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Freeper exclusive: Weapons cache demolition causes many to be sick from exposure in Baghdad
private e-mails | 11/16/2006 | RaceBannon

Posted on 11/16/2006 4:54:12 PM PST by RaceBannon

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To: michigander

Be careful what you wish for.


151 posted on 11/16/2006 6:22:27 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: RaceBannon
Oh, Please, that is a comment that i could have very well added myself.

Did you?

And if so, why is it bolded, colored, and made to appear as original text?

If not, is it original text from 1st source?

152 posted on 11/16/2006 6:23:14 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: VaMarVet

Pardon me! but We have NOT been loosing the War, except in the MSM and with the democrats. You might want to think about all that has happened that is positive. Also, just for a second think about all the acts of terror prior to 9-11 here and how bin Laden in the 90s said We were a nation of cowards. The truth comes out over time.


153 posted on 11/16/2006 6:23:17 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: RaceBannon

I haven;t heard anything. Ping me if something further develops.


154 posted on 11/16/2006 6:24:06 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Flint

True, but did we not here complaints that the old WMD shells found in Iraq, were, well, old, and not that much of a threat. At least that was the complaints from the left, and as always they are taken with a grain of salt. I thought their theory was that separate agents could degrade and not fully mix or not fully activate.


155 posted on 11/16/2006 6:24:49 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Right Wing Assault
Dammit! If President Bush knew there were such things in Iraq, he should have told us!

I'll go you one better. If Saddam was a Nazi or other white supremacist, the Democrats would be looking to impeach Bush because he was 'dragging his feet' in the search for them and hadn't found them yet. (Or if he had found some, the charge would be that he hadn't found them ALL.)

"We know the weapons are there! They haven't searched every weapons cache, what's taking so long? Have we learned nothing from the Holocaust? Bush is just trying to protect his Nazi buddies so he can use these weapons in gas chambers on gays and free thinkers and anyone else he deems a subversive!"

156 posted on 11/16/2006 6:25:02 PM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: RaceBannon

Are we waiting on a Kinkos in Abilene?

*Laugh!*


157 posted on 11/16/2006 6:25:45 PM PST by Enosh
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To: VaMarVet
Be careful what you wish for.

LOL. Touché!

158 posted on 11/16/2006 6:26:24 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Eagle Eye; Lizarde
The story goes that when the Japanese battleship Yamato was destroyed during its suicide run to Okinawa, the mushroom cloud that rose from the exploding ship was so large it could clearly be seen from the southern Japanese islands.

Four months later, the people in Southern Japan saw even larger mushroom clouds.

159 posted on 11/16/2006 6:28:50 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: Flint

depends on how hot the explosion was, burning is the accepted method of disposing of these weapons

It is POSSIBLE that the explosion obliterated most of the agents and left just noxious materials behind


160 posted on 11/16/2006 6:29:35 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Enosh

not funny


161 posted on 11/16/2006 6:30:19 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Velveeta
Google News search on 10th Mountain DIV
162 posted on 11/16/2006 6:31:49 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: RaceBannon

anyone know og an iraqi english language new site?


163 posted on 11/16/2006 6:32:03 PM PST by xmission
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To: MizSterious; Jet Jaguar

We've all tried to tell people and I am rather surprised the military didn't insist that the military take precautions despite the left's mantra there were no WMD in Iraq.


164 posted on 11/16/2006 6:32:29 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: RaceBannon

Evidently we couldn't find Chem/Bio WMD in Iraq despite everyone looking for it....but we can blow the stuff up without even trying??


165 posted on 11/16/2006 6:32:34 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: True Republican Patriot
Pardon me!

I can't pardon you. Attitudes resembling an ostrich with his head in the sand are getting our young, best and brightest killed in Iraq. It takes a ground truth to be able to plan the road ahead. Living in denial provides a false ground truth that foreshadows more of the same…

166 posted on 11/16/2006 6:33:39 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Allegra

anyone ping Allegra?


167 posted on 11/16/2006 6:34:33 PM PST by RDTF (Quote of the year: "Halp us Jon Carry - We R stuck hear n Irak.")
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To: RaceBannon

Sorry. Okay, I will go. Please let me know the final result when you know.


168 posted on 11/16/2006 6:34:36 PM PST by Enosh
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To: RDTF

Anyone heard from her lately?


