Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams
Posted on 11/16/2006 4:57:59 AM PST by radar101
UCPD officers shot a student several times with a Taser inside the Powell Library CLICC computer lab late Tuesday night before taking him into custody.
No university police officers were available to comment further about the incident as of 3 a.m. Wednesday, and no Community Service Officers who were on duty at the time could be reached.
At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately.
The CSOs left, returning minutes later, and police officers arrived to escort the student out. By this time the student had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack when an officer approached him and grabbed his arm, at which point the student told the officer to let him go. A second officer then approached the student as well.
The student began to yell "get off me," repeating himself several times.
It was at this point that the officers shot the student with a Taser for the first time, causing him to fall to the floor and cry out in pain. The student also told the officers he had a medical condition.
UCPD officers confirmed that the man involved in the incident was a student, but did not give a name or any additional information about his identity.
Video shot from a student's camera phone captured the student yelling, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your fucking abuse of power," while he struggled with the officers.
As the student was screaming, UCPD officers repeatedly told him to stand up and said "stop fighting us." The student did not stand up as the officers requested and they shot him with the Taser at least once more.
"It was the most disgusting and vile act I had ever seen in my life," said David Remesnitsky, a 2006 UCLA alumnus who witnessed the incident.
As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the police officers to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close.
Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.
Gordy was visibly upset by the incident and said other students were also disturbed.
"It's a shock that something like this can happen at UCLA," she said. "It was unnecessary what they did."
Immediately after the incident, several students began to contact local news outlets, informing them of the incident, and Remesnitsky wrote an e-mail to Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams.
>""It was the most disgusting and vile act I had ever seen in my life," said David Remesnitsky, a 2006 UCLA alumnus who witnessed the incident. "
Being that he is a Californian college grad still hanging around campus, I assume beheading American aid workers is fine with him through.
..... is fine with him.
So how do you like that, Sparky?
Too bad they don't make a room-sized Taser to clear out some of the "I want your badge number" future welfare recipients.
Officer Tackleberry on the job!
If he was leaving then they should have just let him go, sounds like petty tyrants at work here.
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I sort of agree. The part that really suggested that was, here's a guy you shot with a taser on the floor, the cops want him to stand, and when he doesn't, they taser him again. But I'm sure that the general tenor of this thread will be like the poster of this article editorialized "he's a california college kid, therefore he's a communist." Yawn.
Battery is battery, badge or not.
Fry 'em all.
The kid obviously was anti-authoritarian. I lost track of how many times they tased him - did it never occur to the cops that he might not be able to stand and walk?
Mrs VS
I agree, however the student had time to turn on the camera on his video phone. something smells fishy here. seems like once again we are getting half of a story
Well maybe the cops should have baked him a plate of muffins and set them outside the library. They probably didn't say "pretty please" enough times either.
Cop-hating Freepers crack me up.
Cop-hating Freepers crack me up
I'm glad you're so easily entertained (that was sarcasm, in case you're easily confused too).
I don't think it was the the Taz-ee's phone that was being used. It says 'a student's' not 'the student's'.
If I wanted to record something I was a bystander to - it would take 15-20 seconds from 'holster' to recording. However I'm not one of those people who feel they need to record every little thing. As seen on youtube for instance.. :)
you are correct....my bad....still it appears that something is missing from this article
I'll assume you're ignoring that the stated use for the Taser is for when you really want to shoot to kill but don't want to actually kill him? A college student on the ground doesn't quite qualify.
I knew of few college students in my day, the mid to late 70's, who were not anti authoritarian. It seems like a right of passage.
But you know, you find the absolute worst kinds of people hanging out reading libraries. /sarc
Cop-hating Freepers crack me up.
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LOL. Step off the deep end much? There is no cop hating post on the thread at all. A few of us have questioned the actions, thinking that perhaps the response was disproportionate.
Watched the video and the kid sounds deranged and looking for trouble. I am not a cop hater but think they may have overused their power when they stunned him for not standing up.
Pure and simple though, whether you agree with what the cop is doing its usually best to follow directions and complain later. If the cop asked the kid to stop then he should have stopped.
Pure and simple though, whether you agree with what the cop is doing its usually best to follow directions and complain later.
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With that, I 100% agree.
see post #15........still pretty d@mn early in the morning, and I have not had my 6th cup of coffee yet....
Your right. The 'something missing' is the security side of the story. This article only spouts the leftist drivel.
Yep!! Hopefully the university will fire them and he will press charges for battery.
Apparently this ass-h*le Remesnitsky missed the film of 9/11 and the beheading of Daniel Pearl. This moron living under a rock? Very simple. If an officer asks you to do something, do it. This punks response makes me sure this was a setup. Had his pals standing by to video it. I say give the officers a medal and this two-bit commie punk the door!
When the sheepdogs turn on the sheep, they must be ruthlessly removed from the pack. These sheepdogs turned on the sheep, plain and simple.
The guy was a student at the university library. He had every right to be there. Okay, so he didn't have his student ID with him - not horribly uncommon, especially in a big university.
So the courtesy patrol asks to see his ID card (reasonable) and he doesn't have it. The courtesy patrol asks him to leave, so he saves his work, and he's heading out of the library, which is a VERY large building.
Suddenly, two cops walk up to him and grab him. He resists, as any one of us would when someone - cop or not - grabs us for no reason. Next thing anybody knows, they're tasering the kid, then telling him to stand up. Then they taser him when he doesn't or can't stand up.
