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Glitch hits Bush's Air Force One
DNAWorld (India) ^ | Monday, November 20, 2006 09:13 IST | Staff

Posted on 11/19/2006 10:58:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

HO CHI MINH CITY: The aircraft carrying United States President George W Bush on a tour of Asia suffered a tyre problem during a stopover in the southern Vietnamese city of Ho Chi Minh City, officials said on Monday.

They said the problem that emerged after he landed Sunday in the city had been fixed and would not affect plans to travel later on Monday to Indonesia.

"We are back to normal," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said.

"There was a problem with a tyre, they were able to find a replacement, and they repaired it."

Bush always flies with two planes, and officials had made plans to transfer him from Air Force One -- a blue and white liveried Boeing 747 known across the world through television and Hollywood films -- to a smaller aircraft for the journey to Indonesia.

The president flew to Ho Chi Minh City after a weekend Asia-Pacific summit in the Vietnamese capital Hanoi. He was due Monday to visit the stock exchange here to highlight the country's growing economic clout.

Bush was scheduled to hold talks in Indonesia with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono before returning to the United States.



TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: airforceone

1 posted on 11/19/2006 10:58:25 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

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2 posted on 11/19/2006 10:59:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Bump


3 posted on 11/19/2006 11:06:47 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: BunnySlippers

disinfo? confusion?


4 posted on 11/19/2006 11:08:30 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Damn tyres!

Regards.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 11:27:05 PM PST by ARE SOLE
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To: Paleo Conservative

Don't we have any countermeasures to these Glitches that might be about to hit the plane? ;-)


6 posted on 11/19/2006 11:27:27 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This is why I only use tires. Good American tires.

None of those frou-frou "tyres" for me.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 11:31:05 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: Paleo Conservative
A blown tire? Not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, and fairly easily fixed.

Bush always flies with two planes, and officials had made plans to transfer him from Air Force One -- a blue and white liveried Boeing 747 known across the world through television and Hollywood films -- to a smaller aircraft for the journey to Indonesia.

That's technically inaccurate. ANY U.S. Air Force plane that the President flies on is called Air Force One - from the largest 747 to an F-16 fighter jet.
8 posted on 11/19/2006 11:53:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

They also use a C-5-A to haul all of the motorcade around in.


9 posted on 11/20/2006 12:44:53 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Bush on a tour of Asia suffered a tyre problem

Let's invade them too.


10 posted on 11/20/2006 3:23:04 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: conservative in nyc

Yup - flew Dan Quayle once, and I became Air Force 2.


11 posted on 11/20/2006 3:24:16 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: conservative in nyc

When he landed on the Abraham Lincoln, the pilot of the Viking got to squawk as Navy One. How cool is that?


12 posted on 11/20/2006 3:27:53 AM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. We don't want to marry Rebound Guy. Let's date around a bit before 2008.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
They also use a C-5-A to haul all of the motorcade around in.

Remember when Clinton took his "world junket" to China?

President Clinton's 10-day trip to China in 1998 provides a case in point. Accompanying the president were his wife and daughter, 5 Cabinet secretaries, 6 members of Congress, 86 senior aides, 150 civilian staff (doctors, lawyers, secretaries, valets, hairdressers, and so on), 150 military staff (drivers, baggage handlers, snipers, and so on), 150 security personnel, several bomb-sniffing dogs, and many tons of equipment, including 10 armored limousines and the "blue goose," Clinton's bulletproof lectern. The cost of the expedition was almost $19 million dollars according to the U.S. General Accounting Office.5 This figure represents what is called "incremental costs," that is costs in addition to the salaries of the federal employees who accompanied the president and the costs of planning the trip. The reported costs also did not include the expense of protecting the president, a figure that is classified for national security reasons.

The bulk of costs accrue to the Defense Department (DOD), which some critics charge is an unwise way to spend the country's defense dollars. To get the presidential entourage and its vast array of equipment to China and back, the Air Force few 36 airlift missions using Boeing 747, C-141, and C-5 (the largest transport, with a capacity of 145 tons of cargo) aircraft. The cost to DOD of the China trip was $14 million. Indeed, operating Air Force One alone costs over $34,000 an hour.

China was neither the least nor the most expensive presidential trip per day (that was probably the $42.8 million, 1,300 person, 10-day trip to Africa in March 1998). But if China can be used as an average, the cost of $1.8 million per day for a presidential trip overseas means that the incremental costs of President Clinton's foreign travel during his eight years in office came to more than $500 million.

13 posted on 11/20/2006 3:35:13 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Actually a C-5B is the airplane of choice for missions overseas. The difference lies in countermeasures for heat-seeking missiles.
14 posted on 11/20/2006 5:16:46 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: conservative in nyc
ANY U.S. Air Force plane that the President flies on is called Air Force One

True, but do you know the story behind why that is? Just a little Monday morning trivia.....

