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MURTHA TO DROP OUT OF RUNNING [Update- Hoyer Wins!!!-Vote 149-86]
Polipundit ^ | Nov. 16, 2006 | Michael Sparxx

Posted on 11/16/2006 8:30:20 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: cripplecreek

HOYER WINS!

151 posted on 11/16/2006 9:15:01 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: areafiftyone
"Murtha had the votes!"

So who was lying? Did Murtha lie to Chris Matthews or did the Dem caucus lie to Murtha?
152 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:18 AM PST by Republican Red (if you don't want to root for the home team then get the hell out of the stadium)
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To: steve-b

But he does take a lot of money from lobbyists, he does support earmarks, and he does seem to help those who give him money.

Still, he's not as bad as Murtha.


153 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:20 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: conservativecorner

For our sake - for us getting back in power - Murtha would have been better - but for the sake of the country, he would have been a disaster. Personally, I'm glad Murtha's out.


154 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:28 AM PST by GOPJ (The MSM 's so busy kissing democrat butt they can't see straight - come up for air guys.)
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To: jazusamo
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155 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:47 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: bunches

I'm not sure of all the implications, but here's something to make the heart glad, I just took a look over at Dummies Underground, and they are having a melt down. I love it!


156 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:55 AM PST by Merlinator (To those who vote Democrat.......Osama thanks you very much!)
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To: conservativecorner
I was wondering something:



Alot of FReepers at the beginning of this thread WANTED Murtha to win because he would screw things up and make the Dems look bad.

Freepers wanted a politician to screw up our country so that the Dems would look bad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the same thing that we have been scolding dems about? NYTimes, etc, wanting a failure to make the Republicans look bad?

I would hope that if Murtha had been picked that he would do a good and decent job. Not mess things up to make my party look good.
157 posted on 11/16/2006 9:17:32 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: Merlinator

Don't know much about Hoyer but if DU is upset then it must be good for the country.


158 posted on 11/16/2006 9:17:42 AM PST by Republican Red (if you don't want to root for the home team then get the hell out of the stadium)
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To: rottndog
Too bad for us. He would have been a great target.

Yes, Murtha would've been fun, but this puts the country and WOT in a better position. Ultimately, that's what we want. We still have Nan (and the Senate nuts) for entertainment, anyway.

159 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:08 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Merlinator

They can still pray for Alcee Hastings for Intelligence Cmte. Chair....Oh well, guess we are not re-deploying to Okinawa now..


160 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:27 AM PST by milwguy
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To: conservativecorner

Looks like the Dems are getting serious.


161 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:47 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: conservativecorner

Murtha has a lifetime ACU rating of about 33, compared to Hoyer at 8. Murtha was far more conservative than Hoyer.

Just for reference Lieberman is a 17 lifetime. Chafee is a 37.

Lifetime, Hillary is a 9, Feinstein an 11, Cynthia McKinney a 7.

The liberal is the winner, I doubt if Pelosi is too bummed out.


162 posted on 11/16/2006 9:19:57 AM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Hoyer is the better choice for the nation and that's good enough for me.


163 posted on 11/16/2006 9:20:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Just A Nobody
ROTFLOL!

At least they have something in common, they Depend on each other. What a pair to draw to.

164 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:09 AM PST by jazusamo (Murtha still owes the Haditha Marines an apology-See DogMurtha.com.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

I never desired Murtha to win. He's a lunatic. The House is the U.S. House of Representatives...not the Dem. House or the GOP House. The leadership in the House has an impact on all Americans.


166 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:15 AM PST by katieanna
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To: cripplecreek

Thats what we want. Right?
Whats best for the nation?
Not what makes our party look best.


167 posted on 11/16/2006 9:23:15 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

ROFL!


168 posted on 11/16/2006 9:23:53 AM PST by top 2 toe red (~**~ I liked Tuesday, November 7, 2006...a lot, lot better before the votes were counted. ~**~)
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To: siunevada
She was only going through the motions. She didn't make much of an effort beyond issuing her letter of support.

