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Human Rights Watch says Saddam was not given fair trial
The International Herald Tribune ^ | November 20, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/20/2006 5:02:23 AM PST by Zakeet

NEW YORK: Human Rights Watch said Monday that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was not given a fair trial, claiming in a report that attorneys and judges undermined the legitimacy of the process by staging repeated walkouts and failing to uphold standards of international law.

In a 97-page report, the group called the soundness of the guilty verdict "questionable" and said the Iraqi High Tribunal was not equipped to handle such a complex case. The document was based on observation of the trial and interviews with court officials, lawyers and other key parties, the group said.

The New York-based rights group said it found "serious procedural flaws," citing shortcomings in the timely disclosure of incriminating evidence. It also said that the defendants were not allowed to properly confront witnesses, and that the judges at times did not maintain an impartial demeanor.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanrightswatch; justice; saddam; trial

1 posted on 11/20/2006 5:02:26 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Hussein, who once said, "The law is two lines above my signature," was fortunate to have a trial at all.


2 posted on 11/20/2006 5:05:35 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: Zakeet
Leftists are saying Saddam didn't get a fair trial? Hoohah Boy! I have to ask where were they when Saddam sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths WITHOUT due process of law? Something Human Rights Watch might have taken care to note in its report on the High Tribunal's proceedings and the subsequent verdict. He at least had his day in court and was represented by counsel. Under Iraqi law, the appeal of his sentence to the nation's highest court is automatic. And for what its worth, where is HRW's compassion for Saddam's victims? Don't their HUMAN RIGHTS count?? Go figure.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/20/2006 5:06:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
Saddam is an enemy of America.

Ergo Saddam is innocent.

The trial is a result of American action.

Ergo: the trial was of the large marsupial variety.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

4 posted on 11/20/2006 5:06:48 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Zakeet

LLS says human excrement watch is FOS!

LLS


5 posted on 11/20/2006 5:07:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Zakeet

Saddam's idea of a trial: You'll have a fair trial, and then you'll be hanged!

Now it's happening to him. Hah!


6 posted on 11/20/2006 5:07:56 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Zakeet

I have no idea why Human Rights Watch made an announcement in this country about a trial of an Iraqi that took place in Iraq. If there is a problem, go to Iraq and raise the issue.


7 posted on 11/20/2006 5:07:58 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: arthurus
I'm sure the Left would have a different take if the guy sitting in the dock was named George Walker Bush.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

8 posted on 11/20/2006 5:08:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
Human Rights Watch says Saddam was not given fair trial

In order to make up for the unfair trial, I think Saddam's suffering should be lessened by making sure he gets a speedy execution.

9 posted on 11/20/2006 5:11:57 AM PST by twhitak
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To: Zakeet

Human Rights Watch had nothing to say about human rights in Iraq while Saddam slaughtered tens of thousands.

The Iraqi government should box up a "wood chipper" video and mail it to HRW in New York.


10 posted on 11/20/2006 5:12:11 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: Zakeet

I wonder what the Human Rights Watch group thinks of the trial(s) Saddam's victims never got?


11 posted on 11/20/2006 5:12:53 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: Zakeet

Yeah... He was convicted, therefore the trial was biased! /sarc


12 posted on 11/20/2006 5:13:31 AM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: twhitak
Iraq law says he'll be executed within 30 days of the conclusion of appeals. I think we should adopt the standard. Its ridiculous when it takes a quarter century to put a murderer to death in America.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 11/20/2006 5:14:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet

Hang them, right beside him..


14 posted on 11/20/2006 5:15:17 AM PST by crz
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To: goldstategop
And for what its worth, where is HRW's compassion for Saddam's victims? Don't their HUMAN RIGHTS count??

Once your dead, your no longer considered a human.

15 posted on 11/20/2006 5:16:51 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Zakeet

My father often quoted a line from some old western: "Let's give him a fair trial before we hang him."


16 posted on 11/20/2006 5:18:48 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Zakeet

What did these morons say about the fairness of the Milosevic trial? Talk about an unfair trial! I would shut them down until they come up with a responsible, peer reviewed assessment of the "fairness" of the corrupt and incompetent proceedings that did in Milosevic. Until then they are wasting our time and somebody's money.