169 posted on 11/16/2006 6:35:35 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: VaMarVet

What Iraq needs more then anything else is for the Pentagon to get its head out of its butt and really start equipping the Iraqi Army and police. The Madhi Army is better equipped then the Iraqi Army today.


170 posted on 11/16/2006 6:36:58 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: RaceBannon; Admin Moderator

So... who's responsible for the BUSHLIED keyword up above? Too bad sarcasm tags don't show up in keywords, but can retreads & infiltrators post keywords without being signed in?


171 posted on 11/16/2006 6:37:18 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: RDTF
Good idea,,she's gunna have a few,,,Lots happening there...
172 posted on 11/16/2006 6:40:00 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Centurion2000
Please keep us advised. I wonder why the MSM hasn't picked it up at all considering the time delay.

Are you series? The last thing the MSM would want it to admit that there were/are WMD because then they would HAVE TO admit that Bush was right. They'd rather cut out their tongues than do that.

173 posted on 11/16/2006 6:43:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GoLightly

She seemed really upset with all the posts griping after election. Maybe she feels we let her down.


174 posted on 11/16/2006 6:43:41 PM PST by easternsky
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To: RaceBannon

Still nothing in the MSM. If it is Sarin or VX the Pentagon already knows... They will have to give something to the media soonn.


175 posted on 11/16/2006 6:45:34 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Ted Kennedy used the KGB to undermine Reagan. Who used Al-Qaeda to undermine Bush?)
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To: jmc1969
What Iraq needs more then anything else is for the Pentagon to get its head out of its butt and really start equipping the Iraqi Army and police. The Madhi Army is better equipped then the Iraqi Army today.

Just a small part of it… First and foremost there has to be a resemblance of security for the Iraqi people to build off of. Second, the Iraq forces must be trained before arming – otherwise you are just arming the insurgents / terrorists.

We could have done this right – but we let the “golden hour” (the vacuum created by regime change in 2003) escape us. Whenever a vacuum in these types of operations is created someone will fill it. Unfortunately we were not prepared or willing to fill that vacuum.

176 posted on 11/16/2006 6:46:22 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: GoLightly

She posted at 8:26 this morning.


177 posted on 11/16/2006 6:48:10 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: VaMarVet

Sorry, but I am completely sick of excuses when good Iraqi soldiers and police aren't getting paid, are being forced to share AK 47s, and are riding around in pickups. While the Madhi Army gets three times the money and much better weapons from Iran.




Police in Anbar province lack protection, pay

Shaaban al-Obeidi, a police chief in a small town in western Iraq, is regularly the target of assassination attempts.

On one recent attack, he was shot in the chest and left for dead. But al-Obeidi refuses to give up his job as police chief of Baghdadi, a Euphrates River valley town about 100 miles northwest of Baghdad.

"We will sacrifice our lives for our country," al-Obeidi says.

During a recent tour of towns in Anbar, the challenges were evident: police officers complained of being outgunned by insurgents and often going unpaid.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/grmetro_article.aspx?storyid=65162
In his crowded office, Qaim Mayor Fahran Fahran complains that he receives no support from the national government. He needs fuel, equipment and salaries for his police force.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/grmetro_article.aspx?storyid=65162


179 posted on 11/16/2006 6:51:35 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: VaMarVet
Attitudes like that do not help the war effort. Bottom-line is that we have a war to win and playing the "there really were WMD" in Iraq game is distracting from that effort.

Once again, nonsense. Calling the very people out who unjustly undermined public support for the war is -- I say again -- CRUCIAL to said effort. They cannot be trusted to prosecute the war because they are constantly looking over their shoulder for an exit sign (that doesn't exist) with their other eye looking for any excuse to run to said nonexistent exit. What spare time they have left from that is spent trying to ram the square peg of this war into the round hole of Vietnam. ZERO time is spent seriously thinking about how to win -- only about how to quit, lose and make it sort of look like we kinda-sorta won so France will like us again.

They want to quit, they want to discredit not only politicians and other civilians sounding the alarm about Al Qaeda & Co. but to discredit and embarrass the US military itself, erode American power and influence and further empower the UN, and they want to convince the public that we are in a war of Bush's own choosing for oil that we can quit at any time without consequence -- and NOT a fight to the death with Islamo-fascism.

