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Al-Qaeda's ‘best assets’ prime UK timebomb
Sunday Telegraph ^ | 19/11/2006 | Sean Rayment

Posted on 11/19/2006 7:52:15 AM PST by george76

British Muslims volunteering to fight against coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are being sent back to Britain to become al-Qaeda "sleeper" agents, The Sunday Telegraph has learned.

MI5 agents believe that young Asian men, who have been trained to take part in the so-called "global jihad" in al-Qaeda camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan, are now regarded as too valuable an asset to be used fighting British and American troops.

MI5 and MI6 are working on the assumption that they are being ordered to return to their communities in Britain with instructions to establish secret, autonomous cells and to conduct independent terrorists operations without any direct input from al-Qaeda's high command.

Security sources claim that al-Qaeda is unlikely to send a British passport holder to his death as a suicide bomber in Iraq when he would be far more valuable as a "sleeper" in Britain.

MI5 fears that it is impossible to estimate how many British Muslims have attended training camps over the past decade or how many are back in the UK planning attacks.

Hundreds of thousands of people travel from Britain to Pakistan every year, mostly to visit relatives or do business.

The challenge facing the intelligence services, say security sources, is to discover which among them are travelling for "nefarious" reasons.

The warning was made as the Prime Minister is visiting Pakistan, where British terrorists are known to have undergone training.

Security sources have also warned of the danger facing Britain from radicalised Muslims who are currently fighting as part of the insurgency in Iraq.

impossible for MI5, given its current level of resources — it has 2,800 staff — to disrupt every terrorist plot being hatched against Britain.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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sleeper cells.
1 posted on 11/19/2006 7:52:16 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

Simple solution: Profiling & deportation.


2 posted on 11/19/2006 7:58:21 AM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Apercu

Deport them all


3 posted on 11/19/2006 7:59:23 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MadIvan; Mrs Ivan; vimto

MI5 agents believe that young Asian men...

In the states, we think of Chinese, Japanese...when they says Asian...


4 posted on 11/19/2006 8:02:12 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
says...say...


5 posted on 11/19/2006 8:05:36 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

"MI5 agents believe that young Asian men, who have been trained to take part in the so-called "global jihad" in al-Qaeda camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan, are now regarded as too valuable an asset to be used fighting British and American troops."

The terrorists that are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan are just "cannon fodder" who keep our troops busy but who have little value in the global jihad movement.

It is better to stop the inflow of Muslim immigrants and to start looking in the local mosque for the real terrorists. I have always felt that the war in Iraq was just a diversion of the real invasion at home.


6 posted on 11/19/2006 8:14:16 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: 353FMG

" I have always felt that the war in Iraq was just a diversion of the real invasion at home. "

The terrorists have tried repeatedly to attack us since 9-11.

And they will continue to try to kill us.

IMO


7 posted on 11/19/2006 8:19:54 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

There have been MANY attacks thwarted here at home, and hopefully one out of hundreds won't be successful.


8 posted on 11/19/2006 8:24:14 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: george76

The Idiot King.


9 posted on 11/19/2006 8:24:46 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: 353FMG

The British taxpayers should not be supporting that fool !

IMO


10 posted on 11/19/2006 8:27:37 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: girlangler

According to a new poll of British Muslims, 37% of the 500 adults surveyed viewed Anglo-Jewry as "a legitimate target as part of the struggle for justice in the Middle East."

More than half believed British Jews exerted too much influence over foreign policy.

46% believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics," a conspiracy theory Board of Deputies director-general Jon Benjamin found "completely bizarre."

More than a quarter of 18- to 24-year-olds said they agreed with the views of jailed hate preacher Abu Hamza.

http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/1040-Third-of-British-Muslims-View-UK-Jews-as-Legitimate-Target.html


11 posted on 11/19/2006 8:32:27 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Prince Charles ought to be kicked off the dole and be made to get a job. What a PC joke he's become.


12 posted on 11/19/2006 8:34:24 AM PST by blam
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To: 353FMG
Unfortunately our useless administration loves large-scale third-world migration so much, that muslim migration is actually increasing. Bush and company have given green cards to a half million alien muslims SINCE 9-11.
13 posted on 11/19/2006 8:41:01 AM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: blam

Did you see this UK report ?



