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Latest Totals In Hayworth-Mitchell Ballot Count(Mitchell's lead increases)
KPHO.com, AP ^ | November 13, 2006

Posted on 11/14/2006 8:19:28 AM PST by Dane

PHOENIX -- Democrat Harry Mitchell's lead over Republican Rep. J.D. Hayworth increased as elections officials continued to count ballots Monday in the 5th Congressional District race.

Mitchell had a total of 88,302 votes, or 50 percent. Hayworth had 82,485 votes, or 47 percent, according to the Secretary of State's office, which continues to compile early and provisional ballots.

Libertarian Warren Severin had 5,578 votes, or 3.2 percent.

The Associated Press called the race for Mitchell last Tuesday.

Hayworth has not conceded the race. Elections officials say it will take several days to finish counting the more than 100,000 ballots that remain.

Meanwhile, Mitchell continued to organize a congressional transition team as he spent a second day at an orientation session in Washington, D.C., for newly elected Democratic members of Congress.

Arizona's 5th District includes Scottsdale, Tempe and parts of Chandler, Mesa and Phoenix.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; daneshills4dems; elections; hayworth; immigrantlist; immigration; jdhayworth; mitchell
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The latest update.

Being on Imus and trashing President Bush, looks like it didn't help J.D. Hayowrth.

1 posted on 11/14/2006 8:19:30 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane

Looks like Arizona is goin' blue,thanks to the refugees from Kalifornia...and Mexicali.The same process is almost complete in NH...thanks to refugees that natives of the state refer to as "Massholes" (meaning the state's southern neighbor).


2 posted on 11/14/2006 8:23:36 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: All

JMO, seems like being a knee jerk loud mouth doesn't work.


3 posted on 11/14/2006 8:23:43 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes, it is frustrating to say the least.


4 posted on 11/14/2006 8:27:11 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '07--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Looks like Arizona is goin' blue,thanks to the refugees from Kalifornia...and Mexicali.The same process is almost complete in NH...thanks to refugees that natives of the state refer to as "Massholes" (meaning the state's southern neighbor).

Actually English as an official language passed overwhelmingly.

JMO, it seems that Airizona don't like xenophobic grandstanders, such as J.D. Hayowrth.

You also know that Hayworth's district is on a partisan political party basis is overwhelmingly GOP, by a 5-3 margin over the democrats.

5 posted on 11/14/2006 8:27:45 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
JMO, it seems that Airizona don't like xenophobic grandstanders, such as J.D. Hayowrth.

Call Hayworth xenophobic wouldn't mean that you oppose the enforcement of our immigration laws,would it?

6 posted on 11/14/2006 8:30:36 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Dane
"JMO, seems like being a knee jerk loud mouth doesn't work."

So keep at it until you find something that does work.

7 posted on 11/14/2006 8:30:52 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Dane
Elections officials say it will take several days to finish counting the more than 100,000 ballots that remain.

This race could still go either way. It's not over yet.

BTW, Dane, I've already asked on other threads, and you have refused to answer what constitutes "trashing" the president.

Please cite some specific things Hayworth has said that "trashes" the president.
8 posted on 11/14/2006 8:32:12 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Call Hayworth xenophobic wouldn't mean that you oppose the enforcement of our immigration laws,would it?

Uh, it is Hayworth who is losing, and he jumped on the Tancredo bandwagon.

9 posted on 11/14/2006 8:32:23 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
You also know that Hayworth's district is on a partisan political party basis is overwhelmingly GOP, by a 5-3 margin over the democrats.

Good, we should get back in 08.

10 posted on 11/14/2006 8:32:53 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Dane
Uh, it is Hayworth who is losing, and he jumped on the Tancredo bandwagon.

OK...but you still haven't answered my question.

11 posted on 11/14/2006 8:34:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Dane
Looks like JD's toasty. From what I've seen, he may be a bit overbearing but is probably mostly right on the issues. Just another one swept away by the blue tsunami. Didn't matter that he was trying to insulate himself from Bush. Or not. People were just voting against Rs this time around.

