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The Republicans Really Won (CBS News: Dem victory all part of Rove's greater accountability scheme)
CBS News ^ | Nov. 15, 2006 | Lloyd Garver

Posted on 11/16/2006 9:14:22 AM PST by presidio9

Democrats stop celebrating, and Republicans, don't despair. I know the Democrats won the recent election on paper, but in the long run the Republicans just might be the big winners of Election 2006.

In fact, I think the Republicans set the whole thing up so the Democrats could fail over the next two years, which will bring about a big Republican presidential win in 2008.

What other explanation is there? I mean, do you think that Karl Rove and the rest of the Republican brain trust suddenly got stupid? I don't think so.

Iraq

Iraq looks like a no-win situation. And who knows this better than the current Administration? So, they're turning over the mess to the Democrats saying, "Here. If you think you're so smart, you fix it." And when the 2008 election comes around and we haven't gotten out of Iraq as easily as everyone hoped, who's going to be blamed: The Democratic majority.

Accountability And Revenge

Everyone is waiting to see how vigorously the Democrats will try to make the Republicans accountable for the mistakes that were made in dealing with Katrina and Iraq.

I guess the thinking goes like this: "If they could impeach President Clinton because he lied about his sexual exploits, shouldn't the Republicans be held accountable for lying (or at best, being mistaken or incompetent) about things that led to Americans losing their homes or their lives?"

I follow the logic, but this could be a trap set by the Republicans. If there are too many committees, too many accusations, and too many subpoenas, there is bound to be a public backlash. If Republicans are blamed for everything from the war in Iraq, to global warming, to the popularity of "Dancing With The Stars," Democrats will look like sore winners.

If the Democrats investigate other things — corruption and general sleaziness — they risk turning up evidence against themselves as well. On the other hand, if they don't try to put a stop to all the greed and sleaze in Congress, those who voted for them will feel betrayed. Is this another no-win situation engineered by the Republicans?

The Rumsfeld Factor

When I first heard that President Bush was firing — I mean, "accepting the resignation of" — Secretary Rumsfeld, I thought this meant the President was resigning, too. After all, a week before the election, President Bush assured us that Secretary Rumsfeld would continue in his position for as long as Bush was President. But people were so happy to see Rumsfeld go, that nobody made that big of a deal about the President's little fib.

Bush wanted to get rid of Rumsfeld for quite a while, but he couldn't just fire him after making so many statements supporting him. But after the election, the president could say that he was responding to the electorate since "the people have spoken." Score a big one for the Republicans.

Bringing In Daddy's Guys

And who did the president name as Rumsfeld's replacement? Robert Gates, the guy who was the head of the CIA during the first President Bush's administration. And who was brought in to help with Iraq policy? James A. Baker III, a good friend of President Bush I and his Secretary of State.

Baker last surfaced during the Florida recount in 2000, representing the Republican interests. If he could help pull off that victory, maybe some of his mojo can help end the war in Iraq. This might even be easier than 2000 — he won't have to worry about annoying things like election laws and "obstructionist" Supreme Court justices.

Other friends and associates of the elder Bush will be helping out, too. But I don't think this is just a case of a father bailing out a son. I think this is all part of a calculated grand scheme by the Grand Old Party to do whatever's necessary to keep the White House in 2008.

So, who do they plan on running for President in 2008? Let's see. Who's comfortable with all these friends and advisors of the first George Bush? Who has experience in waging war against Iraq? And who could become president without saying one negative word about the current president? There's only one man who fits this bill. That's right — George Herbert Walker Bush.

Why not? The President's dad served only one term, so constitutionally he's still eligible. And do you honestly think this scenario is any more far-fetched than some of the things we're going to see in politics over the next two years?


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1 posted on 11/16/2006 9:14:24 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

RYMB?


2 posted on 11/16/2006 9:16:27 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander

oh whatever!


3 posted on 11/16/2006 9:17:02 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: presidio9

ROFL!!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry over this guys though patterns, so I will just laugh at him. ROFL!!!


4 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:01 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: presidio9

So, who would be the VP?