15 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:43 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Tennessee - The last Conservative rock sticking above a deep blue sea....)
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To: JRios1968

I was wondering how it was decked out for armament. Of course great minds...


16 posted on 11/20/2006 5:39:30 AM PST by phantomworker (If you travel far enough, one day you will recognize yourself coming down the road to meet yourself.)
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To: Thermalseeker

So what's the story behind it? And did you ever find your perfect $100 hamburger?


17 posted on 11/20/2006 5:42:34 AM PST by phantomworker (If you travel far enough, one day you will recognize yourself coming down the road to meet yourself.)
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To: Thermalseeker

ANY U.S. Air Force plane that the President flies on is called Air Force One
True, but do you know the story behind why that is? Just a little Monday morning trivia.....


The Presidential call sign was established for security purposes during the Eisenhower administration. The change stemmed from a 1953 incident where an Eastern Airlines commercial flight (8610) had the same call sign as a flight the President was on (Air Force 8610). The planes accidentally entered the same airspace, and after the incident the unique call sign "Air Force One" was introduced for the Presidential aircraft.


18 posted on 11/20/2006 5:47:10 AM PST by jgilbert63
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To: Howlin

Good reminder!! People conveniently tend to forget all these expensive trips, paid for at the taxpayers' expense, by Clinton.


19 posted on 11/20/2006 6:12:04 AM PST by Humal
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To: Paleo Conservative
"The aircraft carrying United States President George W Bush on a tour of Asia suffered a tyre problem..."

On Fox and Friends they said "six tires", but I wasn't paying close enough attention to know if they were joking or serious. One tire is understandable; six tires are --- well --- something else entirely. Does anyone know if it was 1 or 6?
20 posted on 11/20/2006 6:14:38 AM PST by Humal
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To: phantomworker

Yup yup yup!


21 posted on 11/20/2006 6:23:58 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: phantomworker
So what's the story behind it?

See post #18.

And did you ever find your perfect $100 hamburger?

No, not yet, but we've been having a lot of fun trying. We did find some unexpectedly good BBQ just off the Rome, GA, airport, though.

22 posted on 11/20/2006 6:30:46 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Tennessee - The last Conservative rock sticking above a deep blue sea....)
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To: Howlin

Included in that list of civilians on Clinton's planes to China was Hillary's MOTHER as I recall.


23 posted on 11/20/2006 6:52:29 AM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: Humal

The C-5 was used to haul Hillary's fat ....

Can you imagine the code names the Secret Service (trained monkeys to Hillary & Chelsea) probably has for her?


24 posted on 11/20/2006 12:34:22 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: JRios1968
I didn't know that, I thought they would just pull a C-5-A out of inventory and use it, but, I guess this C-5-A that is used for the president has to be specially equipped.
25 posted on 11/20/2006 8:06:47 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Howlin
All I can say is, just incredible.... and many average people in this country are just trying to survive day to day on their paycheck.
Let me guess, " Do as I say, and not do as I do " in a libs mind, let the average lemmings pay for our agendas and deeds.
26 posted on 11/20/2006 8:11:41 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"~~~~~they were able to find a replacement, and they repaired it"

Replacement or a new tire? Do they know where the replacement came from? And if repaired -- who repaired it?

In those pictures of Pres. Bush in the national dress --- did it look as tho he had a special vest underneath it? He looked kinda bulky.

27 posted on 11/20/2006 8:13:40 PM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The A-model C-5s were built in the late 1960's and early 1970's, and at the time, they were not expected to be flying into "hot" zones. During the 1980's, the production line was re-opened with the much stronger, better capable C-5B model. The major difference between the models is the countermeasures against infrared missiles. For that reason, the President's stuff rides in C-5Bs when it goes anywhere, and only C-5Bs are allowed to go into the Southwest Asia theater of operations.

When I was deployed to Spain last year, the only times we saw C-5As were on flights headed into Ramstein Air Base in Germany, or into Incirlik Air Base, Turkey. The C-5Bs we saw were usually on the return leg from Kuwait or Iraq back to the U.S.


28 posted on 11/20/2006 8:27:55 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: phantomworker

Of course, great minds won't discuss the security measures for AF-1.


29 posted on 11/20/2006 8:35:20 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: JRios1968
I guess by now they have resolved the problem they were having with the early C-5s with the wings getting cracks in them..... yup, the C-5s ( A or B ) are hefty beasts.
30 posted on 11/20/2006 8:47:41 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The A models were refurbished sometime in the late 70's to early 80's, giving them tons of service life in the wing boxes. The solution was then engineered into the B models when they were bought in the 80's.


31 posted on 11/20/2006 10:04:09 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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