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FEMA emergency homes destroyed by the elements (UNUSED trailers)
AP ^ | November 15, 2006

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:40 AM PST by FourPeas

NEW ORLEANS Hundreds of modular homes meant for hurricane victims were damaged beyond repair while unused and unprotected from weather.The Federal Emergency Management Agency bought the homes as emergency housing for victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.Katrina slammed the Gulf coast in August of 2005.Rita came ashore in southeast Texas the following month.The failure to protect the homes from the sun and rain while they were in storage was outlined in a report by the Homeland Security Department's inspector general.FEMA says many sat unused for months at an Army depot in Texarkana, Texas, because of restrictions on where such homes could be erected.A June inventory had nearly 18-hundred homes at the site.FEMA put the total damage to homes both salvageable and unsalvageable at five (M) million dollars.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: katrina; rita
Remember the scary words: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help?"
1 posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:41 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas

Abolish FEMA. It's every man for himself.


2 posted on 11/15/2006 7:45:42 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: FourPeas
The Federal Emergency Management Agency bought the homes ...

Uh, who bought those homes?

3 posted on 11/15/2006 7:48:16 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: FourPeas

Your tax dollars at w...


5 posted on 11/15/2006 7:50:12 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: FourPeas

5 million dollars. More than 500 Americans taxes for an entire year wasted.


6 posted on 11/15/2006 7:52:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: FourPeas

How does a mobile home get destroyed by the weather in a little over a year?


7 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:23 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill

Tornado? (Mater: I'm happier than a tornado in a trailer park.)


8 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:32 AM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: tobyhill

Double-wides?


9 posted on 11/15/2006 8:00:19 AM PST by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: rightinthemiddle

None of these come with a warrenty? I guess they dont make trailer homes like they used to. Katrina wasn't that long ago. How can they be so damaged by rain and sun in that short of a time period? I was under the impression trailor homes were built to be outside. They can't be that damaged.


10 posted on 11/15/2006 8:00:31 AM PST by glymers
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To: glymers

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

Houses that can't be kept outside?


11 posted on 11/15/2006 8:01:12 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: FourPeas

This beyond stupid, especially if they were those modular homes that were being distributed by Lowes. They were great looking houses.

Louisiana couldn't get past the red-taped bureaucracy enough to give people the houses. The whole state can stop whining now. I don't want to hear about the poor "victims" who were left homeless.


12 posted on 11/15/2006 8:02:12 AM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: FourPeas
failure to protect the homes from the sun and rain while they were in storage

You mean these "homes" can't handle sun and rain and they were going to be used in Louisiana?

13 posted on 11/15/2006 8:02:36 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: tobyhill

You read it the same way I did. The darn things were built for outdoors weren't they? So how could not protecting them from sun and weather be a bad thing? Sure would make storage expensive if homes had to be stored indoors.

The article also mentioned "modular", which in my world, is a step up from mobile in construction and materials. I'm lost, and the next subject is the idiocy involved in not using them in the first place instead of arguing the disaster possibilities of having them in use in the south.


14 posted on 11/15/2006 8:02:39 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: sportutegrl

That many trailer homes put together would be a huge tornado magnet.


15 posted on 11/15/2006 8:02:55 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: sportutegrl

If it's a cheap piece of crap lowest bidder government mobile home.


16 posted on 11/15/2006 8:04:06 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: sportutegrl

"Tornado? (Mater: I'm happier than a tornado in a trailer park.)"

At least read the article lead-in. "The failure to protect the homes from the sun and rain while they were in storage...." The builders of these trailers should be investigated. I've built birdhouses that lasted for years. Why can't a professionally-built trailer last more than a year?


17 posted on 11/15/2006 8:04:48 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: FourPeas
Hundreds of modular homes meant for hurricane victims were damaged beyond repair while unused and unprotected from weather

It's a good thing no one was in any of them.

18 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:03 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Wonder what they will do with these homes now? They could give them away to the really needy people who are more appreciative. I am sure someone would love to have a new trailer home. I have 5 acres in 2 different states that could use a home or 2 on them. I would be very appreciative of the contribution. lol


19 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:46 AM PST by glymers
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To: FourPeas
...failure to protect the homes from the sun and rain

OH NO!!! SUN AND RAIN!!!
20 posted on 11/15/2006 8:09:00 AM PST by evets (Beer)
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To: Kirkwood

This sounds like some Democrat has figured a way to "condemn" these homes then sell them for a tidy profit.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 8:10:07 AM PST by GoDuke
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To: Right Wing Assault

These are shipped in two pieces. Until they are installed, the interior is only protected by a sheet of plastic.


22 posted on 11/15/2006 8:11:21 AM PST by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

If these are modular homes, they come in 2 sections, one side would be open and covered only with plastic. They don't get put together until set on property and closed up. It is most possible that they were damaged by sun and rain.