5 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:40 AM PST by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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To: presidio9
I wouldn't say that the Democrat take-over was a Republican plot. Karl Rove is not omnipotent (...Dick Cheney... I'm not so sure...). We got our butts kicked, and we should not deny that simple fact.

But we should be looking for ways to prosper in the current environment. This article, flawed as it is in premise, points the way.
6 posted on 11/16/2006 9:19:47 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Does it have to be McCain or Giuliani? Are we that pathetic?)
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To: presidio9

Holy crap, this will send the moonbats into orbit!


7 posted on 11/16/2006 9:20:27 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: presidio9

Bush Derangement Syndrome at elevated levels!


8 posted on 11/16/2006 9:20:47 AM PST by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline please contact the moderator.)
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To: presidio9

John McCain is going to be the republican nominee and will get his ass spanked when the democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, starts the "he's crazy" presidential campaign.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 9:21:18 AM PST by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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To: presidio9

I actually thought along these lines in recent days, that the Republicans --- faced with big problems of public opinion and media lies on the subject of Iraq --- might have pulled a kind of political jiu-jitsu in which they take a roll on the floor in response to an enemy blow, but a roll that with follow-through that will put them back up on top, with a vengance.

The problem with this thinking is: what kind of damage can the dhimmicrats do in 2 years?

The problem is: the dhimmicrats will quite possibly embolden the Iranians to develop and USE nuclear weapons.

So though the argument of this article does have some merit (even if it is possibly a bit tongue-in-cheek), the reality is, every minute the dhimmicrats rule, all Americans are in deadly danger.


10 posted on 11/16/2006 9:21:29 AM PST by samtheman (Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow the Iranians Nuke New York.)
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To: presidio9

http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/writers/garver

Maybe he should have stuck with Sesame Street.


11 posted on 11/16/2006 9:21:37 AM PST by maggief
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To: DejaJude

CBS actually let this person out of Bellview long enough to write this?

I mean, why don't the RATS just show the pictures of Rove entering the WTC on 9/10 with the boxes of explosives?


12 posted on 11/16/2006 9:21:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: presidio9

Good Lord! This guy must be smoking some wacky weed.


13 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:19 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: presidio9
Karl Rove swiftboated John Murtha.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

14 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DejaJude

Scowcroft.


15 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:30 AM PST by pgyanke (Gay marriage does to real marriage what counterfeit money does to real money. - Hemogoblin)
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To: bondjamesbond

Except for running GHWB. That's a little wacky, even by prevailing standards. I was all for running GWHB is 1996, but he's getting a wee bit long in the tooth, these days.


16 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:39 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Does it have to be McCain or Giuliani? Are we that pathetic?)
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To: presidio9
The Democrats will not fail.

The "truth" will be what their MSM says it is.

And that "truth" will be rosy.

17 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:41 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: presidio9

These Dems just can't get enough of conspiracy theories.


18 posted on 11/16/2006 9:22:45 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: presidio9

Sometimes I think the whole world has gone completely bats**** insane.


19 posted on 11/16/2006 9:23:23 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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To: GSWarrior; lesser_satan


Note to nutball liberal conspiracy theorist: GHW Bush will be 84 years old in 2006.


20 posted on 11/16/2006 9:23:57 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Does this guy write for a living?

Man, he's all over the place.


21 posted on 11/16/2006 9:24:45 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: Lazamataz

Ping for your pinglist.


22 posted on 11/16/2006 9:24:58 AM PST by Disambiguator (;^))
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23 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:00 AM PST by SDGOP
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To: presidio9

George Herbert Walker Bush. ROTFLMAO!!!!! The man will be 91 years old! These people are friggin desperate!


24 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:12 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: presidio9

Even when we lose it's a trick and nefarious plot? LOLOLOL!


25 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DejaJude

Mama Bush.


26 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:42 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: montomike

Speaking of which, John McCain will be 72 years old in 2006. He would turn 73 the year he took office.


27 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:54 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Rove you magnificent bastard!


28 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:08 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: DejaJude
So, who would be the VP?


X42
29 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:09 AM PST by maggief
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To: presidio9

Winning is losing, and losing is winning. What a strategy.