THEY MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE so they can't continue to lead swing voters down the primrose path of appeasement and get more appeasers elected. Failure to confront them on all this is not an option -- if we can't win the PR war here on the home front, we cannot win the war. And if we cannot win this war, we are doomed as a nation. And we cannot win the PR war by helping the Democrats sweep their myopia, naivety and stupidity under the rug. Until the Democratic Party makes an astronomical change in its thinking about this war and the use of force in general, it is a death-wish to leave them at the helm.

180 posted on 11/16/2006 6:52:34 PM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: metmom; Centurion2000
Are you series? The last thing the MSM would want it to admit that there were/are WMD because then they would HAVE TO admit that Bush was right. They'd rather cut out their tongues than do that.

It would appear to me that if this is true that some of the cable news reporters would be affected as well.

181 posted on 11/16/2006 6:55:46 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Zhangliqun

Excellent rant... I think I'll save it...


182 posted on 11/16/2006 6:55:59 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Ted Kennedy used the KGB to undermine Reagan. Who used Al-Qaeda to undermine Bush?)
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To: TexKat

I'd love to hear Skullhead Colmes try to weasel his way out of this if true.


183 posted on 11/16/2006 6:58:12 PM PST by xmission
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To: TexKat
It would appear to me that if this is true that some of the cable news reporters would be affected as well.

You are assuming reporters were at the scene. They may not have been.

184 posted on 11/16/2006 6:59:56 PM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: Zhangliqun

Sure, everything I said was nonsense. I think you proved my point about not listening to alternatives.

BTW - the caps lock on for certain points in your post is truly convincing... I never read an entire post - just what the poster wants me to read via accentuation.


185 posted on 11/16/2006 7:00:14 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: RaceBannon

Where was this Race....in Baghdad?


186 posted on 11/16/2006 7:00:32 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: TexKat
It would appear to me that if this is true that some of the cable news reporters would be affected as well.

Ooo, like Dan Rather? Well, that wouldn't be such a great loss, now would it?

187 posted on 11/16/2006 7:01:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I wish the drive by media were all over there for some kind of awards ceremony.


188 posted on 11/16/2006 7:03:39 PM PST by easternsky
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To: RaceBannon; All
Does everyone here suddenly live in an alternate universe where they've forgotten everything they've learned about the media/MSM since 9/11 (well, since the President became... the President)?

MSM Mantra: IF IT HELPS BUSH, BURY IT: However you can. Period.

If anyone thinks that our men/women in uniform blew up a weapons cache & found WMD, and the MSM will be cutting each other down to break the story first... you have a terrible memory.

Still think we DIDN'T find any WMD in Iraq?

Here is ONE story about WMD found in Iraq... and it was ANTHRAX:

In Dec 2003, UNMOVIC found a bunch of bombs (exact number unknown, up to poss. 1400) filled with anthrax. The strain of anthrax was the same strain Iraq previously said it weaponized, but also destroyed. So, this story was released not only after the discovery of the bombs, but after their contents were tested, confirmed, and then compared to earlier strains of said contents. WMD.

TWO media outlets carried the story online: USATODAY and CANOE, Canada (Canoe's link no longer works).

Not many people heard about THAT one either.

189 posted on 11/16/2006 7:04:48 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: RaceBannon
Much prayer for the protection of our troops!

Thank you for this information, Race. Please keep us posted.

190 posted on 11/16/2006 7:06:12 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Zhangliqun

Great post. And I like your tag line!


191 posted on 11/16/2006 7:08:09 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: TexKat

Here's a better Google News search:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&scoring=d&q=%2210th+Mountain%22+OR+%22tenth+mountain%22%2C+DIV+OR+division


192 posted on 11/16/2006 7:09:25 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: cgk

Thank you.



193 posted on 11/16/2006 7:11:05 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: TexKat; RaceBannon
Nothing on google news, yahoo news, clusty, or any of the networks.

Nothing on Haartez or Sky news.

Nothing on it on the jihadi sites that I check.

Nothing on "Islamic Iraq State" jihadi propaganda site and they're quick about putting up their drivel:
http://press-release.blogspot.com/

I'm suspicious since this supposedly occurred 36+ hours ago.
I don't like that a division is named.

IMO, RaceBannon and I respect you - this should be pulled.

194 posted on 11/16/2006 7:11:10 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: All

Great - slam - bam - wham - there actually was WMD in Iraq. Now what?