I'm a Federal LEO - these cops need to be fired.
Petty tyrants??? Aren't you two the perfectionists! Listen you dweebs this is either a country of laws or a country of men. I'll take the laws. This commie creep violated University policy by entering a building and utilizing a computer ILLEGALLY. I know that's a hard word for you proletarians. The cops have every right to use physical force to remove him. You ultra-libertarians never cease to amaze me!
Like WOW, we got one side of the story and we can make such good judgements from it.
All I saw witnessed was one profoundly idiotic person who committed felony resisting arrest and a couple of dozen idotic bystanders who committed misdemeanor interference with an officer in the performance of his duties.
Oh yeah, and this Remenitsky guy loitering.
Tasers are normally used for combative subjects that do not pose a deadly threat.
"The guy was a student at the university library. He had every right to be there. Okay, so he didn't have his student ID with him - not horribly uncommon, especially in a big university."
We don't know the full story of what led up to the tazor. From what I observed the kid was disturbing the peace before they tazored him. That would seem to be reasonable cause to ask him to stop.
I am curious as to why they tazored him for not standing up.
It wasn't illegal for him to be there. At worst he violated a school rule. He was leaving. He just wasn't leaving fast enough for the rent-a-cop. The UCPD cop grabbed him as he was leaving. When the student told him to let go the cops brutalized him.
Battery is battery. In fact, they committed a federal felony by attacking him under color of law.
So this is a country of laws and they should be charged under those laws.
I'm sure you agree since you are so supportive of living under the laws.
I'll bet you were a huge fan of the Kent State shootings, too.
Maybe having and showing ID is a policy of the school??? And being escorted off campus or being asked to leave or identified is school policy if someone isn't carrying ID.
Maybe the school has had incidents with non-students walking onto campus and causing problems?
Maybe the school can get sued if non-students meander onto campus and victimize legitimate students?
Maybe it's the policy of the school that tazers be used instead of a baton shampoo?
Seems to me that the moral of the story is: A. carry your ID B. When asked to leave when you don't have ID, maybe you better do so. It seems to me that if the first officer had to leave, and then came back with other officers, something happened when Einstein was asked to leave the first time. Maybe something along the lines of 'Here's your Patriot Act'... and dropping of the F bomb.
C. Don't be surprised that when you act like an idiot, you get treated like an idiot.
There seems to be a lot of cop haters on this thread.
If anyone would like to email Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams;
(chancellor@conet.ucla.edu)
There 'is' more to the story:
The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California, Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab.
''This is a long-standing library policy to ensure the safety of students during the late-night hours,'' said UCLA Police Department spokeswoman Nancy Greenstein.
She said police tried to escort Tabatabainejad, 23, out of the library after he refused to provide identification. Tabatabainejad instead encouraged others at the library to join his resistance, and when a crowd began to gather, police used the stun gun on him, Greenstein said.
http://www.knx1070.com/pages/126418.php?contentType=4&contentId=242403
Oh, we've got CSO's and police officers in our high schools and middle schools. A few weeks ago one of our officers was attacked by several student gang members.
They have since threatened to kill the officer.
They don't have enough money for me to work in these schools, the inmates run the asylum.
If it we're up to me, the secular humanist schools would have to take care of their own problems. But they've pawned the responsibility off on police departments.
Schools refuse to discipline animals and are aghast when the police do. Liberal theology at it's finest.
"When the student told him to let go the cops brutalized him. "
He resisted arrest. That arrest may have been a mistake but it doesn't change the fact he resisted.
BTW we don't have a "right" to be in university libraries.
I didn't realize that the Patriot Act required one to have their "Bruin Card" while using the library computers. ;)
You mean the leftist school newspaper wouldn't tell the whole story? I'm shocked and appalled.
Those police Nazi's, how dare they enforce school policy? How heinous. I'm sure Mommy and Daddy Tabatabainejad's lawyers will be in touch with the school.
I remember when some upstanding students had a riot at one of our high schools. One kid assaulted me and another officer. His punishment for rioting and assault on 2 police officers: write a letter of apology. I did not recieve, nor did I want some court ordered insincere letter of apology.
No wonder kids today have breakdowns when they enter the working world. They've been told that no one can lay a hand on them no matter how they conduct themselves.
DENNIS: Ah! NOW ... we see the violence inherent in the system.ARTHUR: Shut up!
PEOPLE (i.e. other PEASANTS): are appearing and watching
DENNIS:
(calling)
Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!ARTHUR:
(aware that people are now coming out and watching)
Bloody peasant!
(pushes DENNIS over into mud and prepares to ride off)DENNIS: Oh, Did you hear that! What a give-away.
I can't figure it out. Reading between the lines of this story was like listening to Bill Clinton spin his relationship with 'that woman, Miss Lewinsky.'
Oh well, makes for good banter.
IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!! hahahahahaha
CAIR is already on the case.
I'm old enough to remember when kids were respectful to those in authority. ;-)
The student was leaving like he was told to do. The UCPD cop grabbed him as he was leaving. The cop didn’t just approach him, he grabbed him. That was battery.
The student didn’t break any law by being in the library. At worst he broke a school rule.
Nothing in the article says the cop placed him under arrest before grabbing him. You made that up.
At the point the cop grabbed the student as he was trying to follow the instructions of the guy who told him to leave; the cop became the first person to break the law. Cops have no more right to break the law than anyone else.
We are a nation of laws. The cops should be prosecuted.
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