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Study says boomers don't like what's on TV
Associated Press ^ | 11-19-06 | DAVID BAUDER

Posted on 11/19/2006 8:53:37 PM PST by Snickering Hound

NEW YORK — Americans born between 1946 and 1964 are accustomed to being catered to, but that's not the case with much of television today. Now there's some new evidence that they're finding this mighty irritating.

A study conducted by Harris Interactive suggests that the television industry's obsession with youth is backfiring.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they believe that most TV programming and advertising is targeted toward people under 40, the survey said. More than 80 percent of adults over 40 say they have a hard time finding TV shows that reflect their lives.

A significant number of baby boomers — 37 percent — say they aren't happy with what's on television, according to the study.

"The amount of people dissatisfied with television overall was a pretty big eye-opening thing for us," said Larry Jones, president of the TV Land cable network, which commissioned the study.

To a certain extent, the generation that decades ago warned against trusting people over 30 can blame itself for the predicament. The TV industry's slavish devotion to ratings within the 18-to-49-year-old demographic started when most baby boomers fit into that group.

The theory among advertisers is that it's important to reach young people as their preferences are forming — get them hooked on a certain toothpaste or soda early and they'll be hooked for life. Advertisers will pay a premium for young viewers: $335 for every thousand people in the 18-to-24 age range that a network delivers, for example. Viewers aged 55-to-64 are worth only $119 for every thousand, according to Nielsen Media Research.

That's why ABC and NBC conduct all of their business with advertisers in the 18-to-49 demo. From a financial standpoint, if you're 50 or over, you mean nothing to those networks' executives. For Fox, the CW, MTV, BET and countless other networks, even 40 is too old.

The peak year for births within the baby boom, Jones noted, was 1957 — meaning all those people are turning 49 this year.

Much of the television industry isn't aging with them.

"They've just never changed or haven't realized that the population has moved on," said Randy Berkowitz, vice president of research for Combe Inc., which makes health products and beauty aids.

Berkowitz believes that "people are just not in tune with TV because they can't relate to it anymore."

Jones, who's 46, said he wants to come home at night and see an entertainment program that appeals to his sensibilities. Some people may find Paris Hilton funny on "The Simple Life," for example — not him.

To a surprising extent, advertising is also alienating. The Harris Interactive study found that half of baby boomers say they tune out commercials that are clearly aimed at young people. An additional one-third said they'd go out of their way NOT to buy such a product.

"I'm not saying that every show, every network should reshape, but that's an awfully high level of dissatisfaction among the largest generation group of all time," said Ken Dychtwald, a psychologist who worked with Harris Interactive on the study. (Harris conducted an online survey of 4,220 adults between April 28-May 15 this year, with a sampling error of plus or minus 1.5 percent).

Some advertisers have responded to the aging population. Financial services firms, for example, see many potential customers advancing toward retirement. Two decades ago drug companies didn't advertise on TV; now you could fill a medicine cabinet with all the products hawked on the evening news.

But these were cases where the companies making these products saw the opportunity, not necessarily the TV industry, Berkowitz said.

TV Land's Jones is already using the survey in his business. The results have convinced him that, more than ever, his network of mostly classic TV shows should be boomer-centric, he said. He also comes armed with the survey when he meets with the Madison Avenue types who buy advertising time.

One statistic he's sure to cite: The survey found 51 percent of the postwar generation describe themselves as "open to new ideas." Meanwhile, only 12 percent of young adults think the older folks feel that way.

Why does that matter? Jones said the average media buyer or planner is under 30. Many are undoubtedly hired for their know-how in appealing to a specific generation, and it isn't the baby boomers.

"There is this huge perception versus reality situation in the marketplace," he said.

Jones is pushing the idea of a "middlescence," about 40-to-59-year-olds who don't feel young anymore but don't feel old, and have plenty of discretionary income.

With the continued carving of the television audience into smaller slices because of all the networks on the air, the chance for advertisers to reach particular niches increases, said Evan Shapiro, who had his own marketing firm and is now head of the Independent Film Channel. Shapiro, 37, doesn't buy the idea that there's nothing on TV for older viewers.

"If you are a 50-year-old male or female, there is an enormous amount of television for you," he said. "It's just not on all the places that it used to be."

Still, Shapiro said he senses that marketers are slowly waking up to the potential in older TV viewers.

But by the time it happens, the children of the baby boomers will be the focus, making their parents even more irrelevant in television's eyes, he said.


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1 posted on 11/19/2006 8:53:38 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
TV's not so bad. ....Gunsmoke is on every day on the TV Land channel.
2 posted on 11/19/2006 8:55:43 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Snickering Hound; qam1

Isn't CBS the network for old people... like Baby Boomers!