195 posted on 11/16/2006 7:11:36 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: jveritas; RaceBannon

II. SADDAM REGIME WMD PROGRAMS: TRANSLATED DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW SADDAM REGIME CONTINUOUS WORK ON WMD PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, POTENTIAL STOCKS OF CHEMICALS WEAPONS (CALLED SPECIAL AMMUNITION), AND DECEPTION OF THE U.N INSPECTORS ABOUT HIS WMD PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts

Iraqi Documents: Projects to Rebuild Saddam Nuclear Facilities http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718125/posts

Iraqi Documents Show Plans for Prohibited Nuclear Projects http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709390/posts

Iraqi Documents Rebut the Senate Intelligence Report on WMD. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1703710/posts

2001 Document: Manufacturing of Chemical Warfare Decontamination Trailers http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1692741/posts

2002 Document: Request for Precursor That Can Be Used To Make VX Nerve Gas http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1695883/posts

Document: Iraqi Dissident Talks About WMD Moved to Syria http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1671897/posts

2003 UN Report: Iraq Sulfur Mustard Gas Chemical Weapons Have High Quality After 12 years of Storage http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1653841/posts

2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642403/posts

Iraqi Documents: Plans To Produce Prohibited Chemical Weapons Precursors http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657480/posts

Iraqi Document: Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1651626/posts

2002 Document: Request For 500 KG Of SODIUM CYANIDE A Precursor For A Chemical Weapon http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637240/posts

2002 Document: Plan To Produce Mobile Laboratories http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1631022/posts

2001 Top Secret Document: Production of Prohibited Nerve Gas Detectors http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1624797/posts

Document: Saddam Ordered Biological And Radiation Test on Presidential Sites Attacked by US in 1998

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1653280/posts

1999, 2000 Iraqi memos: Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620565/posts

Undated Document: Change Chemical, Nuclear, And Missiles Sites for Fear of Western Attack http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1621334/posts

2001, 2002 Iraqi Memos: SECRET NUCLEAR PROJECT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620262/posts

September 1998 Document: Secret Research Programs Related to WMD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613509/posts

1997 Document: Orders To Remove All Information Related To WMD From Computers http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611976/posts

Summer 2002 Document: Destruction And Hiding of WMD Documents and Archives http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614115/posts

Document Dated February/3/2003: Chemical Gears for The Chemical Group http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603039/posts

Saddam Regime Document Dated January 2003: The French and German Connections which include a story about WMD transfer to Syria http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603917/posts<

Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602985/posts

Saddam Regime Document: SADDAM MET WITH HIS NUCLEAR GROUP IN 2002 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1608944/posts


196 posted on 11/16/2006 7:14:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: VaMarVet
You illustrate your own point by making assertions you don't want to back up ("you proved my point" - how?) and going uber-petty by focusing on my use of block caps -- instead of being a man and telling me where/how/why I am wrong. (Besides, you forgot to mention my equally clever use of italics...I feel insulted! sob...sniff...)

Then you admit you didn't even read the whole post! And this on top of completely ignoring my first post calling you out on this. And then you have the chutzpah to tell ME (uh-oh, the dread block caps!) that I'm the one who doesn't want to hear alternatives?

So I'll bite -- go ahead and EXPLAIN your alternative. MAKE THE CASE for it. Don't run for the exit from this debate Dem-style, stand up and make your case. (And try not to be so easily distracted by the BLOOOOOCK CAAAAAAAAAPPPPPS!!!!!!)

197 posted on 11/16/2006 7:15:02 PM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: Calpernia
SADDAM REGIME WMD PROGRAMS: TRANSLATED DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW SADDAM REGIME CONTINUOUS WORK ON WMD PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, POTENTIAL STOCKS OF CHEMICALS WEAPONS (CALLED SPECIAL AMMUNITION), AND DECEPTION OF THE U.N INSPECTORS ABOUT HIS WMD PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

Again, so what? Add something constructive to how we now win this war.

198 posted on 11/16/2006 7:16:29 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: Velveeta

It seems too close to Baghdad to be kept so quiet,,so.....


199 posted on 11/16/2006 7:16:37 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I can believe keeping it quiet for a few hours, but an entire day?


200 posted on 11/16/2006 7:18:52 PM PST by jmc1969
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