Where have YOU been the past several days? Several new freshmen reps have reported their experiences being called on the carpet by Nancy and arm-twisted to vote her way. Fred Grandy (former congressman) was on the radio this morning talking about Pelosi's strong arm tactics to get her people into key posts re Murtha vote vs Hasterts' much different low key approach. This infighting ought to get interesting now!
169 posted on 11/16/2006 9:23:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
THANK YOU!!!

The b-turds in DC have issued a fatwa on our troops and no one cares.

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170 posted on 11/16/2006 9:24:03 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Enterprise
I remember Hoyer as on of the biggest anti-Reagan mouth-pieces back in the 80's. Murtha is politically much closer to the Blue Dogs than Hoyer.

The question is, how many of Murtha's vote's were an obligation for Pelosi and how many wanted a more conservative democrat, regardless of Murtha's baggage

171 posted on 11/16/2006 9:24:21 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Good point, H. Hoyer will be much better for our military and all of us.


172 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:24 AM PST by jazusamo (Murtha still owes the Haditha Marines an apology-See DogMurtha.com.)
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To: katieanna

I didn't desire him to win either because I KNEW he would mess things up.

We can't talk smack about Democrats wanting to look good at the expence of the country if we do it too.


173 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:36 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover; W04Man; smoothsailing; freema; GitmoSailor; IslandJeff
they Depend on each other

GOOD ONE JAZ!

174 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:53 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: conservativecorner

Pelosi - That's leadership! And this sort of leadership is 3rd in line for the presidency.


175 posted on 11/16/2006 9:26:10 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The default mode of the heart is set for Drift.)
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To: conservativecorner

In other news, Nancy Pelosi's relatives are now trying to figure out what to do with investments purchased in Okinawa.


176 posted on 11/16/2006 9:26:21 AM PST by Spokane
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To: conservativecorner

I am quite happy the big galoot will not be the majority leader. However, don't think for one minute that the hysterical Pelosi hasn't provided the bait for an endeavor she knew would fail. How do you think she got to be the monetarily rich, so and so that she is? It certainly wasn't by being nice. That is nowhere to be found on her agenda. Not now, nor anytime in the future. She fleeced and lied to everybody and their brother. And she's at it again!

She can obviously wrap Hoyer around her little finger so he'll be her puppet...


177 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:15 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Instead, he cut'n'run.

The Democrat war hero mindset.

178 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:29 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Exactly!!!

It's scary to think what the Dems agenda will do to this country. We know what they are capable of and what their mindset is, and that can be so damaging for this country.

IMO, although I fear the worse, I do hope the best is achieved, for the sake of our country.


179 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:39 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Given a choice between the good of the nation and the good of the party, I'll choose nation every time.


180 posted on 11/16/2006 9:28:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: InvisibleChurch

"3rd in line for the presidency."

2nd in line, dear. Cheney is first in line. House Speaker second.


181 posted on 11/16/2006 9:29:15 AM PST by katieanna
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To: Republican Red; WBL 1952; eureka!

Try this:

Pelosi Splits Democrats With Push For Murtha - Speaker-to-Be Accused Of Strong-Arm Tactics

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/15/AR2006111501521_pf.html

Well, that certainly looks like a good source.

That makes the situation much more entertaining. If she actually put some serious effort into getting the votes and didn't qite make the grade.


182 posted on 11/16/2006 9:29:52 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: katieanna
2nd in line, dear. Cheney is first in line. House Speaker second.

Sorry.... I was thinking that Hillary! would try to cut in line.

Thanks for the coreection.

183 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:33 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The default mode of the heart is set for Drift.)
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To: conservativecorner

The fact Pelosi put this joke of a gasbag up for Speaker in the first place ought to tell you how much of a circus things are going to be in the house for the next 2 years.


184 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:42 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: muleskinner

I have to admit that your knowledge of Murtha is much more detailed than mine. He only came to my attention when he began badmouthing the troops. That being said, your observation is interesting. If Murtha is "blue-dog" and Hoyer is an "anti-Reagan" then it might be more philosophically consistent of the Democrats that they chose Hoyer.