;-)


3 posted on 11/19/2006 8:55:44 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Except for history, football and a couple others, it is drivel.


4 posted on 11/19/2006 8:56:32 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Snickering Hound

It's not just the boomers.

I hear the hunter-killers aren't happy with what is on the tube either.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 8:58:33 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Expect a crush of anti-boomer responses.

But, as a boomer, I can only say that most shows on TV are just plain silly for any age. I still find things on cable like news, Discovery and the History Channel. And love a lot of HBO programs.

But the networks offer next to nothing.


6 posted on 11/19/2006 8:58:53 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: Incorrigible

No, CBS is for Gen-Xers whose brains are not well developed yet.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 9:00:15 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: yldstrk

8 posted on 11/19/2006 9:00:26 PM PST by Terpfen ("Conservatives" who sat at home cost us the War on Terror, SCOTUS, and economic success.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

James Arness as Matt Dillon was one of my childhood heroes.


9 posted on 11/19/2006 9:02:40 PM PST by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Snickering Hound
"The Harris Interactive study found that half of baby boomers say they tune out commercials that are clearly aimed at young people."

I tune out all commercials unless they are innovative. I detest drug commercials from Viagra to Lunesta. I like the Volvo commercial with the little girl and the iShares commercial where everything disappears, but I am not in the market for either of those things. I no longer watch any sitcoms. They are all retarded. I do not watch Survivor, American Idol or that Dancing with the Stars thingy. I like 24. I like House. I usually have FOX news on in the background. If I can't take anymore of Shep, I turn on History Channel. I am 55.

10 posted on 11/19/2006 9:04:13 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: yldstrk
Except for history, football and a couple others, it is drivel.

I agree.

11 posted on 11/19/2006 9:04:32 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: Terpfen

lol! Yes!


12 posted on 11/19/2006 9:04:38 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Terpfen

House is a great show. I see that jerk cop/DA guy coming down with something really bad only House can diagnose and won't do it for an extended period.


13 posted on 11/19/2006 9:04:41 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Snickering Hound

90% of everything is crap.


14 posted on 11/19/2006 9:04:45 PM PST by claudiustg ("We are entering an era where when the speaker instructs you what to do, you do it.")
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To: Snickering Hound

It's been years since I've been able to converse with the water cooler crowd about anything on regular TV. I don't know that it has anything to do with my being a so-called baby boomer, most of regular TV is junk.

Now, you want to talk football, Discovery Channel or History Channel and I'm all over it.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 9:05:38 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: Snickering Hound

With several hundred options on, I can't see how anyone can complain about TV, especially those who grew up with 3 networks, if they were lucky, in black & white.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 9:05:42 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: quikdrw
Mine too.

Did you see him on The O'Reilly Factor a couple weeks back? Great interview; Arness is a conservative, not surprisingly.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 9:05:59 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BunnySlippers
But the networks offer next to nothing.

I agree. In most network TV, the kids are disrespectful to their parents, or parents are treated as boobs, there is no respect for tradition or authority, and kids seem to live lives completely apart from any adult intervention or supervision. High schoolers have problems I didn't hear about until I was out of college.

I can't believe I'm saying this. I guess I am officially an old fogey (or an angry boomer, which is getting way too close to being the same thing).

18 posted on 11/19/2006 9:06:23 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Terpfen

Oooh...pardon me while I wipe the drool from my chin.

Yes, I do watch network tv for House.


19 posted on 11/19/2006 9:08:06 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: radiohead

Walton's Bump!


20 posted on 11/19/2006 9:08:09 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: radiohead

Network TV means "West Wing" where everyone congratulates themselves for being Liberals.


21 posted on 11/19/2006 9:08:28 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: Snickering Hound

I find TV is better than ever right now. I watch:

Prison Break
Heroes
Veronica Mars
Friday Night Lights
Lost
Smallville
Supernatural
Ghost Whisperer

I've never been much of a TV watcher, so it's incredible that there's that much for me to watch. I think it started by my wanting to watch HD programming, and these are the shows that stuck.

That said, probably at least half of that wouldn't appeal to the average boomer.


22 posted on 11/19/2006 9:09:18 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Snickering Hound
The TV lineup on the networks is pretty sad.

At least we have 24.

23 posted on 11/19/2006 9:10:27 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Snickering Hound

Haven't had tv since 1998. Wasteland for idiots.


