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Milton Friedman, free market economist, dies at age 94
Contra Cost Times (AP) ^ | Nov. 16, 2006 | Justin M. Norton

Posted on 11/16/2006 10:55:13 AM PST by calcowgirl

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To: calcowgirl
Yep. To heck with the posting police. Milton Friedman was a giant among giants. The year before I graduated, he was the commencement speaker at my college. I made it a point to attend even as part of the audience.

Nobody could explain things more clearly, logically or forcefully. He came out with his series Free to Choose not long thereafter. We need more like him. Most of all, we need politicians with the guts to follow his advice.

21 posted on 11/16/2006 12:17:23 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Hendrix

IIRC, Friedman only advocated any kind of NIT as part of a comprehensive reform that would have drastically reduced overall taxes, moved to sales taxes rather than income, etc. If "they" took one PART of his ideas-that-were-meant-to-be-implemented-comprehensively, and ignored the other parts, one cannot blame Friedman.


22 posted on 11/16/2006 12:27:12 PM PST by pogo101
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To: jim_trent

He wrote a letter to Galbraith asking snarkily how Galbraith felt to have Nixon as one of his followers. Galbraith never replied.


23 posted on 11/16/2006 12:28:17 PM PST by pogo101
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To: calcowgirl

Last week I was disappointed..

..but today..I'm distraught.

I great champion of FREEDOM passed today..and he will be sorely missed.

The other greats have already passed...Goldwater, Reagan.

WFB..may YOU live forever!


24 posted on 11/16/2006 12:39:14 PM PST by Livfreeordi
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To: jim_trent; pogo101

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/int_miltonfriedman.html

MILTON FRIEDMAN: ... Nixon was a very, very smart person. In fact, he had one of the highest IQs of any public official I've met. The problem with Nixon was not intelligence and not prejudices. The problem with him was that he was willing to sacrifice principles too easily for political advantage.

But at any rate, as I was getting up to leave, President Nixon said to me, "Don't blame George for this silly business of wage and price controls," meaning George Shultz. And I believe I said to him, I think I said to him, "Oh, no, Mr. President. I don't blame George; I blame you! " (laughs) And that, I think, was the last thing I said to him.

Now, the interesting point of that story is that the Nixon tapes are now available, and I have been trying to get that part of the Nixon tapes, but I haven't been able to get them yet. I want to make sure I didn't make this up.


25 posted on 11/16/2006 12:47:26 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: pogo101; Hendrix; calcowgirl
Friedman, I believe, advocated the NIT as a way of taking the poverty argument off the table when discussing whether the welfare state should be dismantled. Unfortunately, the NIT that was implemented supplemented rather than replaced the entitlement monstrosity.

If you're interested in a new approach to this problem, I recommend Charles Murray's In Our Hands. He proposes, in the interests of political provocation, eliminating all entitlements and subsidies and replacing them with a $10,000 grant to every citizen every year from age 20 until death. We spend the same money, without creating the same dependency, making people once again (partly) responsible for their choices. He discusses the NIT and its failure a little in the book.

26 posted on 11/16/2006 12:54:23 PM PST by untenured
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To: ModelBreaker
He was a 20th century giant. RIP.

Amen to that.

27 posted on 11/16/2006 12:55:56 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: untenured
Thanks for the reading recommendation.

Regarding Friedman and the NIT, here is an excerpt from the relevant chapter of his book Capitalism and Freedom.

28 posted on 11/16/2006 1:03:17 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Thanks for that link. Evidently, at least at that time, he did believe in an NIT on ethical grounds.

The major disadvantage of the proposed negative income tax is its political implications.

Apparently some state experiments with an NIT showed significant incentive effects - the discouragement of work. I am surprised he didn't mention that as a major disadvantage.

Still, in light of his lifetime of achievements on behalf of freedom, a vanishingly small mistake.

29 posted on 11/16/2006 1:13:38 PM PST by untenured
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To: calcowgirl

A great American.

He will be missed.


30 posted on 11/16/2006 1:18:47 PM PST by I Hired Craig Livingstone
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To: dfwgator
He did not know the cause of death. old age maybe?
"In the long run, we are all dead."
Please - that's a quote from John Maynard Keynes. And we are paying respects to the man who spent his professional career debunking Keynesian economics.

BTW, it is not to be assumed to be true. In the long run, at least until Christ returns, each of us will die - but that is not the same as all people being dead.

"In the long run, we are all dead" is an "Eat, drink, and make merry, for tomorrow we die" philosophy. If our ancestors had followed that prescription we would not have had the patrimony that we have inherited - and if we follow that prescription we will be betraying our posterity instead of honoring the preamble of the Constitution which lists among its purposes "to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."


31 posted on 11/16/2006 3:10:12 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Alright already, you caught me trying to be a little cute there with the Keynes quote. Of course I admired Friedman, and despised Keynsian economics. Unfortunately "We're all Keynesians Now" is back in fashion with the GOP.


32 posted on 11/16/2006 3:14:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: untenured
He proposes, in the interests of political provocation, eliminating all entitlements and subsidies and replacing them with a $10,000 grant to every citizen every year from age 20 until death. We spend the same money, without creating the same dependency, making people once again (partly) responsible for their choices.

The problem with this approach is that those currently living on the dole would blow their $10000 in one month or less. Then they would come crying for more help and the electorate would grant them their welfare if for nothing else then "for the children".

33 posted on 11/16/2006 3:28:56 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: Molly Pitcher

I saw this in passing the newsstand at the airport and couldn't believe it.


34 posted on 11/17/2006 8:05:41 AM PST by The Raven (My Politics are Always Right)
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