Trouble is, when all you do is vote against something, you sometimes end up with something worse (i.e., 'Rats).

12 posted on 11/14/2006 8:35:06 AM PST by chimera
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To: chimera
Looks like JD's toasty. From what I've seen, he may be a bit overbearing but is probably mostly right on the issues.

I agree with you about that, but J.D. was always willing to go on Imus's show and trash the President.

JMO, J.D. has found out about the concept of karma.

13 posted on 11/14/2006 8:38:22 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
being a knee jerk loud mouth doesn't work

Good job seeing the mote in Hayworth's eye.

14 posted on 11/14/2006 8:41:46 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: Dane
really, i read it was about 50/50 with massive devlopment and influx from calif. JD's opponent ran on a anti- illegal platform too . The key was G Soros and Moveon .org spent million on tv and radio . I was there for work it was unreal in Oct.
15 posted on 11/14/2006 8:45:50 AM PST by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: Dane
The entire theory presented by Dane and Chavez and a few others propagandizing this issue is a LIE.

Of the Republicans who lost in this election: only 6.7% of those losing were anti-immigration (in Tancredo's caucus)

34.9 % of those who lost, however, were pro-Amnesty and supported Bush's pro-Amnesty plan.

Conservative News conservativenewsnyc@yahoo.com

We have some very important information for you below. There is a ton of misinformation in the media, both by liberals (e.g. Pelosi) and neocons (e.g. Bill Kristol, Linda Chavez). They are being dishonest about the election and immigration. Every single exit poll shows that voters voted against Republicans in this election because (1) the war in Iraq (2) corruption and (3) (in some states) free trade

It had nothing to do with immigration. In fact, if the GOP had been more anti-immigration and did not have a President who cares more about amnesty than hard-working Americans, the GOP would have done better.

Of the Republicans who lost in this election: only 6.7% of those losing were anti-immigration (in Tancredo's caucus) 34.9 % of those who lost, however, were pro-Amnesty and supported Bush's pro-Amnesty plan. (These people received a grade of D or lower on their Immigration Report Cards)

16 posted on 11/14/2006 8:49:09 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: chimera

See post 16


17 posted on 11/14/2006 8:50:36 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Dane; Admin Moderator
Dane, your title is misleading. If you compare the "before" numbers from Nov. 9 with the "after" numbers from the article you linked, Hayworth has gained both in absolute votes (5817 now versus 5955 before) and percentage-wise (trailing by 3.3% now versus 4.2% before).
18 posted on 11/14/2006 8:56:01 AM PST by ruination
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To: BurtSB
really, i read it was about 50/50 with massive devlopment and influx from calif. JD's opponent ran on a anti- illegal platform too . The key was G Soros and Moveon .org spent million on tv and radio . I was there for work it was unreal in Oct.

LOL! According to the latest district results Hayworth's district on a two party registration basis, it is a 5-3 GOP advantage, but what the hey, try to defelect from Hayworth's loss by not stating the facts.

Oh, BTW, below is a link to one of J.D. Hayworth's political commercials. It points out his opponents "weaknesses" on immigration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFP6r1d4sU

19 posted on 11/14/2006 8:56:44 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I simply don't understand that. Why would you leave some place that is going to the dogs and then impose the same conditions that made your original home fall apart on your new residence?

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 11/14/2006 8:58:37 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Dane
According to the latest district results Hayworth's district on a two party registration basis, it is a 5-3 GOP advantage,

True to form, Dane, you and the likes of Chavez are avoiding the fact that Hayworth got muddied by the Abramoff scandal, and every pubbie tainted by scandal or corruption in this election went down.

Whereas Graf got sandbagged by the national party in the primary, and was not endorsed by the outgoing pubbie incumbent. So much for party loyalty. I'd say its that kind of crap that cost that seat - so is the national GOP interested in a majority? Or just seeking some murky centrism devoid of any core values?

21 posted on 11/14/2006 9:00:44 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
I don't know the specifics of the Hayworth race. I think whatever local factors there were going against him were overshadowed by national concerns, primary Iraq. People were just mad at Bush and since they could not vote against him, they took it out on surrogates, whether those surrogates trashed Bush or not. It was the "R" factor.

