Skip to comments.The Real Reason Rangel Is Proposing A Draft [To Help The Hate America Left Led Protests]
Posted on 11/20/2006 6:45:10 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
The Hate America Marxist Left leading the "anti-war movement" realizes that the reason they can not get the large marches seen in the 60s is due to the lack of a draft. As soon as the draft was no longer a threat, the large marches of the 60s stoppped. Charlie Rangel works with those leaders. Two and a half years ago, Charlie Rangel helped the MFSO and Code Pink Death March protest from Dover AFB to Walter Reed Army Hospital to the White House. Charlie spoke outside the gates of Dover AFB. A march that saw no American flags outside Walter Reed Army Hospital, while supposedly patriotic military families placed black funeral wreaths on the fences and in front of the Walter Reed sign. Early 2005, the anti-war movement realized it was not resonating with the general public and held a meeting to define strategy (see The nation March 2005, "The New face of protest"). A draft is the "Holy Grail" that the Hate America Marxist Left sees as the key to having the movement "rise up" instead of "dry up" as it did with their desperate attempt at revival on Veterans Day in Philadelphia.
Charlie Rangel works with those leaders.
Two and a half years ago, Charlie Rangel helped the MFSO and Code Pink Death March protest from Dover AFB to Walter Reed Army Hospital to the White House. Charlie spoke outside the gates of Dover AFB. A march that saw no American flags outside Walter Reed Army Hospital, while supposedly patriotic military families placed black funeral wreaths on the fences and in front of the Walter Reed sign.
Early 2005, the anti-war movement realized it was not resonating with the general public and held a meeting to define strategy (see The nation March 2005, "The New face of protest").
A draft is the "Holy Grail" that the Hate America Marxist Left sees as the key to having the movement "rise up" instead of "dry up" as it did with their desperate attempt at revival on Veterans Day in Philadelphia.
The Nation, March 2005, "The New Face of Protest"
This could really backfire on the Left. Keep it up Charlie, I don't think this is gonna play well in Harlem.
When is America going to wake up to the people who are trying to destroy America?
Rangel epitomizes too dumb to know how dumb he looks. I would guess most people see him as just another used up old fart with nothing else to do but sit in congress until he dies.
There was universal scorn for his suggestion.
He will not vote for this if it ever came to a vote.....again.
Democrat Plan Summarized in One Word: Draft
by Scott Ott
(2006-11-20) Rep. Charles Rangel, D-NY, yesterday unveiled the Democrat plan for boosting the minimum wage, providing free healthcare to millions more Americans, increasing college attendance, reducing greenhouse gas emissions and preventing future U.S. wars of aggression.
Our plan is so simple and elegant that it can be stated in one word draft, said Rep. Rangel. By implementing a military draft, well provide a living wage and free healthcare to our new involuntary soldiers and their families, plus well give them college money after their term of service.
The New York Democrat, who has proposed a draft several times before, said taking many of the 18-to-26 year-olds off the nations highways will decrease the number of automobile fatalities and drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
The most crucial element of the Draft America Plan, he said, is creation of a huge military force comprised of less-motivated troops in case the president must decide whether to go to war with North Korea or Iran, or to expand the global war on terror in other lands.
Right now, its the skill and passion of our all-volunteer force that gives George Bush the arrogance to challenge our enemies on their soil, Rep. Rangel said. With a military full of reluctant conscripts, Bush wont be so cocky. Well be safer because, as we all know, when American troops stay home fewer terrorists are created.
I read elsewhere that Rangels proposal will include "alternative service" provisions with the same educational etc benefits as military service........this is only a disguised gift to democrat voters-to-be.............somewhere else there will be created numerous groups of little lefty gestapo groups to further the lefty agenda dressed up as "alternative service"
personally, I think Rangel is badly miscalculating this. I know he is doing this purely for politics with no intention of this really becoming law.
1. Contrary to his claims that it would make the use of military force less likely, it would have the effect of making a the use of force more likely without concern of being over stretched.
2. A large segment of the US population would be in fvaor of mandatory military service for all young adults, not just male.
If memory serves, Rangel voted against his own draft bill on '04
Mr. Rangel is a high-operating idiot. No, that gives a bad name to all idiots.
OK, how about this: He's a putz.
He's a putz and a schmuck. Do you think he will actually vote for it this time around?
I agree. This has never been anything but a political football to him to get the protests started up.
He did. It is sad when you vote against your own bill to distance yourself from the stupidity of the author of the bill.
If we had a draft without the loopholes of the last one, it wouldn't just be the children of the Left protesting.