THE JAIL RUN BY AL-QAEDA

The gang of thugs - known as The Muslim Boys - intimidate frightened inmates at Belmarsh into joining their faith, beating those who refuse their bullying demands.

Some bloodied victims have been slashed by razor blades attached to toothbrushes. Others have had boiling water hurled over them. Prisoners say they are in fear for their lives.

The brutal brotherhood - whose gang on the outside is the Yard's Public Enemy No 1 - also host weekly "religious" meetings where it is feared members are groomed for terrorism by al-Qaeda chiefs.

Watching guards are helpless to take action as they do not understand what is being said. Some have been attacked at the "services".

"We can't even tape the service and get it translated because it is against Human Rights. It's frightening."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16643308&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=exclusive%97the-jail-run-by-al-qaeda-name_page.html


14 posted on 11/19/2006 8:42:12 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

"Last week Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, the head of MI5, gave warning that it was just a matter of time before Britain was attacked with a chemical, biological or radiological weapon." I fear the same is true here in the United States, with all these people and trucks crosing the southern border unimpeded. I do not get why the UK and the US do not send all of these people back to their home countries and not allow them to leave, especailly when we know so much about what they are up to. Our governments are failing in their obligation to create a secure home environment for us by allowing all of these people to enter and try to destroy us.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 8:48:05 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Also Sweden and Thailand are having the same type of problems with these muzzies.

Apparently, the third largest city in Sweden is often off limits to the Swedish police.

The problems will only get much worse.

IMO


16 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:57 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The Brits are going to have to quit with the PC BS and bring back the death penalty and, start killing many, many Muslims. Start with the 'youths.'


17 posted on 11/19/2006 8:54:03 AM PST by blam
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To: george76
MI5 and MI6 are working on the assumption that they are being ordered to return to their communities in Britain with instructions to establish secret, autonomous cells and to conduct independent terrorists operations without any direct input from al-Qaeda's high command.

One man can make a difference. - tom


18 posted on 11/19/2006 8:58:29 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: blam
They also should also allow the average Brit to get armed.

With background checks and reasonable training, concealed carry would also help many small shop keepers defend themselves , too.
19 posted on 11/19/2006 8:59:28 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I think at some point there is going to be a horrible, even deadly backlash against Muslims in several countries that the governments could have prevented by enforcing some common sense immigration/security measures. I don't know how much of this murderous infiltration we are supposed to put up with before we strike back. As far as I'm concerned, we could deport every single one of them, legal and illegal, tomorrow, and I would be happy.


20 posted on 11/19/2006 9:00:39 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

The muzzie populations in some countries are getting very high.

All over Europe, they have been letting in millions and their birth rates are huge.

and DUmmies want to be nice ( so as to be beheaded last ).

.


21 posted on 11/19/2006 9:08:12 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Whoever goes to Pakistan, stays in Pakistan. Make it a slogan, like the one Vegas uses.


22 posted on 11/19/2006 9:19:59 AM PST by milemark (Headbutt: apply directly to the forehead. Headbutt: apply directly to the forehead.)
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To: george76

What's a little 'blowback' when your King Of The World?

America at War in Macedonia

http://www.spectrezine.org/war/Macedonia.htm

A discreet deal in the pipeline
Nato mocked those who claimed there was a plan for Caspian oil ?Special report: the petrol war
George Monbiot
Thursday February 15, 2001
Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,4136440-103677,00.html

Bosnia II: The Clinton Administration Sets Course for NATO Intervention in Kosovo?Goals, Potential Costs, and Motives All Uncertain

http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1998/kosovo.htm


23 posted on 11/19/2006 9:27:23 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: blam
Prince Charles ought to be kicked off the dole and be made to get a job

He owns a lot of real estate and collects a lot of rents like Donald Trump. If the Queen's list of "those who take money from the public purse" were to be completely expunged the Royals would still survive intact. THey wouldn't be able to keep all their medieval castles and would give them to the national trust due to tax problems.

24 posted on 11/19/2006 9:31:53 AM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: dgallo51

" Muslim Rape Wave in Sweden "

celebrating diversity !

