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Screw you, Nevada!
Las Vegas City Life ^ | 17 Nov 06 | Steve Sebilis

Posted on 11/17/2006 4:23:15 AM PST by rellimpank

ON SATURDAY, IT BEGAN.

I was sitting at a table in my favorite cigar bar, drinking a Duckhorn pinot noir, and enjoying a Bolivar cigar that was part of my recent haul at Cigar Aficionado's Big Smoke evening. The house band had just started up. Life was good.

And then she walked in. The Woman with the Dirty Looks.

Apparently, she'd missed the sign outside that identified the establishment as the "Havana Cigar Company." And the walk-in humidor with its hundreds of cigars. And the counter, where cigarettes, lighters and all manner of cigar

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--suddenly, a doctrinaire left-winger gets it--
1 posted on 11/17/2006 4:23:15 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: SheLion

smoking ping


2 posted on 11/17/2006 4:26:38 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: rellimpank

Now he knows how gun owners feel in about half the states of this country.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 4:28:13 AM PST by GnL
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To: rellimpank

This guy has a great way with words. My sentiments exactly!


4 posted on 11/17/2006 4:31:36 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: rellimpank
a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good.

Ohhhhhh, you mean the democrat party. Well, I guess they're just smarter than all of us. /sarc
5 posted on 11/17/2006 4:32:53 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: rellimpank
A smokeless Poker table? Next thing you know they'll be requiring cholesterol checks at Macdonald's prior to ordering.
6 posted on 11/17/2006 4:33:59 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: GnL

SSebelius@lvcitylife.com.


-contct him here--


7 posted on 11/17/2006 4:35:53 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank
(Another snip from the article)

First the smoke-banners have to finish what they started. Buffy Martin, the lobbyist for the American Cancer Society, told the Las Vegas Sun that banning smoking in casinos and in bars that find ways around the ban is "absolutely" on the horizon. Why?

"We have a duty to protect every single worker in this state," she told the paper. "I do think Nevada will become 100 percent smoke free in the future."

I think we should take people like Martin at her word: She won't rest until the last cigarette is pried from the lips of the last smoker in the last bar in this town. All for their own good, of course.

Listen, I'm under no illusions....

But I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good. Because such people are more dangerous than a truck full of cigarettes.

...I asked manager Michael Hackett why I shouldn't be allowed to smoke in a bar. Children aren't allowed there. People who choose to show up there know what they'll find. What's the harm?

He had no answer. But that's because the real answer is that people like Martin and Hackett think they know better what's good for you than you do.

8 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:26 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: rellimpank

Yuppies think if I don't smoke, they will live for ever.


9 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:27 AM PST by Comus
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To: rellimpank
That's a good article. As much as I can't stand smoking why the hell would someone sit in an establishment that is designed for SMOKING?

This is a perfect example of some chick walking around with her giant "Offend Me" bubble.

10 posted on 11/17/2006 4:38:33 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: yankeedame
First the smoke-banners have to finish what they started. Buffy Martin, the lobbyist for the American Cancer Society, told the Las Vegas Sun that banning smoking in casinos and in bars that find ways around the ban is "absolutely" on the horizon. Why?

Because no one has learned the lesson when Carrie Nation's folly was carried to a national level?


11 posted on 11/17/2006 4:40:07 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: rellimpank
I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good.

AMEN to that.

12 posted on 11/17/2006 4:43:55 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: rellimpank

"But I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good. Because such people are more dangerous than a truck full of cigarettes."

I couldn't agree more


13 posted on 11/17/2006 4:43:59 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: yankeedame
Is the lovely lady going to insist on a sun shield over the entire state to protect it's citizens from skin cancer too.

There is no end to the meddling.

14 posted on 11/17/2006 4:48:52 AM PST by OldFriend (WEAKNESS IS A PROVOCATION, AN INVITATION TO OUR FOES TO CONFRONT US)
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To: rellimpank
The smoke Nazis are going for the jugular now. Vegas? No Smoking?

Next thing you know they will outlaw gambling because, well, it's for my own good. Wouldn't want me to lose MY money.

I am so sick of this socialist crap I could puke!

15 posted on 11/17/2006 4:49:33 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: rellimpank

Nevada needs to move to a drug free state and then move to the no smoking issue. See if they have any success with that.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 4:50:26 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: rellimpank

I'd love to quote the last line. Love it!


17 posted on 11/17/2006 4:54:00 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: snowsislander
This from Wikipedia:

Some sources indicate that her mother went through periods where she had delusions of being Queen Victoria, and that young Carrie was often tended to in the slave quarters as a result.

18 posted on 11/17/2006 4:55:01 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: rellimpank
I quit smoking 4 years ago due to a disabling heart attack, but I will support a smoker to the bitter end...