As to your other points:

Every single exit poll shows that voters voted against Republicans in this election because (1) the war in Iraq (2) corruption and (3) (in some states) free trade

In my state (OH), these were absolutely, positively true and on the mark. Iraq overlaid all of the political dynamic. The local 'Pubs had a tremendous taint of scandal, from the Governor to Congressmen (Bob Ney taking money from Abramoff), and lower-level bureaucrats lining their pockets with public funds. Finally, the continuing drag of lack of economic growth, partly perceived as the fault of trade agreements that have offshored a lot of the work that used to be done here, also plated a part. So I'd say your three points are three ringers.

22 posted on 11/14/2006 9:03:39 AM PST by chimera
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To: Gay State Conservative

We went blue too here in CO--Dem governor now and majority Dem U.S. Reps.


23 posted on 11/14/2006 9:06:54 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: rottndog
Elections officials say it will take several days to finish counting the more than 100,000 ballots that remain.

So the uncounted ballots out-number the total votes of either candidate, but in a district that leans 3-2 in favor of the GOP, a 2 percentage point lead by the democrat is considered insurmountable?

24 posted on 11/14/2006 9:11:24 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Dane

Actually, JD stated on the radio that his races always were tight. I doubt the margin is 5-3 in favor of Republicans.


25 posted on 11/14/2006 9:12:27 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: MadIvan
I simply don't understand that. Why would you leave some place that is going to the dogs and then impose the same conditions that made your original home fall apart on your new residence?

For some,they're not bright enough to make the connection between low taxes,low crime,etc and the fact that it's Republicans who have governed the state for "x" number of years (or decades).For others,they don't see themselves fleeing an area that's gone to the dogs.They feel guilty about living in a low tax state where criminals are punished rather than "counseled".

I don't know how your leftists are over there,but ours feel really good when tax rates are high....if they can find an accountant who can "massage" *their* tax returns.

26 posted on 11/14/2006 9:12:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Dane

Tancredo won and Hayworth is behind a candidate who was strident in his anti illegal immigration stance, as well.
If Hayworth loses, it won't be about immigration.


27 posted on 11/14/2006 9:12:40 AM PST by threeleftsmakearight
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To: Dane

Well.......all I have to say is, where can JD go for his next step, to keep our borders closed. He is one person that was working hard on that front, and I hope that there is still a place for him, to continue his fight.


28 posted on 11/14/2006 9:14:43 AM PST by marmar (Although, I may look different then you....my blood still runs....RED, WHITE, @ BLUE.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

This is what just frosts me. It happens all over the place. These rich, big city liberals move to the red states to "get back to a simpler way of life" then proceed to change the politics to what they just left. But the trouble is they drag all the locals into their liberal mess with them. Then when they have destroyed a community, they move on to the next trendy spot and do the same.


29 posted on 11/14/2006 9:15:54 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: Gay State Conservative
The only people who feel good about higher taxes, generally, are Liberals. Labour campaigned on the promise of keeping taxes low; they lied, of course, but they certainly weren't proud about it.

Regards, Ivan

30 posted on 11/14/2006 9:16:31 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: beaversmom
We went blue too here in CO--Dem governor now and majority Dem U.S. Reps.

Same in New Hampshire.Until a couple of years ago,their Governors were always Republicans as were both their Senators and both their Congressman.

Last Wednesday,it was evident that their RAT Governor was re-elected with something like 70% of the vote and both their House seats flipped from Republican to really,*really* left wing RATS.

And 95% of the damage in NH is the result of years of Massachusetts refugees.I have no trouble understanding why natives of NH refer to these refugees as "Massholes".

31 posted on 11/14/2006 9:19:54 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: rottndog

I suppose it depends on what the word "trashing" means...
Hayworth's book gutted the president on immigration.


32 posted on 11/14/2006 9:20:35 AM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: beckysueb

I hear ya,friend.I will,in the not too distant future,be fleeing the land of my birth for NC and,while there,won't vote for a *single* RAT.


