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Toys for Tots Are Taking the Dolls
Nov 15, 2006 | Irisshlass

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:24:38 AM PST by Irisshlass

I received an email from Major Bill Grein, USMC (Ret). He has contacted David Socha of Blessed Toys, and asked him to send the dolls to Toys for Tots. He said they will find a place for every doll.

I posted this orginally last night in the thread Dolls Rejected, but posters missed reading it.

Good job to all those that emailed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christmas; jesus; marines; toys; toysfortots
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1 posted on 11/15/2006 7:24:38 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

Wondeful news!

Jesus is the reason for the season!


2 posted on 11/15/2006 7:26:49 AM PST by airborne (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!)
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To: Irisshlass
See, I knew there had to be an intelligent way to handle this.


Now, all that being said, I personally think a talking Jesus doll could be kind of tacky. But they weren't refusing it because it was tacky, they were refusing it because it was symbolic of one particular religion - so, fine, advertise it as a CHRISTmas gift!
3 posted on 11/15/2006 7:28:29 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Irisshlass

Why would someone give away a "Talking Jesus Doll". This is very very sad. I don't think Jesus would approve.


4 posted on 11/15/2006 7:35:47 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

Really? Why wouldn't He approve?


5 posted on 11/15/2006 7:37:20 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: bahblahbah

Right. He'd rather have them sell it for a hefty profit, since Capitalism is all good....

/sarc

(btw, I think the doll sounds kinda tacky)


6 posted on 11/15/2006 7:37:40 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

What is tacky about it?


7 posted on 11/15/2006 7:40:00 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
If you even have to ask that question then you're probably going to hell.

I hope they pack in a set of these.


8 posted on 11/15/2006 7:41:42 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Irisshlass

MADE IN CHINA bump!


9 posted on 11/15/2006 7:42:20 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: bahblahbah

Who are you to make judgements like that? Who am I talking to? Do you think you are God?


10 posted on 11/15/2006 7:44:11 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: HostileTerritory
Everything is made in China since the Republican and your Demoncrat pals sold us out with Nafta and Gatt.
11 posted on 11/15/2006 7:46:21 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
Really? Why wouldn't He approve?

Why would he?

12 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:19 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Irisshlass
"Who are you to make judgements like that? Who am I talking to? Do you think you are God?"

I very much have the right to make judgments against people that I as an evangelical Christian will be associated with. Paul had a lot to say about that. The "Talking Jesus Doll" represents everything wrong with modern evangelicalism. The "Talking Jesus Doll" is more a threat to the minds of a Christian child than Halloween, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, and Hairy Potter combined.(I personally those things don't matter to me) Jesus is the savior of the world, not some talking toy. Why do you God originally had "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above" in the 10 commandments. It is because it cheapens everything Jesus did. The reason for the 3rd commandment about not using the lords name in vain is because it cheapens God.

Start reading your bibles and stop trying to pimp Jesus.
13 posted on 11/15/2006 7:50:57 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: agrarianlady

You answered a question with a question. So why is it you think He wouldn't approve, since you speak for Christ.


14 posted on 11/15/2006 7:51:09 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: bahblahbah

I typed that in haste, so some things might seem out of place...


15 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:09 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

How 'bout the Mormon secret underwear?


16 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:37 AM PST by jrg
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To: Irisshlass

MADE IN CHINA bump!


17 posted on 11/15/2006 7:54:33 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: bahblahbah
Your nick suits you well. Realistically you sound like a card carrying member of the ACLU. You are the type of person that can't stand the thoughts of children being introduced to Christ even if it is through a talking doll that quotes scripture. As Christ said, the little ones are his favorites. And how do you know this is not His way of reaching out to those children that would never know Him otherwise.
18 posted on 11/15/2006 7:56:29 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: jrg

You're the only one that would know about someone's secret underwear.


19 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:23 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Jesus Christ
Jesus whoops the merchants in the temple court.

20 posted on 11/15/2006 7:59:44 AM PST by evets (Beer)
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To: Irisshlass

"Your nick suits you well. Realistically you sound like a card carrying member of the ACLU. You are the type of person that can't stand the thoughts of children being introduced to Christ even if it is through a talking doll that quotes scripture. As Christ said, the little ones are his favorites. And how do you know this is not His way of reaching out to those children that would never know Him otherwise."

I remember being a little kid. Talking dolls are not fun, especially one's that are trying to preach to me. A talking doll will cheapen the message Christ spoke.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 8:03:19 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Irisshlass

Ok. And then you have to answer why He *would* approve.

1. Because he thew the money-changers out of the temple. He's a non-profit enterprise.
2. Because He knows Himself to be HOLY. That means set apart. Making a caricature of him is not respectful or reverent.
3. Because my little children can recite whole chapters of scripture by memory. (And it was simple for them to learn them). They don't need a Jesus doll to help them learn the Word of God.
4. Because I want my child to think right thoughts about God. That's what the word "Theology" means. Making Him into a smiling doll might affect their views of Him as omnipowerful and omniscient. I want them to talk to the real Jesus, not to a doll.


