Roger that. I want one of those cell phones!
Posted on 11/16/2006 8:23:50 PM PST by Arec Barrwin
Mostafa Tabatabainejad, 23, was tasered after he refused to provide ID and would not leave. He starts screaming
"DON"T TOUCH ME! Don't touch-zzzzzzzzzzzt!" "Here's your Patriot Act! Here's your-zzzzzzzzzzt!"
Lesson #1: When the police ask you to do something, do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E
As in most videos of police actions though we do not see what prompted the police appearance. I am sure we will hear more about this, but bottom line is, if you do what you are told you usually do not get hurt.
Smart-mouthed kids gets zapped.
Cops may have overused the zapper, by one or two. Can't really tell.
Punk kid deserved most of it.
Could not have happened to a more deserving guy.....
It's a pretty simple formula really. When the cops tell you to do something...you do it. It just simplifies everything for everybody. And helps you avoid getting tazed/beaten/shot. Which this screaming brat clearly deserved.
SIR!!! YES SIR!!!!
Zotted in a library by rent a cops for refusing to provide ID??? Give me a break, there better be MUCH more to this story, or this guy deserves to own that campus. If his name was not Tabawhatevah, but "Kingsfield Cromwell IV" or some such, would you think any differently?
Civil rights are a luxury available only to those who comply in the face of the cover of uniform.
This video should be required viewing for all high school graduates headed to a post secondary, educational facility.
Two comments:
1) The bystanders are 6-year-olds in 20-year-old bodies
2) The person taking the video is an imbecile
ucla sucks - trust me.
Some of the STUPIDEST cops I have ever seen. They are also of course CHICKENS.
Had they tried this in a poor neighborhood in LA they would have had a full scale riot on their hands and their butts kicked. So this is what we have come to, bullies cannot get away with bullying poor people as much so they join college police departments and bully respectable people who will not riot. And they came close to having a riot among college kids in the library.
And I could care less that the kid was probably a punk and mouthy. Neither are against the law.
You're wrong on a single count...
Student says "Here's your patriot act"... Admission of guilt...
I saw this vid a bit earlier today, after getting an email from the Politech listserv. The email said the kid was 'quietly studying.' Ok, and the police come in and taser and drag your ass away because you are quietly studying. Right. I wonder what else he was up to?
I'm a grad student, previously practiced law, and have worked in a law library. I have spent a good part of my life in academic libraries. I have yet to see the cops come up and drag someone out of their carrel for 'studying while muslim' or anything else.
Agree. Police telling him "Get Up" over and over. Why not just pick him up or handcuff him then pick him up. Does not look like appropriate use of a Taser to me. Tasers are used to stop someone with a knife or other weapon, not to make someone "get up".
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1739283/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739527/posts?page=1,50
Right...another student just happened to have a video camera on him or her? They really weren't expecting to have anything to video. Just a coincidence. Smells like a setup to me.
After the 37th "Stand Up" I quit the video. As others have said, obey the police and you won't have a problem. Resist them and you are going to be in a world of hurt.
Roger that. I want one of those cell phones!
1) The bystanders are 6-year-olds in 20-year-old bodies
2) The person taking the video is an imbecile
Nailed it right on the head.
If the guy is not authorized to be in the library, he is trespassing. The school has a right to have him removed. He failed to produce ID showing that he was not trespassing. The police asked him to move, he didn't. He paid the consequences and squealed like a girl.
He got what he deserved.
"Right...another student just happened to have a video camera on him or her? They really weren't expecting to have anything to video. Just a coincidence. Smells like a setup to me. "
You might be right, but it could have been just some other student with a video cell phone . I don't know if there is a phone that can shoot almost 7 minutes of video, though. I can only get about a minute and a half out of mine.
Sorry, I think that its funny as hell.
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Yeah I watched it twice and it was just as hilarious.
ROTFLMAO
So you know this how? Since you and I happened not to have been there, you have possibly justified ONE shock. How exactly do you justify the rest of the shocks and the rest of their actions, including the rare feat of almost provoking a riot in a LIBRARY?
What to bet their supervisor and the university police are please with their efforts in that library?
That depends entirely on the memory card -- if you replace the minimal one that usually comes with the phone and put in a 1 GB or so, you should be able to get quite a bit on there.
CAIR-LA CALLS FOR PROBE OF UCLA TASER INCIDENT
Student given multiple stun gun shocks by campus police
(ANAHEIM, CA, 11/16/06) - The Southern California office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-LA) today called for an independent investigation of an incident late Tuesday in which a student at the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) was given multiple “Taser” stun gun shocks by campus police.
