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Legislation Alert: Oppose Dietary Supplement & Non-Prescription Consumer Protection Act-DURBIN
Clinical Nutrition ^ | November 17th, 2006 | email

Posted on 11/17/2006 1:48:30 PM PST by shield

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Turbin Durbin is fast tracking this through the Lame Duck Session!!! Let's retain DSHEA rights.
1 posted on 11/17/2006 1:48:33 PM PST by shield
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To: shield

When they outlaw Gensing, only outlaws will have Gensing....


2 posted on 11/17/2006 1:54:21 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* I'm not an herbalist, but I play one on the Internet!)
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To: shield

Medicines which have been purified and demonstrated to be at least somewhat effective currently must undergo years of testing and development, before they are permitted on the market, and then frequently must be sold by presription only for decades.

Quackery made popular by urban legend and paranoia is sold unregulated until enough hundreds of people die that regulation is implemented to stem lawsuits.

This is sane?

DSHEA rights = snake oil.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 1:58:29 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: dangus

OH come on...


4 posted on 11/17/2006 2:00:42 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

This law should be passed. Most of the "supplements" on the market are no better than the snake oil of old, benefitting only the manufacturers and sellers. I'd like someone to tell me what "supports" means, as in "supports prostate health." Sheer quackery. Sorry, gang.


5 posted on 11/17/2006 2:00:59 PM PST by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Salvey

You're trusting the wrong sources of information. Sorry, guy.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 2:15:14 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: shield

>> OH come on... <<

Well, that's about as thoughtful and reasoned of a response as I could have hoped for. "Herbal Supplements": Darwin's answer to the Medicare crisis.


7 posted on 11/17/2006 2:24:03 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Ain't that the truth...


8 posted on 11/17/2006 2:25:13 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: ThePythonicCow

>>You're trusting the wrong sources of information. Sorry, guy. <<

And you're taking medical advice from the sorts of people who think that the Skull & Bones fraternity blew up the World Trade Center?


9 posted on 11/17/2006 2:27:32 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: Salvey

B.S.... and even my husbands Urologist told him that tests have proven SawPalmetto works for both BPH and elevated PSA levels....he advised my husband to take it and it did lower his PSA significantly.


10 posted on 11/17/2006 2:29:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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Maybe if you ate some healthy food, your brain would function again. Good luck.
11 posted on 11/17/2006 2:31:05 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: Salvey

Nonsense.

Ephedra worked so well it got banned.
Creatine works.

How about multi-vitamins? Branch Chain Aminos? All proven to work.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 2:32:55 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

... for the record, I am not denying the efficacy of all "natural supplements." In fact, I take taurine for ADD, and have taken SAM-e for mood regulation. (When I switched from Amphetamines to Taurine, I didn't need mood regulators anymore!) What I am criticizing is the paranoid shadow-medical industry.


13 posted on 11/17/2006 2:33:03 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Ephedra was a perfectly fine drug, which got banned because its improper use by alternative-medicine crazies resulted in scores of deaths. If anything the Ephedra incident is damning to alternative medicine, not mainstream medicine.


14 posted on 11/17/2006 2:39:31 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: ThePythonicCow

My brain's dysfunction is the result of severe hemmorhaging due to a fractured skull. I do find avoiding sugar improves its function, but the taurine helps compensate for poor flow of fluids into badly bruised regions.


15 posted on 11/17/2006 2:42:54 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: dangus

Incidentally, the SAM-e had less effect than Effexor, despite costing four times as much... and that's withOUT medical insurance! I now use neither.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 2:46:29 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: dangus; Salvey
Blanket statements condeming supplements like Salvey made show a complete lack of knowledge about supplements and their place in our diet. Granted, if we lived in a perfect world where everyone ate a perfect diet, grown in perfect soil, and got 8 hours sleep, were never exposed to harmful chemicals or toxins then maybe we wouldn't need supplements.

I put my Lupus into complete remission over ten years ago using a healthy diet and supplements. I based this on a book written by an MD who became frustrated trying to treat Lupus with the only other alternative, steroids. I have never looked back and I don't take steroids.

My mother "had" chronic serum hepatitis and the doctors said she was dying, she started taking supplements, specifacally formulated for healing the liver and immune system. Her doctor laughed at her and said it won't kill you... well, it not only didn't kill her, she got better. When their drugs had not helped at all, resulting in withdrawal of the drugs and telling her they had done all they could and she was dying. When she started improving they did a new liver biopsy and the doctor came into her room and asked what book she read, her liver had totally regenerated. That was 30 years ago. She is still alive and she has never relapsed.

So... Dick Durbin can take a leap off the nearest bridge IMO....

17 posted on 11/17/2006 2:52:29 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: shield

Yeah, let's keep the Snake-Oil salesmen in business.


18 posted on 11/17/2006 2:52:30 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: dangus

SAM-E has to be taken with a good balanced B COmplex. Were you taking them together?


19 posted on 11/17/2006 2:53:33 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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"Ephedra was a perfectly fine drug, which got banned because its improper use by alternative-medicine crazies resulted in scores of deaths."

Hardly, the few deaths I recall that arguably linked to ephedra were kids with pre-existing heart conditions --- that misued it by taking too many and working out in the hot Sun with no water.

This is just more nanny-statism.


20 posted on 11/17/2006 2:57:45 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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