22 posted on 11/15/2006 8:04:29 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Irisshlass

what I don't get is why they were worried about offending mooselimbs or other religions. what would non-christians be celebrating Christmas for any way?


23 posted on 11/15/2006 8:05:28 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: evets

What does that have to do with the dolls that were donated?


24 posted on 11/15/2006 8:06:08 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: bahblahbah

I agree. I certainly don't remember venerating "The cow says... MOO" and I don't expect children to take this doll as seriously as Christ merits. To see this as an act of good works, and a way to bring children into Christ, could be seen as a sign of carelessness and poor understanding of how children interact with toys. Certainly thrusting this toy into the hands of random children is not a substitute for actually communicating with people about Christ's message, and I have to question people who feel good about defending this behavior.


25 posted on 11/15/2006 8:06:28 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Irisshlass

There's also a toy Moses who runs through the ten commandments, one at a time. It's packaged as if it's a teaching tool for small children.


26 posted on 11/15/2006 8:06:49 AM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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To: bahblahbah

I'm sorry your mom made you play with dolls when you were little. LOL


27 posted on 11/15/2006 8:07:28 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Rakkasan1
what would non-christians be celebrating Christmas for any way?

Honestly? The toys. And that's what Toys For Tots provides.

Plenty of non-Christians celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday with a cast of characters including Santa and Rudolf. It seems as if Jews and anti-consumerist pagans are the only Americans who explicitly opt out.
28 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:36 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Rakkasan1

Right!


29 posted on 11/15/2006 8:09:20 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Ilky Hucktar

"There's also a toy Moses who runs through the ten commandments, one at a time. It's packaged as if it's a teaching tool for small children."

I don't have as nearly much of a problem with that as the "Talking Jesus". I would only like it used in a bible school type setting and not just letting the kid go play with it.


30 posted on 11/15/2006 8:10:15 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Ilky Hucktar

So what is wrong with children learning the Ten Commandments?


31 posted on 11/15/2006 8:10:52 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
So what is wrong with children learning the Ten Commandments?

Which ones, Catholic or Protestant?
32 posted on 11/15/2006 8:11:23 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: jrg

Now that's just "dum,dum,dum,dum,dum" (obscure South Park reference...)


33 posted on 11/15/2006 8:16:57 AM PST by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: agrarianlady

Let me jump in here for a moment. Hey AL - since you say you know scripture, do you remember Jesus telling his disciples to spread the word? Do you remember the part about how to treat those who do not accept the word? Did He say beat them over the word with His word until they accept it? No! Remember the concept of free will?


34 posted on 11/15/2006 8:17:05 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: agrarianlady
Well it is great that you have taught your children about Christ and what He stands for. But the whole point of Toys for Tots is to give to the unfortunate and possibly as I have said before this may be Christ's way of reaching just one of his little ones. Would you rather they be getting a talking satan doll?

I don't understand about the moneychangers, this is a nonprofit organization.

And as far as the likenesses of Christ, then you are saying that the pictures of Christ in the Bible should be taken out.
35 posted on 11/15/2006 8:21:09 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

Nothing.


36 posted on 11/15/2006 8:24:46 AM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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To: 7thson

There is no such thing as free will.


37 posted on 11/15/2006 8:28:52 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Irisshlass

They should. It violates the commandment against graven images.


38 posted on 11/15/2006 8:29:27 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: evets

DOWN GOES CAIAPHUS! DOWN GOES CAIAPHUS! DOWN GOES CAIAPHUS!


39 posted on 11/15/2006 8:32:19 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bahblahbah

Those rock! Can I get a set in Adult 2XL?


40 posted on 11/15/2006 8:34:07 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: agrarianlady

I'm asssuming you don't like Veggi-tales either then?


41 posted on 11/15/2006 8:35:00 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: rwfromkansas

Please explain.


42 posted on 11/15/2006 8:36:03 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: HostileTerritory

I really don't see a difference. Origen and Augustine were both catholics considered to be Saints.


43 posted on 11/15/2006 8:36:05 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: bahblahbah

I guess my point was that it didn't seem to be a "play" toy.


44 posted on 11/15/2006 8:37:25 AM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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To: olivia3boys

There's a big different between Veggi-tales and a talking jesus doll.


45 posted on 11/15/2006 8:37:32 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: 7thson

Everything we do is part of God's plan.

We aren't robots, but our will is enslaved to sin until God sets us free when he saves us.


46 posted on 11/15/2006 8:39:39 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

That Commandment speaks to the worship of idols, such as the golden calf, etc. Do you really think Christ would mind an image of Him being introduced to young children. Would you rather have given them a talking cow or a hairy potter doll teaching them witchcraft?


47 posted on 11/15/2006 8:41:13 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Ilky Hucktar; Irisshlass
A plastic image of Moses who railed against graven images. (Second Commandment) I would almost be tempted to buy one for the irony alone.
48 posted on 11/15/2006 8:43:04 AM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: Irisshlass

Good work!


49 posted on 11/15/2006 8:53:49 AM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: onedoug

ping


50 posted on 11/15/2006 9:15:24 AM PST by windcliff
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