her OWN party. I have tremendous respect for both.

Now, there is nothing that could stop any AQ or Islamist attacks anywhere if they were truly determined to do so, imo. Many have written about it, including this person - read it please, if you haven't already:

http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jul04/harari.htm


Airport security, etc.. are ad hoc, reactive, and tactical at best.

This war needs to be understood at multiple and strategic levels; it still isn't or, at least, doesn't seem to be. If it is understood by enemy and strategic terms, then, the West needs to act accordingly and in a United fashion. So far, it isn't and hasn't acted in any meaningful sense AT ALL.

I'm saddened by the fact that the Democrats won the midterm elections. But, as for Islamic Iran or AQ, was there any other actionable or feasible strategy or policy before the Dems won? I'm afraid the clear answer is: NO.


27 posted on 11/14/2006 1:52:28 AM PST by odds
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To: kingattax
...call her madame speaker..

ma-DAMN speaker works for me.

Sorry, I couldn't resist...

prisoner6

28 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:36 AM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: radiohead

You pose a valid question about which nation to hold responsible if an Al Qaeda terror cell based in London launched an attack here in the states. I'm inclined for holding the responsible nation accountable, the Nation of Islam ... all of it!


29 posted on 11/14/2006 2:25:50 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: MadIvan

My question is where will they get the necessary nuclear materials? Of course, they need a host country to do all the assembly and testing. That country will be risking much if it were discovered that such activities were occuring. Something like the Cuban Missle Crisis would take place.


30 posted on 11/14/2006 2:28:18 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: odds

Excellent post and link. I haven't read all the report yet, but from what I have read it is on the mark.


31 posted on 11/14/2006 2:32:47 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Cementjungle
"There's nothing to worry about. Reports like this are just the neocons using their "scare tactics"!"

Oh, and don't worry we will not let it come to actual attacks.
Gosh we'll just sit down and have some nice talks with them. Nancy assure us that they really don't mean us any harm. They really just want our help in advancing their religion. You know the religion of peace. BARD. Amen.
32 posted on 11/14/2006 2:59:24 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: radiohead

Your right but I guess if I were to pick I'd go to the source, IRAN. Just blow the country to hell. Amen.


33 posted on 11/14/2006 3:03:40 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: DISCO

whats really amazing is that nothing has really come out after the NYT admits Saddam had WMD's


34 posted on 11/14/2006 3:08:56 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: MadIvan

Don't worry... Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will protect us.


35 posted on 11/14/2006 4:25:50 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: MadIvan

this 'news' is at least 5 yrs. old!!


36 posted on 11/14/2006 5:03:19 AM PST by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: radiohead
Re post 17 you asked "who would we attack?" I think a better question is "what would we attack?" A nuclear attack on the CONUS would consititute an all out war with (radical) islam. Don't be surprised to see internment camps in the US, just like WW II. The Persian Gulf supply route and the oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Iran should be secured, occupied and pumped out. The NWP of Pakistan should be attacked from the air with nuclear weapons if neccessary.

Before the US is attacked, a nuclear target list should be drawn up and shown to moslem leaders. It should be made very clear that these targets will be vaporized within 24 hours of a nuclear attack against the US. This target list would include all the major urban areas and all the religious sites of the islamic world, including Mecca, Medina et al.

War is war, sides must be chosen and if you choose the wrong side, you might lose your life.

37 posted on 11/14/2006 5:15:03 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: odds

Thank you odds!


38 posted on 11/14/2006 5:20:40 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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39 posted on 11/14/2006 5:39:57 AM PST by SJackson ( There is no threat. Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. John Kerry)
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To: radiohead
I endorse Charles Krauthammer's suggestion that we make a statement that any nucelar attack by terrorists anywhere will be considered an attack by North Korea on the United States, which will receive an appropriate nuclear response.

Unfortunately, that approach only works if Iran doesn't get the bomb.

40 posted on 11/14/2006 5:43:57 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: All

This will sound awful, but I'm nearly at the point where I don't care anymore. Americans and Europeans no longer wish to fight the enemy.

I'm considering moving to China. I know *they* won't take any crap from the islamonazis.


41 posted on 11/14/2006 5:46:32 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sadly, I think your plan might be the only one that works.

The founding commander of the Air Force's Strategic Air Command, Curtis LeMay, was asked in 1986 if the U.S. could have won in Vietnam. He replied, "In any two week period you care to mention." Of course, his plan was for massive strategic bombing, and it would have worked...we know that from information that's come out since the war regarding how the North Vietnamese viewed the Linebacker campaigns.

Mybe I'm biased because I cut my teeth in SAC, but we may just have to channel Curtis LeMay to win this thing. I'm not one of the "nuke 'em all" crowd, I just think it's time to get the non-terrorists and terrorist funders worried about what the terrorists might get them into.


42 posted on 11/14/2006 5:55:04 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: geopyg
One thing we have been doing is setting up radiation monitors at ports. etc.

Unfortunately, it does no good if they put it in a truck and drive it over an isolated part of the border ( Northern or Southern ).

43 posted on 11/14/2006 5:58:55 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: backtothestreets

......your firm belief goes directly to the issue at hand-whether the West or the East wins the religious war...it's my firm belief that Islam doesn't need to do one thing more in the way of direct terror, that 9-11 was sufficient for the purpose of preparing the West for a prayer rug in every home, because any attempt to unite in opposition will automatically trigger the multicultural responses that have been assiduously imbedded into our culture for the past forty years or so...I need look no further than the Catholic catechitical conference I attended last weekend in which a workshop devoted to 'Learning Islam' was well received and attended...or to our public library sponsoring evening lessons about Islam...any initial urge to retaliate will be beaten down in time by such 'enlightening' processes as these...I suggest those of you with children attending elementary and high school take a look at the curricula of these places, for if some nipping of the bud is to take place, it is necessary...


44 posted on 11/14/2006 5:59:25 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: MadIvan

See post 42...meant to direct it to you as well.


45 posted on 11/14/2006 6:00:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

That sounds great, but can you see the dems doing that if they're the ones in power?


46 posted on 11/14/2006 6:02:23 AM PST by JZelle
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To: zook

This will sound awful, but I'm nearly at the point where I don't care anymore. Americans and Europeans no longer wish to fight the enemy.


I feel that way sometimes. Americans have voted and they do not want to fight the enemy. I fear for my children that is my worry.


47 posted on 11/14/2006 6:03:47 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Sorry, I agree with the late great General LeMay. Two Trident subs could carry out the strategic portion of this war in two hours. It would be all over but the mop up.

I am afraid it is going to come to this. The (radical) islams see us as weak and feckless. They only understand one thing. What passes for political leadership in that part of the world agrees with this analysis and is playing with fire.

If the dems elect a president in 2008, he/she might see a nuclear response as the only way to "earn their spurs" as tough on defense of the US. Events are not leading us to peace.

I just hope that the US is stockpiling neutron bombs, or ramps up the production line soon. I wouldn't want to see that much fallout released into the atmosphere.

48 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:00 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: JZelle

See post 48


49 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:46 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: IrishBrigade
Your concerns are valid. Islam is a religion of war and oppression that has some peaceful adherents, just as Christianity is a religion that values love between one man and one woman for life but has some adherents who think it's the religion of gay marriage. The problem is, it's difficult to get this across to people without seeming to demonize the Muslims that have no interest in doing anything to harm the U.S.

I will only say this: I may walk the path of Richard Wurmbrand. I may walk the path of Todd Beamer. I will not walk the path of the Muslim or the path of the submissive dhimmi.

50 posted on 11/14/2006 6:09:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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