33 posted on 11/14/2006 9:24:00 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: stylin19a

I'll bet Hayworth's book did so with facts and challenges to Bush's policies. That is not trashing.


34 posted on 11/14/2006 9:24:55 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Dane; WatchingInAmazement; Gay State Conservative; chimera; MadIvan
Uh, it is Hayworth who is losing, and he jumped on the Tancredo bandwagon.

But didn't he have some Abramoff baggage?

35 posted on 11/14/2006 9:25:07 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Well I'm really sorry to hear that the disease is spreading.


36 posted on 11/14/2006 9:28:46 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: MadIvan
I simply don't understand that. Why would you leave some place that is going to the dogs and then impose the same conditions that made your original home fall apart on your new residence?

Same thing happens in the suburbs People flee the democrat cities and still vote democratic

You can't battle INSANITY
37 posted on 11/14/2006 9:37:40 AM PST by uncbob
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To: rottndog
You decide:

Hayworth said that President Bush dances to a tune of big GOP contributors from the agribusiness, meat packing and construction industries who are "addicted" to a steady stream of workers from Mexico and Central America to keep wages down.
38 posted on 11/14/2006 9:59:53 AM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: stylin19a

Sounds like a statement of fact to me. I don't see anything in that paragraph that isn't true.


39 posted on 11/14/2006 10:02:23 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Dane

It's the economy, stupid.

What happened to that slogan? From the numbers I see on tv and on FR, the economy is supposedly doing just fine. However, how do those numbers translate to Joe and Susie with their two point five kids and overpriced house? Wasn't it really, really hot in Phoenix in August, September, and October? How much $$$$$ have Joe and Susie been shelling out to pay for power? And then there were those extraordinarily high gas prices during those really hot months.

I think there are some underlying factors in these races besides immigration and Iraq, though Iraq is a big negative to a lot of people. (I think Iraq was a big motivator for both sides to show up at the polls. Those who were not real thrilled with Iraq but not against it were more likely to stay home, imo.)


40 posted on 11/14/2006 10:14:24 AM PST by petitfour
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To: ruination

Thats correct the numbers I have seen show a gain for Hayworth who was losing on election night by about 7,500 votes. The gap has closed and I think he has better than a 50/50 chance of winning.


41 posted on 11/14/2006 10:14:29 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: rottndog
Like I said...depends on the definition of trashing.

Course, there's nothing there backing up that statement.

lame-duck presidents usually don't have to dance for anybody.

but why quibble.
42 posted on 11/14/2006 10:17:38 AM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: Dane

Have you seen any polls on the public's support of illegal immigration/open borders?


43 posted on 11/14/2006 1:13:17 PM PST by Texas Chilli
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To: BurtSB

Don't confuse anyone with the facts, please. :)

Do you know what the polls showed on American voter support for closing the borders in Arizona?


44 posted on 11/14/2006 1:17:12 PM PST by Texas Chilli
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To: Texas Chilli

no , please share ?


45 posted on 11/14/2006 6:09:41 PM PST by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: MadIvan
I simply don't understand that. Why would you leave some place that is going to the dogs and then impose the same conditions that made your original home fall apart on your new residence?

That is just what muslims are doing. They arrive here or in the U.K. and heave a sigh of relief that they have found freedom and prosperity compared to the hell hole they left under Islamic rule. Then they prepare to start the cycle of Islamic rule in their new location. They are never smart enough to comprehend that Islam is the cause of the problem. Volunteering to be the mobile bomb of the week ensures there is no cultural memory left behind to comprehend the cause and effect.

46 posted on 11/14/2006 6:31:20 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Dane
Well you got your wish, Dane. JD has apparently conceded.

go here

47 posted on 11/14/2006 6:50:47 PM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: hsmomx3; AHerald; Arizona Carolyn

See my post above.


48 posted on 11/14/2006 6:54:30 PM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: IrishRainy

Thanks. This is so depressing, he was a good congressman. If only he'd run for Governor instead... we'd still have him, I'm certain he would have won the state no problem.


49 posted on 11/14/2006 7:04:39 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dane

Hayworth conceded.


50 posted on 11/14/2006 7:07:32 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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