30 posted on 11/16/2006 9:27:12 AM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: presidio9; commish

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1738254/posts


31 posted on 11/16/2006 9:28:03 AM PST by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: presidio9
In fact, I think the Republicans set the whole thing up so the Democrats could fail over the next two years, which will bring about a big Republican presidential win in 2008.

LOL... well, maybe that will be the unintended consequence, but to suggest that the Republicans stole the election in reverse, on purpose, takes an extremely creative thinker.

I see a deranged guy like this on downtown street corners every day, dressed in rags and shouting obscenities at passersby.

(BTW, Doctor Dean, the raggedy clothes ain't fooling anybody, we know you by that strange look in your eyes...)

32 posted on 11/16/2006 9:29:16 AM PST by Kenton
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To: samtheman

But Bush still has the power and they only have a 1 seat majority in the senate with Lieberman a cocked cannon who could tip the balance at anytime. And he will vote with us on the WOT.


33 posted on 11/16/2006 9:29:17 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: DejaJude

That would be his good traveling buddy, Bubba.


34 posted on 11/16/2006 9:29:28 AM PST by Gulf War One
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To: pgyanke
Scowcroft.

And what would be their combined ages? We are looking at the nearly departed here.

35 posted on 11/16/2006 9:30:35 AM PST by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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To: presidio9

I thought he was 89. Oh well. My bad.


36 posted on 11/16/2006 9:30:37 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb
But Bush still has the power and they only have a 1 seat majority in the senate with Lieberman a cocked cannon who could tip the balance at anytime. And he will vote with us on the WOT.
It all depends on how well organized the dhimmis are. They have the power in the House to cut war funding.
37 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:05 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: SDGOP

Oh, my!


38 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:06 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: Howlin

OMG you can't miss this one. Be sure to read the WHOLE thing!!!!


39 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:33 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: beckysueb

Either way he's too old, no matter how many airplanes he jumps out of.


40 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:47 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
There's only one man who fits this bill. That's right — George Herbert Walker Bush.

Clearly, this article is satire.

41 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:51 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: SDGOP
That's pretty disgusting, but I do like the design of the wall behind him.
42 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:17 AM PST by jdm
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To: presidio9

Yes, he is. To think they actually would think something like that is just plain nuts! I like the fact they are going to worry that this is a Rove plot, though.


43 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:27 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: My2Cents
My take was that the author employed exaggerations that he felt were humorous, but that he generally believes the sentiment behind them. No, I don't think he's serious about Pappa Bush, but I do get the sense that some on the left are afraid that this victory could be phyrric.
44 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:36 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Typical liberal analysis. Winning=losing.

When they lose, they spin it as a win. At least they are being consistent here in their stupidity.


45 posted on 11/16/2006 9:37:41 AM PST by joonbug
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To: presidio9
"What other explanation is there? I mean, do you think that Karl Rove and the rest of the Republican brain trust suddenly got stupid? I don't think so."

I think they were already somewhat stupid...though closer to naive.

The current executive administration views the electorate more as "stockholders" than citizens. This has certainly come back to bite them.

46 posted on 11/16/2006 9:37:44 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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This might even be easier than 2000 — he won't have to worry about annoying things like election laws and "obstructionist" Supreme Court justices.

Delusional nitwit. It was the Gore campaign that tried to run roughshod over Florida election laws, and the Florida Supreme Court which was making things up as they went.

47 posted on 11/16/2006 9:39:20 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: presidio9

Maybe we should lose every election so the lesson REALLY gets learned.


48 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:21 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Big winners of election 2006: Democrats, terrorists, MSM, Hollywood, anti-war protestors, etc.)
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To: presidio9

This is a joke. Right?? LOL


49 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:35 AM PST by USArmySpouse
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To: bondjamesbond
We got our butts kicked, and we should not deny that simple fact.

If "WE" means republicans, okay. If "WE" means conservatives, I might not agree with you. Many of the democrats that were elected were more conservative than the republicans they were running against. For example, just today, Murtha was thrown to the curb.

50 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:51 AM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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