24 posted on 11/19/2006 9:11:35 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: yldstrk
"Except for history, football and a couple others, it is drivel."
You are way too generous, unreasonably generous. Except for the extreme weather alerts, it is drivel or worse - what is there besides commercials, porn, idiocy, baboonery, perversion and leftism? It is well known that for every idiocy watched the viewer's IQ drops a fraction of a point. In '88 I had a TV for a few months, could not stand the crap and gave it away, and my wellbeing has improved mightily. Follow Michelangelo's dictum: "Clear them out of your life as the scandalous and evil-living lot they are", shun and boycott them and everyone who looks like them. The money you save on the cable alone over the lifetime, if invested prudently, could add to your retirement.
25 posted on 11/19/2006 9:11:41 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I remember wanting to watch Shirley Temple on Sundays, but my dad wanted to watch bowling. I do remember him griping about watching The Wizard of Oz yet AGAIN. Now I agree with him. We had 3 channels, but only 2 came in well. My mom ironed to Arthur Godfrey. One Christmas, we went to visit friends of my parents. I saw Perry Como's Christmas special in color. It wasn't too long after that that my dad bought our first color TV so he could watch Bonanza in color.


26 posted on 11/19/2006 9:12:12 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: yldstrk
"Except for history, football and a couple others, it is drivel."

I will watch Everybody Loves Raymond but that's about it for any sitcoms. I loved the mini-series Rome and can't wait for the next season. Other than that it's the History and Science Channels or nothing at all. I used to watch FOX practically all day but I turned off all TV and radio news two months ago because all they do is argue and say things like "Stay tuned... when we come back we have something to tell you that is really going to ruin your day." TV is terrible and the commercials are way, way too loud especially car commercials. But the worst is that loud mouth Billy Mays who sells Orange Glow. The man yells as loud as he can. I dive for the remote mute button as soon as I seen him on the TV.

27 posted on 11/19/2006 9:12:50 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Snickering Hound
Network TV isn't programed for anyone who THINKS regardless of age. If some FEEL they target certain age groups such as their own, the problem can somewhat negated by spending more time reading here, and maybe post once they have learned something.
28 posted on 11/19/2006 9:12:53 PM PST by ThomasThomas (......)
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To: Incorrigible

You may be right, I know we watch more CBS primetime programming than any of the other stations.


29 posted on 11/19/2006 9:13:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: radiohead

You have every right to say that. Kids ARE disrepectful to parents/adults in both the newer sitcoms and in cartoons. The tone of voice is whiney and demanding.


30 posted on 11/19/2006 9:13:49 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Rastus

I buy Prison Break and Lost on DVD. They are good.
Didn't know they are on networks.

Sitcoms are the problem.


31 posted on 11/19/2006 9:14:14 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: LouAvul

I'm with you. Since '88.


32 posted on 11/19/2006 9:15:20 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Rastus

I am completely unfamiliar with any of those shows.


33 posted on 11/19/2006 9:15:31 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Snickering Hound
An additional one-third said they'd go out of their way NOT to buy such a product.

LOL

Sometime within the last year or so I responded to a telephone survey about television advertising using almost the exact phrase, "I'd out of may way NOT to buy such a product."

I'm 49 years old.

34 posted on 11/19/2006 9:15:39 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Snickering Hound
I'm surprised people here haven't discussed why the Left-leaning nature of much TV programming is turning off way too many viewers, too.

The only thing I watch regularly is History Channel, some Discovery Channel (especially the wonderful Mythbusters), Fox News Channel, ESPN, and ESPN2.

35 posted on 11/19/2006 9:16:33 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: LouAvul

There are some good things on cable. You've missed a lot ... I wouldn't necessarily consider that admirable.


36 posted on 11/19/2006 9:17:39 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: Snickering Hound

Most TV programming is targeted for people under 40 IQ.


37 posted on 11/19/2006 9:17:46 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: Rastus

I enjoy most of those as well! Heroes is my current favorite...can't wait to see what happens at Homecoming tomorrow night!! :) ("Save the Cheerleader. Save the World.") Veronica Mars is one of the best-written shows; Lost is having a weak season, IMHO; never miss Smallville or Supernatural.


38 posted on 11/19/2006 9:18:39 PM PST by TheBigB (Do you think "Lady in the Water" is in Ted Kennedy's NetFlix queue?)
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To: LouAvul
Haven't had tv since 1998. Wasteland for idiots.

I'd agree,e xcept for History and Disclovery chanel. And the Military channel. And Survivor, CSI, House, Amazing race, SPEED Channel, NASCAR (although I have to go get a tivo to skip the commercials).

It's not all crap, but requires some research to get the truly good stuff.

