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To: brain bleeds red; M. Espinola; G8 Diplomat; JasonC; Tailgunner Joe; MarMema

Right, Putin's awesome, Russia's great, they've got some sweet human rights there. Litvinenko was randomly poisoned by somebody, Anna Politkovskaya was shot on accident, and the other 14 journalists must have died from "natural causes".==

You just falling to another extreme. Once you blaim Putin as the murderer of Politkovskaya and the poisoneer of Litvinenko but next just out of your sarcasm you tell that the murder or poisoning didn't happen. It is just the polimic trick.
You just create the implication that if those crimes happened then it was Putin the perpetrator or another choice the crime didn't happen. It is smart trick but not that smart. You are far form mastership of those soviet propagandists of Soviet reign. I in turn was fed by thier production for years (I lived in USSR) so for me it is very easy to recognise the propagandistic fraud and lugh oon it:)).
To conclude I choose the third choice of your dilemma: those crime did happen but it wasn't Putin the perpetrator but the third side who wanted to frame him and undermine him. How about that version?:)
My prove of it is that Putin has no motives to do such crimes. Both Politkovskaya and Litvinenko was juts the neglegible values on the political spectre. Same as for thier master Berezovskii. Everyone knows that they eat form Berezovskii hand. They were his clients. So their credibility wasn't higher then the credibility of Berezovskii himself means something near zero.
But the use them as the scapegots could bring some dividends to him as the political provocation and frame.
But I honestly think that thier efforts are futile. They wasn't damage Putin approval rate whatever they do because Russians do not trust Berezobskii then his clients. But Putin approal rate with Russians is the most important thing isn't it true?


39 posted on 11/23/2006 2:04:06 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: RusIvan
" I in turn was fed by thier production for years (I lived in USSR) so for me it is very easy to recognise the propagandistic fraud and lugh oon it:))."

It's a shame your views are still hardcore Soviet and defend your Kremlin boss no matter the bleeding obvious.

"My prove of it is that Putin has no motives to do such crimes."

The other voice from Radio Moscow has spoken again. Yes comrade, of course Putin is a saint and would never hurt a fly, never mind those which expose his ruthless agenda.

Please inform all the dimwitted peasants on FR the Russian line on how Syria's Assad clan (another 'former' Soviet client state, Putin supplies with advanced weaponry) had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination of Pierre Gemayel.

42 posted on 11/23/2006 10:34:38 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: RusIvan
But Putin approal rate with Russians is the most important thing isn't it true?

Maybe to you, but not to us. You see, we are Americans, not Russians. So what is most important to us are our own opinions, not those of foreigners. What Russians approve of or disapprove of is not really what is most important to us.

43 posted on 11/23/2006 12:31:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RusIvan

You reasoning just doesn't make sense, you Commie plant. Are you saying Berezobski killed those other journalists as well simply to "frame" innocent Putin? Why wouldn't Putin just kill him then?

And what could be gained from "framing" Putin anyways? He's consolidated almost all of the power, he's nationalized the energy industry, to even attempt the assertion that Putin's power hangs in the balance as opposed to resting in an iron grip is ludicrous, not to mention naive and shameful, regardless of how much (former)Russian propaganda you've swallowed.


44 posted on 11/23/2006 2:44:13 PM PST by brain bleeds red
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