17 posted on 11/20/2006 5:18:56 AM PST by olezip
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To: Zakeet

They cannot expect world opinion to take this critique seriously.


18 posted on 11/20/2006 5:19:02 AM PST by Rapscallion (Abortion, education, and energy are not federal responsibilities.)
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To: Rapscallion
Its good for bird cage liner. I don't give brain-dead idiots like them the time of day.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
Huh....how 'bout that....my giveashitometer says "0".
20 posted on 11/20/2006 5:21:41 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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To: HoosierHawk
Hussein, who once said, "The law is two lines above my signature," was fortunate to have a trial at all.

Exactly... Wasn't it Romania's dictator, Nicolae Ceausescu, who was executed just a day or so after his trial, once he had been overthrown?

Mark

21 posted on 11/20/2006 5:25:28 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Zakeet

This New York bunch of communists will do anything and everything to destroy Iraq's effort to become an independent Democracy. To not give a murderous SOB every chance to survive and get back into society is beyond the twisted minds of the left. To hell with these self appointed haters of freedom and America, their actions are pure treason and they have no group opposing their venomous aims. When will the conservatives stand up and attack these monkey minds and destroy their ability to damage America. Enough is enough!


22 posted on 11/20/2006 5:26:30 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent!)
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To: NCLaw441

They are trying to fire a shot across the bow concerning Saddam's impending execution.


23 posted on 11/20/2006 5:36:11 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Save the Republic! Mess with the polling firms' heads!)
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To: Zakeet

Who cares what they say. Sadam will swing regardless.


24 posted on 11/20/2006 5:38:23 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: Zakeet

Good now hang him.


25 posted on 11/20/2006 5:49:12 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: RexBeach

Reminds me of a judge who wants told me: "OK, you make your arguments, then I'll sentence your client." That certainly gave me confidence in the hearing I would get for the man in his homicide case.


26 posted on 11/20/2006 5:53:29 AM PST by mak5
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To: Zakeet

Human Rights Watch would have had problems with somebody prosecuting Hitler.


27 posted on 11/20/2006 6:10:30 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Zakeet

The Left will only protest to the people they know that will not physically harm them. That is why you never see these people marching in somalia, sudan, north korea, because " Hell those people might kill us". nah we would rather throw pebbles at the lion behind the cage because we know he cant hurt us. These people are a joke.


28 posted on 11/20/2006 6:12:21 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Zakeet

"In a 97-page report..."

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Took HRW 97 pages to come up with such idiocy? The enviro-whackos should be all over them for wasting trees on this garbage.


29 posted on 11/20/2006 6:17:44 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: olezip

You are correct. The trial of Milosovic was a joke. IMO they killed him in order to stop the trial they couldnt win.

Now what human Rights is up to is trying to take that self same court that screwed over Milosovic and make it the International court to try people like Hussein.

If they want to do something why dont they insist that Mugabe be tried in this ionternational court.
What is funny is that Human Rights Watch wants to be the judges ,but they havent the courage to be the policemen.
They want someone else to round up these criminals so they can judge them.


30 posted on 11/20/2006 6:33:06 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Zakeet

I don't care. Iraqi's tried him. They convicted him. Let them kill him. The world will be better off with one less cockroache in it.


31 posted on 11/20/2006 6:37:58 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Zakeet

Maybe they will more impressed with the swiftness of his hanging.


32 posted on 11/20/2006 6:39:50 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: goldstategop

Do tell...


33 posted on 11/20/2006 6:43:42 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Zakeet

I don't think the defendant's lawyer should be given a veto over the fairness of the trial by staging walkouts. What a stupid concept.


34 posted on 11/20/2006 6:59:12 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: goldstategop

I have heart rendering photographs of Saddam's mass graves that I would like to send to this ignorant group. JessM


35 posted on 11/20/2006 7:56:19 AM PST by jesseam
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To: mdmathis6

Thanks, I figured that. I just don't see the relevance of it as far as US news is concerned. The US doesn't run the Iraqi courts, and therefore can't be accused of any impropriety in the trial. Of course, the Iraqis won't listen to Human Rights Watch, so they try for an audience who might care, even if there is nothing for us to do. Typical liberalism.


36 posted on 11/20/2006 8:29:25 AM PST by NCLaw441
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