Not.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1540877/posts


25 posted on 11/19/2006 9:39:05 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Doesn't it all really boil down to: 'what is the meaning of rape? Oh…THAT woman.' Oops, I did it again.


26 posted on 11/19/2006 9:43:36 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51

Remember Bubba's advice..." put some ice on it ! "


27 posted on 11/19/2006 9:46:10 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Whatta guy…he gives the same advice as Dr. Laura Schlessinger. He missed his calling!
28 posted on 11/19/2006 9:49:02 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: x_plus_one

The UK govt receives far more money from the Royals than the royals receive from the govt. In 2004 the crown estates made a profit of £184.8m and govt money given to the monarchy and to fund buildings etc, etc was £36.8m. The Civil List is now set at £7.9m per annum and only funds Her Majesty the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh - all the other royals have to self-fund or ask their mom to help out.

When one includes the huge amount of tourist money brought into the country by the monarchy, I suspect they actually generate a net profit for the country.

I doubt you could run Air Force One for a year on what the civil list costs the UK taxpayer and the upside is we never end up with grubby democratic politicians like Carter or Clinton as our head of state going abroad and embarrassing us. . . . . ;-)


29 posted on 11/19/2006 9:55:08 AM PST by AngloSaxonChristian
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To: dgallo51; bitt

" Whatta guy…"

bump


30 posted on 11/19/2006 9:58:45 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The coffee is good this morning…"The Force Be With You":-)


31 posted on 11/19/2006 10:14:01 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: george76

1492, Ferdinand & Isabella [Spain].


32 posted on 11/19/2006 10:41:22 AM PST by GSlob
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To: dgallo51

Thanks.

and you...


33 posted on 11/19/2006 11:04:23 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

My, what a homely terrorist!


34 posted on 11/19/2006 11:10:43 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
My, what a homely terrorist!

(see post 5)

35 posted on 11/19/2006 11:12:07 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: 3AngelaD

"gave warning that it was just a matter of time before Britain was attacked with a chemical, biological or radiological weapon." I fear the same is true here in the United States, with all these people and trucks crosing the southern border unimpeded."

National suicide. Those who allow these people into the country must be held RESPONSIBLE and punished accordingly right after the next terrorist attack takes place.


36 posted on 11/19/2006 11:18:02 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

"My, what a homely terrorist!"

What you don't see in this picture is the organ grinder standing behind this monkey.


37 posted on 11/19/2006 11:34:03 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: blam

Well, the good thing is that his "hat" (whatever the hell muslims call it) doubles as a commode.


38 posted on 11/19/2006 11:36:36 AM PST by Levante
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To: george76

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Sounds like a lot of Americans.

I went and had my hair cut the other day, and got a lecture from the hairdresser about why we shouldn't ever send young men and women to war. The girl who normally cuts my hair wasn't there at the time, and her young fiance is doing his second tour in Iraq now.

I asked her if she remembered the 3,000 people killed here on our soil on 9/11? Asked her what did she call that if not war?

After a long debate about why we have to defend our country she revealed she doesn't even vote, which doesn't surprise me. A military expert who has never even voted. This country is full of them.


39 posted on 11/19/2006 1:46:48 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: george76

#5----There he is, apparently dressed as one of Camilla's tampons.----(reference available for explanation upon request)


40 posted on 11/19/2006 2:06:52 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: panaxanax

See my post #40


41 posted on 11/19/2006 2:10:32 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: AngloSaxonChristian
I doubt you could run Air Force One for a year on what the civil list costs the UK taxpayer and the upside is we never end up with grubby democratic politicians like Carter or Clinton as our head of state going abroad and embarrassing us. . .

You are so right -

42 posted on 11/19/2006 2:27:37 PM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: girlangler

The good news is that she does not vote.


43 posted on 11/19/2006 3:45:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

"The good news is that she does not vote."

There's more good news in addition to that -- after our debate, I still have hair!!!!!

Grrrr.


44 posted on 11/19/2006 4:44:19 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

LOL

"There's more good news in addition to that -- after our debate, I still have hair!!!!!

Grrrr. "


45 posted on 11/19/2006 6:13:56 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
In the states, we think of Chinese, Japanese...

It's another division of our common language - that's who we would refer to as oriental.

46 posted on 11/19/2006 11:35:16 PM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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