185 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:47 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: conservativecorner

wow, I thought he was a shoe in!

Cant beleive the good people of PA re-elected that creep

Maybe the cut/run events we feared will not fly...


186 posted on 11/16/2006 9:32:28 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Murtha should have taken the bribe when he had the opportunity.


187 posted on 11/16/2006 9:32:29 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The default mode of the heart is set for Drift.)
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To: winner3000
They couldn't pick a more unattractive, un-American leader.

I really do not agree that Murtha winning would be good for the GOP. As disgusting and repulsive as we find Murtha, the public seems to dig him. He won his race quite handily, so I doubt he will self-destruct, as the MSM has portayed him as a couragous hawk with the courage to oppose an "illegal war".

188 posted on 11/16/2006 9:33:14 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: edpc
"He just told Matthews last night he had the votes. It wouldn't be the first time he'd be wrong.....nor the last."

Murtha lied, ballots died.
189 posted on 11/16/2006 9:33:25 AM PST by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: edpc
He just told Matthews last night he had the votes. It wouldn't be the first time he'd be wrong.....nor the last.

He needs to start an investigation and determine who "lied" to him about how they would vote.

If just last night he "had the votes" and today he got creamed, clearly there was some lying going on amongst his collegues.

190 posted on 11/16/2006 9:33:26 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: silverleaf
Where have YOU been the past several days?

Out of it, I guess.

Republican Red linked the WaPo article. This makes things much more entertaining - if she tried some heavy duty arm twisting and didn't get what she wanted.

191 posted on 11/16/2006 9:34:22 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Skywarner

The funny thing is that the democrats haven't emerged from voting yet. I wonder if they're recounting? LOL


192 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Enterprise

Murtha is an unindicted co-conspirator from Abscam.. he's a pork barrel guy who gets perpetually re-elected because he brings pork from washington to the Mon Valley.. and there are so many left over steel hunky union mentality fools up there who dream of what it used to be instead of doing something to actually clean the state up that he'll keep getting re-elected from there until he dies.


193 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Howlin

Are you ok? Family ok? Tornados come near you?


194 posted on 11/16/2006 9:36:31 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like I was right. Murtha won't go quietly.


195 posted on 11/16/2006 9:37:05 AM PST by Crawdad (Is this thing on?)
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To: conservativecorner

Nancy Pelosi is Deeply Disturbed!


196 posted on 11/16/2006 9:38:11 AM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: HamiltonJay

That's true too! Keep bringing home the pork and you get to keep going to the market!


197 posted on 11/16/2006 9:38:30 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: conservativecorner
"Pelosi's aggressive intervention on behalf of Murtha baffled and angered many Democrats, who said she unnecessarily put her reputation on the line out of misplaced loyalty to a friend and because of a long-standing feud with Hoyer, the minority whip. Pelosi pushed Murtha's candidacy at social events, in private meetings and with incoming freshman Democrats; they were called to her office to discuss committee assignments, only to hear first that she needed Murtha in order to be an effective leader."

Ah, they're eating their own and her intimidation tactics are backfiring! Love it!!!
198 posted on 11/16/2006 9:38:32 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Crawdad

Here are the democrats. Must be they finally mnanaged to get a tranquilizer dart into Murtha to bring him down.


199 posted on 11/16/2006 9:38:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: conservativecorner

"Pelosi's aggressive intervention on behalf of Murtha baffled and angered many Democrats, who said she unnecessarily put her reputation on the line out of misplaced loyalty to a friend and because of a long-standing feud with Hoyer, the minority whip. Pelosi pushed Murtha's candidacy at social events, in private meetings and with incoming freshman Democrats; they were called to her office to discuss committee assignments, only to hear first that she needed Murtha in order to be an effective leader."

Excerpt from the Washington Post article

Ah, they're eating their own and her intimidation tactics are backfiring! Love it!!!


200 posted on 11/16/2006 9:39:57 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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