Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Blair - we must work with 'Axis of Evil' states
The Times of London ^ | 9/13/2006 | Philip Wester and Tom Baldwin

Posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:55 AM PST by Rutles4Ever

The first cracks in the united front over Iraq between Tony Blair and President Bush appeared last night as the Prime Minister offered Iran and Syria the prospect of dialogue over the future of Iraq and the Middle East.

Mr Blair said there could be a new “partnership” with Iran if it stopped supporting terrorism in Iraq and gave up its nuclear ambitions. Syria and Iran could choose partnership or isolation, he said.

The Prime Minister tried to exploit moves in Washington to rethink strategy on Iraq by holding out the prospect of engagement with two countries once dubbed by President Bush as part of the “axis of evil”. For the first time he also explicitly ruled out military action against Iran.

And, in words clearly directed at Mr Bush as he prepares for his final two years in power, Mr Blair called for the United States to lead a new drive towards peace in the Middle East, including peace in Palestine and the Lebanon, arguing that ultimately it was the only way to defeat al-Qaeda.

Downing Street denied suggestions that Mr Blair was going “cap in hand” to Damascus and Tehran asking for help and insisted that they were being told that they had to make a “strategic choice” between giving up support for terrorism and nuclear ambitions in return for being brought in from the cold.

It added that Mr Blair was repeating the message that he first gave in a speech in Los Angeles in July.

But, with Mr Blair speaking tomorrow to the Iraq Study Group, which is looking at alternative solutions for Iraq including involving its neighbours, his speech to the Lord Mayor’s banquet at Guildhall this evening was different in tone and suggested that he wants to capitalise on the new mood in Washington. Mr Bush has been opposed to talk with Iran.

Mr Blair said that Iran’s “genuine fear” that America sought a military solution was “entirely misplaced”. It did not, he said bluntly.

Mr Bush ducked any direct confrontation with Mr Blair, saying that he had not read the speech. But, in a White House press conference alongside Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, he gave warning against cracks appearing in the united front with which the West has approached Iran.

“I think it’s very important for the world to unite with one common voice to say to the Iranians that, if you choose to continue forward, you’ll be isolated,” Mr Bush said.

Although Robert Gates, the new US Defence Secretary, is also among those who have advocated a more open approach to Iran, Mr Bush said that the regime’s nuclear ambitions were a “threat to world peace” and went on to discuss the prospect of economic sanctions against the regime.

Mr Blair said that the choice for Iran was clear. “They help the Middle East peace process, not hinder it; they stop supporting terrorism in Lebanon or Iraq and they abide by, not flout, their international obligations. In that case, a new partnership is possible. Or, alternatively, they face the consequence of not doing so: isolation.”

The Prime Minister still hopes to persuade the US to engage fully in the Palestinian-Israeli peace process, but frustrated British diplomats in Washington say that the White House shows no real sign of being interested in the subject. Mr Bush yesterday said that he had discussed with Mr Olmert the two-state solution and the need for the Palestinian government to embrace the principles behind the road map for the Middle East peace process, but made it clear that their talks had focused on Iran and Iraq.

Earlier yesterday, Mr Bush met the Iraq Study Group, led by former Secretary of State James Baker, to discuss its imminent report charting a possible new course for Iraq. The President said that he would not “pre-judge” their findings while his spokesman emphasised that, despite Democrat control of Congress, Mr Bush remained commander-in-chief.

Senior Democrats have begun talking openly about the prospect of bringing troops home within six months, while others have urged the president to negotiate a diplomatic solution with Iraq’s neighbours.

But Mr Bush also had harsh words for Syria, a country with which, unlike Iran, the US has diplomatic relations. The President said that Syria should stop interfering in Lebanon and “harbouring extremists” and must begin helping “this young democracy in Iraq succeed”.

Imad Moustapha, the Syrian ambassador to the United States, said that his country was willing to engage with Britain and America.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: appease; appeasement; appeasers; blair; bootlickers; compromise; cracksmoker; jackboot; stockholmsyndrome; surrender; wot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
I know this was posted yesterday, but that was sourced from the NY Times, so it doesn't count.

This is a serious fracture. Blair, no doubt, took his cue from our tragic election that it was safe to jump back in the water of insanity with Bush essentially defeated. I suspect we're going to be hearing the same BS from France, Spain, Germany et al.

At any rate, the confluence of events in the past week, followed by this capitulation, portends a very bloody 2007 for the free world (or what's left of it).

1 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:57 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
The first cracks in the united front over Iraq between Tony Blair and President Bush appeared last night as the Prime Minister offered Iran and Syria the prospect of dialogue over the future of Iraq and the Middle East.

Have President Bush and Blair lost their minds? How do they think 'talking' with Iran and Syria is going to help us? They are THE ENEMY!!!!!