23 posted on 11/15/2006 8:11:26 AM PST by myrabach
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To: FourPeas

We used to drive by that storage lot when traveling back and forth to Houston. My husband predicted this.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 8:11:47 AM PST by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: MediaMole

hehehe... beat me to it!


25 posted on 11/15/2006 8:12:31 AM PST by myrabach
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To: tobyhill
These were modulars and I would bet they were not put together.

I will never forget the big quake out here and the Governor suspending all the red tape bs to get the freeways repaired and rebuilt in record time.

The darn homes were for temporary housing, it's not like they were going to be at a particular place permanently so what's with the regulations and power mad idiots with their 'we won't let you put it here, or there, or over there, and certainly not at that spot'

26 posted on 11/15/2006 8:14:08 AM PST by Ruth C
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To: wita
I believe these were modular homes in two separate pieces. Since they were not used they were stored as two separate pieces. Normally these things are shipped from the factory to be set up quickly an only have light plastic sheeting to protect the exposed (unattached) side. You probably have seen them being towed down the highway. The failure was in storing them with only the sheeting and/or in not maintaining tarps used as additional protection in some cases.
27 posted on 11/15/2006 8:14:53 AM PST by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: madison10
"The whole state can stop whining now. I don't want to hear about the poor "victims" who were left homeless."

Some are indeed victims multiple times over. They were lied to by the ACE who said the levees were built correctly to specs (they weren't). They were lied to by their insurance companies who said they were covered for disasters (and then argued that the owner didn't have the right coverage). They were lied to by the state who said recovery money was coming (and somehow it has gotten lost). They were lied to by FEMA who said they could handle a major disaster (and were totally overwhelmed to the point that over a year later, some people still on FEMA lists haven't been helped). They were lied to by out-of-state contractors who did half the job and then left the state with the money they stole. I could go on and on. It is hard not to feel like a victim when you are drowning in a bureaucracy of red tape and companies are trying to screw you out of every last dime you have.
28 posted on 11/15/2006 8:17:08 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: glymers

I need a home right now, i'd take one, but not one that can't be outside. I need a place that can be left outside in the sun and the rain.


29 posted on 11/15/2006 8:17:54 AM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his, Song of Sol 2:16)
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To: All
Here's a more thorough description of the damaged modular homes, courtesy of the Department of Homeland Security. These do not appear to be trailers (note language distinguishing modular homes from "mobile" homes):

DHS Damaged Property Report, Oct 2006

30 posted on 11/15/2006 8:18:03 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: glymers

I doubt they are that damaged. I certainly don't see it being anything that can't be fixed. We have rental property and some of our houses are refurbished mobile homes. They can be very nice and are often far better and safer than older homes that are bought for rental property.

I would like to know who is claiming them to be too damaged to use and what their expertise is.


31 posted on 11/15/2006 8:18:19 AM PST by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: myrabach

Where were the plastic patrol and what were they doing to protect the homes?
Modular houses are built in controlled environments under the factory roof and are shipped in weather-proofed wrapping. Guess they forgot to use the weather Proofed Wrap.


32 posted on 11/15/2006 8:20:57 AM PST by glymers
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To: Kirkwood
Then it's more the State of Louisiana's and the various parishes that are messing with the people. So when is the STATE going to reimburse the Federal Government and/or put those people in homes?

Did William Jefferson, D-Louisiana, get reelected?
33 posted on 11/15/2006 8:21:03 AM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: tobyhill
I heard they were sitting in mud , lots of mud. But that shouldn't ruin them. I think its more BS. My friend bought a trailer that had 2 feet of mud in it. Cleaned it up, put new fridge in it and uses it all summer. Unless they were vandalized or hit by tornado's or in high flood waters why should they be ruined? Why were they not used or stored in a safe place is my question. If there is damage repair them, give them to whoever needs them or sell them as is.
34 posted on 11/15/2006 8:24:31 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: GoDuke

"this sounds like some Democrat has figured a way to "condemn" these homes then sell them for a tidy profit."

That's what I was thinking. I wonder what they consider to be "too damaged" to use. We had two rental mobiles make it through hurricane Rita. They needed repairs but nothing major. Of course they weren't hit directly by the storm, but still survived 100+ mph winds and bickets of rain.


35 posted on 11/15/2006 8:26:21 AM PST by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

bickets=buckets (spellcheck is my friend)


36 posted on 11/15/2006 8:30:25 AM PST by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: pandoraou812

The floors can get ruined and I know because I went to visit a friend who lived in a mobile home and I went to use the restroom but fell through the floor right in front of the toilet. He fixed that whole a couple days later with a $15 piece of plywood.


37 posted on 11/15/2006 8:35:41 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill

Wow that must have been a surprise for you. My point is they usually can be fixed and your friend fixed the problem he had. It bothers me that they are sitting there just rotting.


38 posted on 11/15/2006 8:43:52 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Charles Martel

I get a 404 Page Not Fount at that link.