39 posted on 11/19/2006 9:20:23 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Rastus

I am 49 and I HATE TV! I cannot bear the sound of it running endlessly in the background!
The 2 that we own are on for maybe 1 hour and 30 minutes per day, between child and hubby.
They mostly watch sports.
There are no TV's in our bedrooms or on the top floor where the bedrooms are.
We pay for the minimum channel exposure and I have blocked most everything that has no intellectual value.
I used to love Brit and got my dish post 9/11 because I could only watch non Fox news- it's the People's Republic afterall! Post election.. I shut the damned thing off all together and I am thinking of selling the 27" in the den.
Any buyers? It's only 8-9 years old!


40 posted on 11/19/2006 9:21:13 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Terpfen

Another House fan - yeah!

I loved his comment earlier in the season that the hospital administrator should call Jack Bauer.

My two favorite TV guys.


41 posted on 11/19/2006 9:23:48 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
who grew up with 3 networks

Three? We were lucky to get one snowy channel.

42 posted on 11/19/2006 9:24:22 PM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn?t really talk ? he was hitting on my wife)
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To: Snickering Hound
No good shows? Why, I caught the excellent The Monster that Challenged the World two times on cable last week.

43 posted on 11/19/2006 9:24:39 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: Snickering Hound
Ya know what pap is? The crushed up bananas, mashed potatoes whatever that you feed infants or old people? Nothing to it really.

That's what tv is and movies as well. Empty-headed pap. No substance and no redeeming qualities AT ALL!

There's no originality in hollywood anymore. If you watch real close, everything's a remake. Did the world REALLY yet ANOTHER remake of King Kong, Lone Ranger, Zorro, Three Musketeers, Count of Monte Cristo, Mission Impossible and on and on and on and on ad infinitum, ad nauseum????

No originality at all in TV Or movies.

Except reality shows. The studios LOVELOVELOVE reality shows. Cost them a small fraction of what genuine content programming costs them. That's why there's such a heavy focus in the news telling us over and over how we love reality tv. Survivor has to be THE stupidest thing that I've ever dreamed in my worst nightmares could be put on tv. Absolutely, horrendously stupid.

The only reason that I own a tv is that it powers my vcr where I have taped over a thousand movies that I can watch. Without that, I'd ditch the tv as not worth the investment. My wife and I earn over 100k per year and we don't watch tv therefore we don't put ourselves into a position of watching advertisers or buying their products. Let these tv "execs" think about that.

Empty-headed pap and lefty claptrap. that's all you find on tv or movies nowadays.

Godspeed

44 posted on 11/19/2006 9:24:43 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Democrat Party: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: Rastus

Prison Break
Heroes
Veronica Mars
Friday Night Lights
Lost
Smallville
Supernatural
Ghost Whisperer

I agree with several of your picks. I think Prison Break is the most consistently suspenseful show on the air at the moment. Lost remains frustratingly intriguing. Smallville and Heroes are entertaining.

I'd add:

House - imagine Groucho's Dr. Hackenbush, only not in a comedy

24 - gotta love a show where you can go cold turkey off of heroin within a couple of hours, and get from the Valley to LAX in less time than it takes to book a shuttle.

Doctor Who - the new series boasts impressive special effects and good writing, though it's often tough to keep on top of the dialogue, as the dialects are sometimes very heavy.

Jericho - sort of Lost in the midwest

Daybreak - can't imagine how they'll sustain the premise over the long haul, but off to a promising start

Medium - clever and innovative offering from Glenn Gordon Caron (Moonlighting), just returned. Unfortunately, for some reason, when I went to play the season opener from NBC's HD feed, my DVR had only received the surround audio and none of the main dialogue channel.

Eureka - on hiatus from the Sci-Fi Channel, due back in January, I think. Cleverly written and humorous, with some interesting story arcs.

Psych - also on hiatus (USA Network)until January. Imagine Ferris Bueller as a detective. Often laugh-out-loud funny, with the catchiest theme song in years.

Vanished - moderately interesting, but more than once the show has lived up to its title, and I've missed an episode because of some scheduling shenanigans by the network.


45 posted on 11/19/2006 9:25:23 PM PST by william clark
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To: TheBigB
Heroes is my current favorite...can't wait to see what happens at Homecoming tomorrow night!! :) ("Save the Cheerleader. Save the World.")

LOL! I just noticed that show on my tivo and asked hubby what the heck it is. We ended up watching the last two episodes. It is the oddest show...but I think I might be hooked.

46 posted on 11/19/2006 9:26:20 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna

I got sucked in from episode one.:)


48 posted on 11/19/2006 9:27:52 PM PST by TheBigB (Do you think "Lady in the Water" is in Ted Kennedy's NetFlix queue?)
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To: william clark

One of my twin daughters is a Medium fan. I watched a couple of times to please her. I thought it was exceedingly boring.


49 posted on 11/19/2006 9:28:57 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Dianna

What's it about?


50 posted on 11/19/2006 9:29:33 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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