Skip to comments.San Francisco school board votes to dump JROTC program
Posted on 11/14/2006 11:40:21 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
After 90 years in San Francisco high schools, the [JROTC] must go, the S.F. school board decided Tuesday night.
The board voted 4-2 to eliminate the popular program, phasing it out over two years.
...JROTC cadets at the board meeting burst into tears or covered their faces after the votes were cast.
Their position was summed up by a former teacher, Nancy Mancias, who said, "We need to teach a curriculum of peace.''
The board's move to dismantle the popular program was led by board members Dan Kelly and [gay] Mark Sanchez with support from Sarah Lipson and Eric Mar...against it were Jill Wynns and Norman Yee. Board member Eddie Chin was absent.
"We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions," said Sandra Schwartz, of the American Friends Service Committee, an organization actively opposing JROTC nationwide. "In a healthy democracy ... You must contain the military."
Students, parents and school staff from each of the seven high schools converged outside the school board meeting carrying signs and waving at cars, some of which honked in support.
At least 100 cadets edged into Franklin Street waving their signs before being pushed back to the sidewalk by their ROTC instructors.
Yet, in the end, the effort -- one of several rallies in the last several weeks -- fell on deaf ears.
"This is where the kids feel safe, the one place they feel safe," Robert Powell, a JROTC instructor at Lincoln High School and a retired Army lieutenant colonel, said earlier in the evening. "You're going to take that away from them?"
Opponents acknowledged the program is popular and even helps some students stay in school and out of trouble.
"It's basically a branding program, or a recruiting program for the military," Kelly said before the meeting.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Newsom also said he believed the vote would push more city residents away from the public schools.
"You think this is going to help keep families in San Francisco?" the mayor added. "No. It's going to hurt."
Newsom talks out of both sides of his mouth. In an article in this morning's San Francisco Examiner -- a free tabloid with a more balanced editorial staff, but mostly loaded with wire stories -- there was this overlooked detail:
Board member Eddie Chin was absent.
Newsom said he was appreciative that the school board waited to take a vote on the controversial proposal until the election.
Because this would have been an attack on Nancy Pelosi and the quote-unquote values of San Francisco, Newsom said. And the cheap-shot artists like [Bill] OReilly and Fox would have exploited it.
That's funny...I am at this moment watching the waning minutes of the Board of Ed live on the SF Government's website, and Eddie Chin was there. He must have conveeeeniently been unavailable during the JROTC vote.
San Francisco Values in action. Have at us, O'Reilly.
I don't want to ever hear them calling for help from our military.
Sometimes the stupidity of people leaves me speechless Ping
The is person does not live in the real world.
San Francisco truly disgusts me. What a bunch of useless canon fodder!
A healthy democracy represses its military? Exactly how long is this clueless know-nothing expecting that healthful democracy to last?
"We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions," said Sandra Schwartz, of the American Friends Service Committee..."
Except, of course, for the times the military protects those institutions.
How do you ask a soldier to be the last one to die for a lie like San Francisco?
"In a healthy democracy ... You must contain the military."
Hmmm...and will she propose to contain the jihadis as well, or are they a more welcome component of a healthy democracy???
Nothing seems to amaze me anymore.
Would have been a good object lesson, after all.
My grandparants purchase of that first house made three generations of our family, financially. I have a picture of it, in my office.
Now, I am not sure if SF is still part of the US.
"We need to teach a curriculum of peace.''
And in the backround is that hippy song..."come to San Francisco with flowers in your hair..."
I really wish we could send scum like this to the middle east and let them see how long they'd last with the "peaceful" terrorists.
This isn't stupidity. This is pure evil.
L.N. Smithee regrets the error. And that he has to call himself the product of San Francisco public schools.
I've seen JROTC cadets around San Fran and they are almost exclusively Chinese and Hispanic kids, and are very enthusiastic about what they're doing. It gets results, gets kids off their rear ends and out of the house. The supes killed one of the few school programs in the city that actually has a positive effect. If they changed the name from JROTC to the Union of Communist Youth they'd probably agree to keep it around.
Just recently, perhaps this week, Cindy Shewitch said "Freedom isn't free was wrong, and if freedom is free, or the would call it expensivedom"
and our new House Leader Nancy Pelosi is a SF Lib/Dem. Way to go America, that a way to get out the vote....you reap what you sow....live with it sideliners.
This country, like the rest of the west, is in deep SH_T!
I'm sure the school board would rather teach the curriculum of Islam instead
These people are really rotten.
Earlier, Mayor Gavin Newsom weighed in on the debate, chastising the board for the effort to eliminate JROTC. A budget analysis found that the district could hire nine teachers with the money the district now spends on JROTC
Let's see, that $980,000, for 9 teachers. Let's not teach the kids about sacrificing for others, let's teach them about greedy unions.
RE: "disrespecting the sacrifice of men and women in [U.S. uniforms]."
Enemy uniforms is another matter.
A search of the article found just one reference to Dan Kelly. No mention of Dan Kelley being jailed for war resistance during the Vietnam War.
Ah yes, "war resistance." I remember, read:
"Ho! Ho! Ho Chi Minh! The FLN is sure to win!"
"Hey, hey! LBJ. How many babies did you kill today?"
"Bring it all down, man."
. . . and all the lies that one John Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
"Those who can, do. Those who can't..."
The US government needs to cut off ALL federal funding to SF, and I don't just mean to the schools...
The Republicans will take it all in 2008. The Libs just can't help themselves from overheating now that they have aquired POWER.
We will see this thing all over, with other school boards doing their "Me too!" rush to be the most hateful towards those who protect their right to be assholes.
Could you please elaborate why you have included France in your list?
So San Francisco is a city of lower value because they differ on several issues with you or the President? I also find this decision strange, but the US is still a country that respects other opinions/decisions. The school board was democratic elected, and its decisions have to be respected by the federal level. Now if the people of SF wanted to something, fine - but the state and DC have to stay out of this.
What kind of thinking do you have? Federal funding and protection only for those who support the President? State funding and protection only for those who support the Gouvernor? Are you sure you support the Union of the United States and the Republic?
Fleet days should be ended for SF, immediately!!!
I beg to differ, having come across these reactions to Fleet Week in San Francisco (thanks to opinionjournal.com's Best of the Web):
Even if it's only the Blue Angels, maybe every week, then, should be Fleet Week. ;)
Zinger of the month.
Maybe we should all email this 'board' instructions on how to construct white flags and how not to piss off ruthless invaders (like when they are looting/raping/burning...).
Their winning of the 'Terrorists Nuclear Sacrificial Target City' is assured for another year.
When is the "Big One" due?
Easy solution: cancel Fleet Week.
They are in their own world out there. I suppose they expect the children of the rest of the country to protect them while they live in their degenerate fantasy land.
I hope N. Korea's nukes are aimed at this city....... shameful place.
I attended my fifty year reunion at my high school some years ago and talked to some of the boys in ROTC and they were enthusiastic about it. But the ROTC training I had did not make me a better soldier at all.
So much for separation of Church and State.
Nancy Mancias is a leader in Code Pink. Chalk up another win for them.
The people in San Francisco who voted this way and talked the way they did about a "culture of peace", and the ROTC ruinging their civilian education programs are clueless as to what their freedom costs and the importance of providing such a path for those who choose to step forward and put their lives on the line so these idiots can continue to live in the dream world they have created for themselves.
If they continue on this path, they or their children or grandchildren will one day discover to their shame and horror just how critical the availability of this path is.
God have mercy on them.
Time for the MSM to step up and get Pelosi on record as either for or against the School Board action.
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