I do not believe that a certain group of snob nosed idiots running around this country because they have nothing better to do, can tell a select group how to live....

These tight mouthed, snob nosed idiots are the same ones that banned sex from the front-room, the kitchen, the bathroom...so you know what your dealing with...

There isn't a one of the tight lipped females that have a set of kahunas amongst them that have the guts to stand up face to face, eyeball to eyeball to any one and tell them to quit smoking or to stop having sex....if they did, we wouldn't have these stupid laws going into effect....

Oh and another thing, I don't believe for a minute the rat crap that comes out of their mouths about your health insurance, hospital insurance, etc....we're financing illegals aren't we???? So send them back so we can cover the smokers needs....

Yes, by the way, I'm running for POTUS....;)
19 posted on 11/17/2006 4:56:27 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: geezerwheezer
This guy has a great way with words.

I liked the way he concluded the article (cuss words and all).

"We have a duty to protect every single worker in this state. I do think Nevada will become 100 percent smoke free in the future." [said Buffy Martin, the lobbyist for the American Cancer Society]

I think we should take people like Martin at her word: She won't rest until the last cigarette is pried from the lips of the last smoker in the last bar in this town. All for their own good, of course.

Well, f___ that.

And to all the women (and men) with the dirty looks, a simple message: F___ you, too.

20 posted on 11/17/2006 4:56:35 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: snowsislander

21 posted on 11/17/2006 5:06:42 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
A smokeless Poker table?

I've only been to LV once, two years ago, but the poker rooms in both places I played (Horseshoe and Orleans) were smoke-free. In the Indian casinos here in OK, poker is smoke-free.

22 posted on 11/17/2006 5:11:15 AM PST by T-Bird45
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To: New Perspective

As if any of these people cares about anyone's health. I believe they are out to set up money making schemes for themselves to benefit from. Just like the poverty industry, we will have more of the policing industry - actual fron-line workers, paid committee members, people doing studies, congressional supervision, a Cabinet Secretary in charge of, and on and on. Just like health care. Same deal.


23 posted on 11/17/2006 5:17:44 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Gabz; TonyRo76

Freedom ping.

Nevada passed a smoke ban? Unbelieveable.

Read the whole article, it's a good one.


24 posted on 11/17/2006 5:21:34 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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To: rellimpank
I sent him the link and invited him to join the conversation.
:O)
25 posted on 11/17/2006 5:28:11 AM PST by metesky (My investment portfolio is holding steady @ .05? a can.)
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To: Leisler
I think you should have posted this picture next to Carrie Nation:

Harry Anslinger
26 posted on 11/17/2006 5:41:22 AM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I'd love to quote the last line. Love it!

So would I.

27 posted on 11/17/2006 5:42:56 AM PST by processing please hold
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To: New Perspective

Goes to show that some people have too much time on their hands and have nothing better to do, I wonder if they ever worked in a real job.


28 posted on 11/17/2006 5:48:00 AM PST by stbdside
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; ...
smoking ping

Screw you, Nevada!

My sentiments exactly!  The last adult frontier.  How in the hell did they let this happen to them.

Well, I won't be planning on a Vegas trip anytime soon.  If I want to gamble, I will go online.

If I want to shop, I will go online.

And I can smoke here at home and Vegas lawmakers be damned AND the horse they rode in on!

   

29 posted on 11/17/2006 5:54:57 AM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: SheLion

I read an article yesterday that quotes the antis saying if New Jersey won't ban smoking in Casinos then Atlantic City will do it. Yup, the city council is going to introduce a smaking ban in the casinos.


30 posted on 11/17/2006 5:57:33 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: SheLion

The nation outlawed online gambling... or, at least the gambling involving true profit. You can pseudo gamble just for kicks, if you like. But, isn't that kind of like smoking a nicotene-free cigarette? :)


31 posted on 11/17/2006 6:05:51 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: SheLion
Yeh, I got a new lapel/pocket button the other day.

"I smoke! Fu**in deal with it!"

32 posted on 11/17/2006 6:26:28 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Ooh, Buffy has a degree in Art History, so we must bow to her expertise in the realm of "public health."

Buffy Martin, Professional busybody:"Prior to her employment with the American Cancer Society, she served as a fundraiser and public affairs director for Planned Parenthood.

Buffy Martin

33 posted on 11/17/2006 7:12:06 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge; rellimpank; SheLion

Buffy sounds like a peach, doesn't she?

And by the way, according to your link since she has worked for them the ACS has "passed" anti-smoker legislation in 23 states...... Since when did anyone elect the ACS to do any legislating? And a further BTW - what the H3LL is a non-profit doing lobbying or legislating anyway?????


We need to get this witch's email addy and that of the ACS and find out what kind of hypocrites they are.....a Planned Parenthood fundraiser now fundraiser for the ACS, one promotes death and choice, the other is anti-schoice and (supposedly) about protecting life.