No idea, Pete. Mr. Rangel is not one of the trustworthy types. He may be raising this question just to step into the political limelight.
One thing I do know, however: Military commanders do not want troops in their outfits who do not want to be there.
I think what he's really hoping is that he can stir up fear. Also, he's hoping that Bush will take the bait and start clamoring for a draft. That's his fondest fantasy.
I had not thought of that. As Democrats (e.g., Palm Beach County's Democrat DA) do not distinguish between the using the powers of their elected office for the duties of the office versus the welfare of the party, you're right. Be very afraid.
In my opinion, this is part of self agrandizing bid to keep his constituents on the plantation. Historically, military service was the best way for blacks to get ahead. It was the first integrated institution and a powerful agent for understanding. However, stats show that this talk about equity has caused blacks not to join. They lose and the overseers like Rangel cling to power in their apartheid world euphemistically called the black community.
I feel the draft would be a good thing for one reason only. It just might instill some respect, honor personal responsibilty into an already spoiled generation.
Harlem will vote for the democrat period.
It is all about skin color for democrats. Democrats would pass the draft and then blam the "white man".
There, obviously, are not going to be enough votes in the House or the Senate to move this onto to the President's desk where everyone knows it would receive a swift veto. This is only being pursued in an attempt to stir up accrimonious debate that might serve as a catalystic boost to the wacko anti-war pro-radical-islam (and therefore pro-war against us) left. Wrangel is a sorry excuse of an American and has never said an intelligent thing in his entire political life.
Charlie Rangel = The south-bound end of a north-bound horse.
If Republicans play this right (yeah, I know, first time for everything) they could kill the Democrats in 2008 wiith this. Suburban moms DO NOT want a draft. They have been moving towards the Democrats in droves and this is what is killing the GOP in recent elections. Republicans can get them back if we can convince them that Democrats want to draft their sons.
Exactly. Charlie just wants a vehicle for his class and race warfare.
The people who know say the volunteer military is working out better. The vast majority of people in Congress care about the quality of the military. They will heed the experience of our military experts, not the rhetoric of people like Rangel.
a. it will never even come to a vote
b. it is just more political posturing
c. even if a & b were dead wrong, it would be vetoed
The notion that Democrats support a draft is laughable. If a draft were instituted, they would be the first ones protesting. Many Democrats are anti-military and anti-service.
You're absolutely right. But I think you can expect the Dems to reign in Charlie. His tactic is such a bomb. If they don't, they will pay dearly.
Rangel is a black man who is advocating a form of slavery for a certain age group of men.
100% correct, Doctor.
That's not going to happen. Even with Rummy gone, no one in his top-level military advisors wants a draft.
The draft has never worked really well in meeting the manpower needs of this nation. But it looks like somebody is "doing something".
If patriotism is not enough appeal for young men to rush to the defense of their country, then perhaps the country does not DESERVE to be defended.
There are those who are working very hard to make this nation look like just the kind of country nobody would want to defend. The "blame America first" crowd has been working on that aspect for some time now. After all, as they claim, America is just a cesspool of racism, a swarming mass of hedonists that have only their own satiation as their objective, raping the resources of the world, paying no heed to the future of coming generations, and grossly wasteful and extravagant in all facets of life.
And they have opened a second front on this degradation of the US by not enforcing the control of entry into this country, and effective control of foreign elements that are already here.
Then, when anyone tries to take effective steps to stem this erosion of will and resources, great derision is heaped upon the reformer, and the howling of the masses is taken to an even more extreme level. After a certain point, the conscientious citizens just go home and go into bunker mode. Not because they want to, but they are simply outnumbered. They will return when the storm has abated, and the fools have been destroyed in an orgy of mutual mayhem.
Rome failed because they had lost the sense of being the pre-eminent power in the world. The United States is in very nearly the same situation today.
...ongoing, never to be attained...
wakeup to the people and the party is what you mean...
2008 will determine where the country goes..forward
or in a sewer...morality of the young and their future
is, and will be, in disarray as the constant drip, drip
of liberalism is made more and more apparent..Jake
"It's a fitting symbol of what Democrat rule in Congress will be the next two years: A worthless, cynical expenditure of time and energy that accomplishes absolutely nothing." A quote from Michelle Malkin's blog today. Well said.
Yes he did...
Yes. Last court decision said "no" becuase women were not allowed in most Military Occupation Specialties (MOS) (a/k/a job title), so essentially the Army would have no place to use women. They failed to meet a need.
Now that the feminazis have successfully fought for opening 80% of MOS specialities to women, they can be inserted into 90% of the available positions (a/k/a job openings).
Private Benjamin will go to war this time.