2 posted on 11/14/2006 6:12:09 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
Mr Blair called for the United States to lead a new drive towards peace in the Middle East, including peace in Palestine and the Lebanon, arguing that ultimately it was the only way to defeat al-Qaeda.

The "if we just give the Palestinians a state the Islamists will chill out" crowd is dangerously delusional.

3 posted on 11/14/2006 6:14:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
"there could be a new “partnership” with Iran if it stopped supporting terrorism in Iraq and gave up its nuclear ambitions"

But it won't. Next.

4 posted on 11/14/2006 6:17:08 AM PST by JasonC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lonevoice

ping


5 posted on 11/14/2006 6:19:00 AM PST by Pride in the USA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan
"Iran’s “genuine fear” that America sought a military solution was “entirely misplaced”."

Actually it is genuine confidence that American is politically incapable of pursuing a military solution. If Iran had any fear in the matter they might actually stop (though it is unlikely). Their pursuit of the means to incinerate millions of their enemies is not the result of any fear, but pure ambition and desire to see human beings cooked, wholesale.

6 posted on 11/14/2006 6:19:38 AM PST by JasonC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever



7 posted on 11/14/2006 6:26:38 AM PST by XR7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever

<< Blair - we must work with Axis of Evil states >>

Go to Hell, Blair! And take that damned horse with you.

(You Neo-Axis-co-founding bolshy bastard!)


8 posted on 11/14/2006 6:30:52 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever

This is a mistake. A very big mistake.


9 posted on 11/14/2006 6:37:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever

Fine. But don't expect us to bail you out when things go wrong.


10 posted on 11/14/2006 6:40:43 AM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JasonC

What's truly sad is that these developments are going to lead a lot of conservatives (like myself) to just throw up their hands, shut the doors, bar the windows, and let Europe deal with their coming nuclear holocaust/Islamic caliphate. We sent our young men and women over there to shed their blood for freedom's sak,e and this is what we get?


11 posted on 11/14/2006 6:51:38 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
You're being manipulated by the media. I saw Blair's speech on television. He basically said the same thing as he's always said - Iran and Syria have to live up to their obligations. If they don't, they're going to be frozen out.

Here's another take on exactly the same speech:

BLAIR: 'No softening' on Iran and Syria

I know it's oodles of fun to jump and down about them "dern foreigners" but hysteria is neither practical nor useful.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 11/14/2006 6:54:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever

Good luck with that, because, like, Iran and North Korea are such reasonable countries...


13 posted on 11/14/2006 6:55:19 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
What's truly sad is that these developments are going to lead a lot of conservatives (like myself) to just throw up their hands, shut the doors, bar the windows, and let Europe deal with their coming nuclear holocaust/Islamic caliphate.

Why is that sad? Nations rise and fall due to their own actions. Europe has chosen the path of slow suicide, and is unrepentently marching down it. I can't shed a tear for a culture that won't fight or f@%* to save itself. If they want to sit back and sneer at us in snotty superiority while their own gates are being beaten down, so be it.

14 posted on 11/14/2006 6:58:44 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: MadIvan
Blair: "Or, alternatively, they face the consequence of not doing so: isolation."

For what it's worth, this is one of them "dern foreign" newspapers reporting on the "not softening" of the policy to remove the deterrant of military action from the diplomatic equation.

For the past two years, the White House has stated clearly that "all options" are on the table with regard to Iran. If this doesn't undercut the White House, I don't know what does. Iran "living up to their obligations" means letting the U.N. back in to do their inspections. Whoop dee doo. That carries all the weight of a feather in a hurricane.

15 posted on 11/14/2006 7:01:29 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
The Times has been going off on a trip to la la land recently. This is not the first time it's spun events in this manner.

I would hasten to point out that Blair didn't say that military options were off the table. He said isolation was the first consequence.

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 11/14/2006 7:04:25 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Steel Wolf; MadIvan

It's sad because the U.K. is a great friend of the United States, and as much as conservatives in the U.K. are disappointed over our elections, I, as a conservative, am disappointed that the British government thinks the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a speeding train. It's not about "fereigners" or what-have-you. If Britain won't stand with us, then there's simply nothing we can do to help stem the tide. It's not a statement of emotion, it's a statement of the cold truth. We can't do this WOT alone. It's impossible.


17 posted on 11/14/2006 7:07:38 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

Blair said this or was it BJ Clinton?


18 posted on 11/14/2006 7:08:19 AM PST by Long Island Pete
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: MadIvan

Then I stand corrected. What's the general atmosphere in London? Would a detente with Iran and Syria have any legs with the population there?


19 posted on 11/14/2006 7:08:55 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: XR7
And here's a jolly pic of Rumsfeld appeasing Saddam. . . . . Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
20 posted on 11/14/2006 7:09:23 AM PST by AngloSaxonChristian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson