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Posted on 11/15/2006 1:14:21 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Conservative Democrats seek larger role

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer 24 minutes ago

For a dozen years, the Democratic conservatives known as Blue Dogs have been baying at the moon, ignored by Republicans and tolerated by their more liberal Democratic colleagues. Now, these House lawmakers say that is about to change.

Republicans "did not lose their seats to liberal Democrats" in last weeks elections, said Rep. Mike Ross (news, bio, voting record), D-Ark. "Republicans lost their seats to Blue Dog Democrats."

"We'll have a lot to say about what passes and what doesn't" when the 110th Congress convenes in January with Democrats in control for the first time in 12 years, said Ross, new communications director for the caucus.

With the addition of nine newly elected freshmen, the Blue Dogs claim 44 members, nearly 20 percent of the incoming Democratic majority. They will be led by Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla., and include Rep. Collin Peterson (news, bio, voting record), D-Minn., in line to become the next Agriculture Committee chairman.

The Blue Dogs were formed in 1994 after Republicans swept the long-entrenched Democrats from power. They tend to be social conservatives on such issues as abortion. But their big issue is fiscal discipline — balancing the budget and reducing the federal debt.

Many in the group are from the South, and the group took its name from the old adage that southerners would vote for yellow dog if he were on the Democratic ballot. A blue dog, they decided, was a moderate or conservative "choked blue" by the Democrats in the years leading up to 1994.

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KEYWORDS: beholdentopelosi; fraud; phonies
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1 posted on 11/15/2006 1:14:23 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

LOL! They will vote the radical leftist pelosi line.


2 posted on 11/15/2006 1:16:25 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Sub-Driver

There's always hope.


3 posted on 11/15/2006 1:16:43 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hate to say it Mike, but here's what'll happen to you:

Pelosi will push you in the closet;

Let you out when she needs your vote;

Instruct you on how to vote;

Remove you from your committee position if you do differently then she wants.

She's already doing that, i.e. Jane Harmon.


4 posted on 11/15/2006 1:16:48 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Sub-Driver

This will go nowhere, dudes.

There is a party purge underway of any democrat to the left of Stalin by DailyKos, George Soros and MoveOn.Org.


5 posted on 11/15/2006 1:17:40 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Sub-Driver

"Even though I think it's total crap, I'll vote for it and pass it because that's what Nancy wants," Murtha told the Blue Dogs,


6 posted on 11/15/2006 1:18:03 PM PST by digger48 (there went breakfast)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'm sure Blue Dogs are offended everywhere.


7 posted on 11/15/2006 1:18:31 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Dane

Yep...back of the bus time for them. They got elected, have to vote for the leadership, and that's that.


8 posted on 11/15/2006 1:20:05 PM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Sub-Driver

9 posted on 11/15/2006 1:20:21 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (The default mode of the heart is set for Drift.)
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To: Sub-Driver

"We'll have a lot to say about what passes and what doesn't" when the 110th Congress convenes in January with Democrats in control for the first time in 12 years, said Ross, new communications director for the caucus.

...you'll say what Mama Pelosi tells you to say! Now go lie down, remove the circuitry from your head and let it rest. Then wait for further instructions.


10 posted on 11/15/2006 1:20:24 PM PST by albie
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To: Sub-Driver

If they want a larger role, and they are truly conservative, then there is a simple solution... Instead of voting for Nancy as Speaker, join with the GOP in voting for Pence.

The Dems don't have too many votes to spare. 6 crossovers would do it.

Now we'll see what these "conservative" Democrats are really made of.


11 posted on 11/15/2006 1:20:55 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver
nearly 20 percent of the incoming Democratic majority.

I'm sure the more than 80% are quaking in their boots. It was easy to declare how pure and principled they were while the party was a minority. Let's see how things work when party loyalty comes first.

12 posted on 11/15/2006 1:21:23 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Sub-Driver
The LIB RATS dug the blue-dogs up to run so they could win.

They'll use them like they use the black voters...just when they need them - otherwise they don't count for anything.

We'll see how much moxie these blue-dogs have!! They could team up with the Pubs and give Pelosi fits!!

13 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:29 PM PST by LADY J
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To: Sub-Driver

Rotsa Ruck.


14 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:33 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: Sub-Driver

I really do think they will team up the GOP and get some stuff passed, just as happened during Reagan's tenure.


15 posted on 11/15/2006 1:24:56 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Sub-Driver
They tend to be social conservatives on such issues as abortion.

In the months before elections!

And they ensure that the party of "rum, sodomy and the lash" has
the chairmanships of committees!

(apologies to W. Churchill for hi-jacking his term for The Royal Navy)
16 posted on 11/15/2006 1:25:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: Sub-Driver

1. They can have one.
2. If they exist.
3. But first, they'll have to join the GOP.


17 posted on 11/15/2006 1:25:42 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Dane

They're freshmen fer pete's sake. They either vote with the entrenched of radicals like Conyers and Rangel and Reid or they don't get no walkin' around money.

(I can't believe I'm agreeing with you! For once..)


18 posted on 11/15/2006 1:26:00 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: MplsSteve

Pinging you because our boy Collin Peterson is mentioned in the article.


19 posted on 11/15/2006 1:26:14 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nothing to see here folks. Here's how it works...The "Blue-Dogs" vote against certain items like raising taxes, illegal alien amnesty etc. Thier votes are recorded and thier constituency is impressed! "Golly! Heath did what I hoped he would do! Heath's my man!" Heath (Shuler as an example) comes back to NC a hero! "I tried folks, I really did"! "YEAH HEATH!!!" "AT LEAST YOU TRIED!" "VOTE FOR HEATH AGAIN...AND AGAIN!!!" In the meantime the lib agenda gets through on the backs of SF/NY/MASS libs that were expected to vote against America. Get it!?


20 posted on 11/15/2006 1:27:50 PM PST by albie
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To: Sub-Driver

Now wouldn't be be sweet revenge if they all switched parties?


21 posted on 11/15/2006 1:28:09 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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Watch out for an alliance between the Blue Dogs and the Rinos.

Kinda like the Gang of 14.

22 posted on 11/15/2006 1:28:59 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: zbigreddogz

The Gonad Lockbox.

Take custody of the gonads, the hearts and minds will follow.


23 posted on 11/15/2006 1:31:10 PM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: Sub-Driver
Republicans "did not lose their seats to liberal Democrats" in last weeks elections, said Rep. Mike Ross (news, bio, voting record), D-Ark. "Republicans lost their seats to Blue Dog Democrats."

Oooooooo. If only they were serious! I'd love to watch this type of skirmish.
Soros would not be a happy puppy. He paid a lot of money for their "loyalty." LOL.

24 posted on 11/15/2006 1:31:11 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: VOA
And they ensure that the party of "rum, sodomy and the lash" has the chairmanships of committees!

LOL. Memorable phrase.

25 posted on 11/15/2006 1:34:56 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: BibChr

Maybe some will switch parties if Pelosi screws them over.
Republicans could make some very attractive offers.


26 posted on 11/15/2006 1:34:57 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Sub-Driver
"Conservative Democrats seek larger role" They may want to put some butter on that.
27 posted on 11/15/2006 1:36:32 PM PST by VanDeKoik (Have a bit of humor today. You wont be able to stand this crap for 15 minutes if you dont!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I think Gingrich is right. The pubbies should form a coalition with the Blue Dogs before Pelosi has a chance to organize anything with them.
28 posted on 11/15/2006 1:37:24 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
a party purge underway of any democrat to the left of Stalin

I think that you mean the "right" of Stalin, et al.

Nancy & Co. are already as left as it gets

29 posted on 11/15/2006 1:37:28 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dark Skies

Not really.


30 posted on 11/15/2006 1:37:37 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Sub-Driver


This should read: "While standing in line outside Pelosi's office awaiting their castration..."


31 posted on 11/15/2006 1:39:38 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: headstamp

"I think Gingrich is right. The pubbies should form a coalition with the Blue Dogs before Pelosi has a chance..."

We're talking Trent Lott here. Lott will probably not only send them back to Pelosi, but provide notes to her describing what bad little boys and girls they are for considering it.


32 posted on 11/15/2006 1:39:39 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Sub-Driver
LOL! hehehe...woodshed time.
33 posted on 11/15/2006 1:41:14 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: OpusatFR

It would lack decorum, lol.


34 posted on 11/15/2006 1:41:29 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Blue Dog Democrats,

You don't exist and if you do exist, you are about to get trampled. We on the left control this party. You were just window dressing to get the voters to put us back in power. Too bad your districts haven't changed and will still be conservative. Have a happy two years, because come election time, you will have much to answer for but not to worry, by then, talk radio will be dead and we will control the media. Thus, there is a chance you will get all the cover you need from the wrath of those hicks that elected you in the first place.

In the meantime, we get to hold hearings, try to socialize healthcare, ignore terrorism, cut and run from Iraq, raise taxes and a whole host of far left socialist items.

Love and kisses,

John Conyers, Nancy Pelosi, John Dingle, Jane Harman, Alcee Hastings, and last but not least Henry Waxman.


35 posted on 11/15/2006 1:42:25 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Sub-Driver
I posted this on another thread but it seems perfect for this one, too:

Michael O'Hara: "Once, off the hump of Brazil I saw the ocean so darkened with blood it was black and the sun fainting away over the lip of the sky.We'd put in at Fortaleza, and a few of us had lines out for a bit of idle fishing. It was me had the first strike. A shark it was. Then there was another, and another shark again, 'till all about, the sea was made of sharks and more sharks still, and no water at all. My shark had torn himself from the hook, and the scent, or maybe the stain it was, and him bleeding his life away drove the rest of them mad. Then the beasts to to eating each other.In their frenzy, they ate at themselves.You could feel the lust of murder like a wind stinging your eyes, and you could smell the death, reeking up out of the sea. I never saw anything worse... until this little picnic tonight.And you know, there wasn't one of them sharks in the whole crazy pack that survived."

from the movie "Lady from Shanghai"

36 posted on 11/15/2006 1:44:15 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: Darkwolf377

Thanks. Good story.


37 posted on 11/15/2006 1:48:36 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: zbigreddogz
She'll allow him to make a little noise every once in a while but Mike's "hangy downs" will remain in a jar in Nancy's closet.
38 posted on 11/15/2006 1:48:44 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
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To: Molly Pitcher

And everyone of their votes will be assiduously tracked so that in two years they will not be able to go back home and tell voters how "independent" they are. They will be exposed for who they are and will get the boot!


39 posted on 11/15/2006 1:49:26 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Sub-Driver

Blue Dogs in the doghouse bump.......


40 posted on 11/15/2006 1:51:13 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Dane

""We'll have a lot to say about what passes and what doesn't" when the 110th Congress convenes in January with Democrats in control for the first time in 12 years, said Ross, new communications director for the caucus."

hehe... Sure you will.


41 posted on 11/15/2006 1:54:51 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: LADY J

A gift of cash from a Lib lobbyist is all it will take to make these blue dogs red.

I am sure the grids have already been greased for them.


42 posted on 11/15/2006 1:57:59 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Stretch doesn't have the spare seats to ignore these guys, which is why they are issuing a public statement.

This is the thing with razor thin majorities - they'll have the same issues we had, but worse since their side is far more coalition than ours is.


43 posted on 11/15/2006 2:01:15 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Dark Skies
The Blue Dogs could be chairing every committee in the house if they were willing to flex their muscle. They easily hold the balance of power. Most Republicans would be glad to vote a Blue Dog speaker over Pelosi and put them at the head of every committee. By putting the reasonable voices in their party in charge, the Democrats could guarantee themselves control for the next two decades or so. But it won't happen because (1)the moonbats want to be in charge and (2)the Blue Dogs are not unified.

About one-third of the Blue Dogs are the real thing (examples are Dan Boren of Oklahoma, Gene Taylor of Mississippi and Collin Peterson of Minnesota), another third are Joe Liberman type liberals who still love their country (Jane Harmon of California may be the best example here, Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota would be another) and the remaining third are moonbat rubber-stamps who wear the blue-dog label as a fig leaf to ensure electability in their districts (Stephanie Herseth of South Dakota, Adam Schiff and Joe Baca of California) . . . but they get pork for their districts and throw them an occassional bone such as a pro-NRA or pro-life vote where it won't make a difference.

44 posted on 11/15/2006 2:15:33 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: FlipWilson

The signature should be

John Conyers, Nancy Pelosi, John Dingle, Jane Harman, Alcee Hastings, and last but not least Henry Waxman

The Progressive Caucus
A subsidiary of Democratic Socialist of America


45 posted on 11/15/2006 2:35:33 PM PST by MattMa ("Void of ideas, driven by hate, vote the Democratic Party in 2008")
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To: Sub-Driver

If you don't kick the traitors and communists out of your party, don't even bother coming for our votes.


46 posted on 11/15/2006 2:40:00 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The price of victory at any cost will be the Democrats downfall.


47 posted on 11/15/2006 2:58:06 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What the hell is a conservative Democrat?


48 posted on 11/15/2006 3:00:04 PM PST by dinodino (Mrs. Dinodino)
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To: Dane
Maybe Joe and Zell can give them a course in "Ostracism 101".
49 posted on 11/15/2006 3:04:30 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Barbour/Steele '08)
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To: Sub-Driver

At this point in time, there is no such thing as a "Conservative" Democrat.


50 posted on 11/15/2006 3:06:53 PM PST by sport
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