CAIR-LA was contacted by several UCLA students who expressed their concern about possible civil rights violations by police officers.
The incident began when the student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was asked to leave a computer lab after he failed to produce a student ID during a random check. The entire incident was captured on video by another student. While being stunned, Tabatabainejad informed the officers he had a medical condition.
(I smell setup. More===>http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.)php/features/articles/call_for_probe_of_ucla_muslim_student_taser_incident/
not-a-ping
And I could care less that the kid was probably a punk and mouthy. Neither are against the law.
Lighten up mon frere. He did break the law. He was trespassing. He didn't get tased before he started screaming (LMAO)"don't touch me!", then "i have a medical condition!"(ROTFl). Then he resisted arrest.
Listen to the video without watching it and you'll hear all the abuse (m-f) which is assault in some places--but then you'd miss the priceless third tase (legs kicking up).
I have a feeling this is going to be looping on my box for a while.
It's against federal law for anyone other than a sworn law enfrocement officer to operate a taser. The kid was defying police officers, not "rent a cops."
From the Daly Bruin:
"At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately."
The person could not/would not produce an ID. He was therefore, trespassing and the police asked him to leave. He refused. He got tazed.
It's UCLA. So yeah, someone might very well have a video camera with them at all times. Not to mention cel phone video recording.
The kid was wrong not to leave when asked, but I dunno about all the tasing.
Seems to be justified, the youngster had a weapon of mass delusion.
"Seems to be justified, the youngster had a weapon of mass delusion"
He traded it in for a mass of electrocution.
"Some of the STUPIDEST cops I have ever seen. They are also of course CHICKENS.
Had they tried this in a poor neighborhood in LA they would have had a full scale riot on their hands and their butts kicked. So this is what we have come to, bullies cannot get away with bullying poor people as much so they join college police departments and bully respectable people who will not riot. And they came close to having a riot among college kids in the library.
And I could care less that the kid was probably a punk and mouthy. Neither are against the law."
You have my pity.
How many times should a cop have to say, "Stand up" before the fool has to either comply or be zapped?
The fool was trying to be a martyr...he was just a fool.
No, the kid was tasered for refusing to leave the library. I am sure there was some back and forth that went on before the kid was tasered.
Who cares about this anyway? I don't get what the big deal is. The kid defied the authorities and he got tasered. It may have been an over reaction by the campus police, but maybe not. We don't have enough information to make any judgement.
How would one know that he is a student if he couldn't produce a student ID? Just by saying so?
I don't know of a cell phone that can record that long. I've got a 2 gig card in mine and I don't think I can take a clip that long. the quality looked much too good for a cell phone video clip.
If he didn't produce his ID, he was tresspassing, student or not. When he was asked to leave and didn't, he was trespassing.
I am not saying the cops should have not arrested him. I am not even saying they should not have shocked him ONCE to control him.
But cops only get to arrest, NOT PUNISH. They should have arrested and removed him, if he had done something to deserve arrest. Instead they took it upon their chicken selves to keep shocking someone who did not appear to be a threat at all to anyone.
And the bigger point is that peace officers have a larger duty to keep the peace. It is not their job to start a riot in a library.
At around the five minute mark on the tape, we see the subject in handcuffs and the officers expressing frustration that he would not "get up." We then see him tased. But a tasing is all about getting a subject on the ground, not compelling him to rise to his feet. It's about subduing a subject, not making him mobile.
A taser should only be used if a subject poses a combative threat prior to being handcuffed, so that officers can immobilize him and handcuff him. From what I can see on the tape, it doesn't look like that was the case here.
These officers better hope they have some friendly witnesses in the crowd, and a convincing justification for the actions they took.
That would be a matter for a court to determine. Had they merely given him a ticket for tresspassing it would have gone to trial possibility we would have seen what CA law says about the requirement to show papers. We may still since I would imagine he was charge or more typically charged with resisting etc to try to get him to plead out.
"But cops only get to arrest, NOT PUNISH."
The police were tying to get him to comply with verbal instructions. The knucklehead refused. The police persisted in trying to get the guy to comply. I don't view that as punishment.
Now, if they thumped him while he was in the squad car, that's punishment.
"They should have arrested and removed him, if he had done something to deserve arrest."
He was trespassing and refused to comply with a police officer's orders. He deserved to be arrested. The police then arrested him and had him removed.
From what I've read, the perp was trying to start a riot. ZAAAPPPPP!!!!!!
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