34 posted on 11/17/2006 7:20:09 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Gabz
Since when did anyone elect the ACS to do any legislating?

Exactly! I was ranting about this myself. Their arrogance is boundless.

I'd love to see the ACS lose their non-profit status for this crap.

35 posted on 11/17/2006 7:56:29 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Gabz
Buffy Martin Government Relations Director-Nevada buffy.martin@cancer.org
775-825-0409

Nazis 'R Us

36 posted on 11/17/2006 8:00:56 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

Oh boy.................


37 posted on 11/17/2006 8:18:19 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Gabz
I read an article yesterday that quotes the antis saying if New Jersey won't ban smoking in Casinos then Atlantic City will do it. Yup, the city council is going to introduce a smaking ban in the casinos.

Well, the dumb azzes lawmakers don't want either state to suffer, don't you know!  They want that wonderful level playing field.

38 posted on 11/17/2006 8:19:48 AM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

The nation outlawed online gambling... or, at least the gambling involving true profit. You can pseudo gamble just for kicks, if you like. But, isn't that kind of like smoking a nicotene-free cigarette? :)

ahhh I'm sorry.  But you have been miss-informed.  Gambling online is going bigger then ever.


39 posted on 11/17/2006 8:21:05 AM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: Just another Joe
Yeh, I got a new lapel/pocket button the other day.

"I smoke! Fu**in deal with it!"

High Five Joe!  Good for you!!!!


40 posted on 11/17/2006 8:23:27 AM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Buffy looks like a fat pig


41 posted on 11/17/2006 8:24:02 AM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: yankeedame

You stopped too short. The bit below where you stopped was priceless.

I was just about to post this before I saw your post.

The part about the 'Truckload of Cigarettes' was priceless.


42 posted on 11/17/2006 8:31:41 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: snowsislander

Your Carrie Nation reference is impressive. I'm one of her last remaining blood relatives (and a cigar smoking, Irish Whiskey drinking republican).

I'm sure she's spinning in her grave.


43 posted on 11/17/2006 8:33:43 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: rellimpank

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis


44 posted on 11/17/2006 8:35:47 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: rellimpank

Well, I didn't read the entire thing, but if a "left-winger suddenly gets it" I assume you mean he comes out heavily on the anti-cig-grabber side of the issue, i.e., the Libertarian or personal rights side. Well, if that's true let me tell you, that as a FINALLY non-smoker , for the second and final time, and it's now been THREE years since I have had a cigarette ( I never smoked cigars)AND ALSO a strident pro-gun, RKBA advocate, I see NO contradiction between these two positions. It wouldn't bother me a bit for states ,municipalities, or the Feds to issue a blanket law governing smoking in bars, restaurants, whatever. I would bridle at banning it in the open air, on the streets and sidewalks, or any place else where the daily rounds of my ordinary daily life would probably put me in proximity of smokers. Don't you think it might create a few problems if suddenly we had national laws that ALLOWED EVERYONE the RKBA and wear those arms in public? Don't you think every psycho would go out and buy a holster, and be entitiled to parade around with impunity ,intimidating total strangers with said firearm on public view?
The fact is, it is possible for non-smokers to side with the smokers, and it is possible for non-gun-owners (like me) to side with RKBA, TO AN EXTENT. BUT there is a tipping point which exists precisely at that intersection between common sense and the public good: everything I suppose is legislatable and adjudicatable, but there should be laws preventing the smelly homeless from congregating in public libraries ( a case we had years ago, in MOrristown, NJ, near where I live) and the smelly smokers from spewing out their toxic odors in places where I might ALSO be happening to congregate. I could go on..... but just for openers, that is where I am......


45 posted on 11/17/2006 8:41:15 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: rellimpank

I don't understand how a state that legalizes gambling and prostitution is so offended by - GASP! - smoking.


46 posted on 11/17/2006 8:42:49 AM PST by RockinRight (The loss is temporary, hopefully we learn from our mistakes.)
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To: rellimpank

salty words for a mainstream Nevada newspaper.


47 posted on 11/17/2006 8:47:35 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: rellimpank

Puffin' it up self-ping.


48 posted on 11/17/2006 8:50:16 AM PST by Mike-o-Matic
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To: advertising guy
--IMHO, City Life isn't quite mainstream---
49 posted on 11/17/2006 8:52:16 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: supremedoctrine
--Don't you think it might create a few problems if suddenly we had national laws that ALLOWED EVERYONE the RKBA and wear those arms in public? Don't you think every psycho would go out and buy a holster, and be entitiled to parade around with impunity ,intimidating total strangers with said firearm on public view?--

--no, I don't --I think we would have a much better society if it were armed along the lines of Heinlien's famous quote--

50 posted on 11/17/2006 8:55:23 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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