39 posted on 11/15/2006 8:46:15 AM PST by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: FourPeas

Mobile homes are MADE to sit outside in the sun and rain. They are not the most durable things in the world, but they are supposed to be out in the weather and should last for quite a few years before much maintenance is needed.

Only a FEMA bureaucrat could figure out a way to wreck them so quickly. I wonder how in hell they managed it? Left all the windows and doors open? Set them down in the mud? I hate to think.


40 posted on 11/15/2006 8:52:17 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pandoraou812

You're right they shouldn't be sitting there getting damaged in any way but to mark them off as total losses is a bit exaggerated.


41 posted on 11/15/2006 8:54:09 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: FourPeas
Try looking at TrimarroHomes.com; that's the manufacturer mentioned by DHS in connection with the damaged homes. FEMA purchased from several other manufacturers, too - the others seems to have been adequately sealed against the elements.
42 posted on 11/15/2006 9:07:26 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: FourPeas

On the DHS webpage, type "modular" in the search blank. Scroll down three or four to the .pdf titled "Administrative report..."


43 posted on 11/15/2006 9:11:40 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel; All
Thank you, Charles.

Here is the information from DHS:

The Trimarro modular homes, however, have not been adequately protected from the weather during storage and have suffered significant damage. FEMA purchased “Pre-Fab Homes” from Trimarro Homes, Inc. of Dyersville, Iowa, for $5,415,0001. Unlike the Quick Quarters and the Cogim units, the Trimarro homes did not have protective containers. The torn and deteriorating remnants of tarps that we observed on the Trimarro units suggest they were once covered, but, at the time of our visit, they were uncovered and exposed to the weather. New staff have taken over the operation of the Texarkana site and were trying to cover the modular homes with tarps. FEMA officials advised us that tarps have been replaced several times because temperatures at Texarkana often exceed 100 degrees and the UV sunrays and rain had destroyed the tarps. However, the damage has already been done. The cardboard containers for the components, such as toilets and fittings, have deteriorated in the open weather and some of the framing and wood components of the structures have warped and may not be salvagable. In addition, the contents and components of some of the modular homes were disordered and re-sorting the components to form complete units may be necessary. FEMA officials said that the disorderliness was due to the manufacturer’s packaging. They said that neither a manufacturer’s representative nor a FEMA contracting official was present during the delivery of the components.

Many of the Trimarro modular homes were damaged beyond economical repair and will have to be written-off. In discussions with FEMA logistics officials, they concurred with our assessment and estimated that only about 75% of the Trimarro modular homes can still be used, which would translate into approximately $1.25 to $1.5 million worth of Trimarro modular homes lost to damage during storage.

The DuraKit modular homes were also damaged. FEMA purchased “Pre-Fab homes” from DuraKit Shelters of Bradford, Ontario, Canada for $13,005,000.2 Although more tightly packaged than the Trimarro homes, the DuraKit homes were not shipped in protective containers. The DuraKit homes were once covered with tarps, which have since deteriorated and blown off, leaving the units exposed to the weather and susceptible to damage. The extent of the damage and suitability for repairs will become clear when the homes are assembled. On July 27, 2006, FEMA logistics officials estimated that 85% of the DuraKit modular homes can still be used. Thus, FEMA may have lost about $1.75 to $2.0 million worth of DuraKit modular homes to damage during storage.

FEMA’s modular homes were not properly protected, as we recommended, and as a consequence, the losses may amount to $3 to $4 million. FEMA officials correctly pointed out that loss estimates are speculative until the construction of the homes is attempted. FEMA logistics officials told us that most modular home units are shipped with the expectation that they will be assembled when they arrive at their destination. Once they are assembled, the structure of the home protects the components from the elements. FEMA logistics officials told us that storing the units outside, covered with tarps, was not effective, especially with the storms, rain, and flooding that Texarkana has experienced while the modular homes were stored there.

44 posted on 11/15/2006 9:18:10 AM PST by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: glymers

That wrap is not meant to be a permanent solution! It will last some time, but not forever.

There are lots of reasons why these homes just stood empty and that's a shame. Government, state, local, federal, all of them, seem to do a great job of wasting our hard earned tax dollars.


45 posted on 11/15/2006 1:24:21 PM PST by myrabach
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To: myrabach

"If these are modular homes, they come in 2 sections, one side would be open and covered only with plastic. They don't get put together until set on property and closed up. It is most possible that they were damaged by sun and rain."

You're right on the money. I saw a report on the news and that's exactly what happened.


46 posted on 11/15/2006 3:10:02 PM PST by Mila
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To: Kirkwood

I just wanted an excuse to use the line from the movie, Cars. The kids have been playing the video here non stop.


47 posted on 11/16/2006 4:07:35 AM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: FourPeas

They are selling them now on www.gsaauctions.gov for the amazing bid of $752,000 they are posted as item #71FMPI07275001 in Texas. Amazing!


48 posted on 04/17/2007 4:37:09 PM PDT by dulcevida
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