Skip to comments.The beginning of the end of Western civilization
Posted on 11/24/2006 2:26:49 PM PST by AnalogReigns
Western civilization life as we know it is under attack, and indeed has even reached a very dangerous point. Some may even think it is a point of no return.
Not just because in recent months Muslim groups around the world insisted that the pope apologize for merely quoting someone else. No, not just because the prime minister of Denmark had to grovel to the Muslim nations for a cartoon that appeared in a Danish newspaper, over which he had no control whatsoever. No, not even just because President Bush rushed into a Muslim mosque in Washington, D.C., after Sept. 11, 2001, declaring that Islam is a religion of peace.
These are merely modern-day indications that Islam's 1,400-year-old method of attempting to reign and rule by intimidation and fear are reaching new heights. Throughout their history, the followers of Islam have attempted to practice the very core of their religious worldview namely, to see to it that their religion, which they view as superior to all other religions, overwhelms the followers of all other religions.
In days gone by when they had no political or military (terrorist) voice, they were biding their time. But now, as is confirmed daily in our newscasts, we know that they command numerous foot soldiers and cells in Europe and North America. Surely, they feel that their day has come. The day of successfully intimidating and gaining more concessions, and thus more ground toward realizing their 1,400-year-old dream of world domination, is within their reach.
How can we know this? After extensive time examining self-confessed radical or revolutionary Islamic groups, I've discovered a root of resentment deeper than that of mere opposition to colonialism.
To most of these people, the Crusades were not just events in history that took place nearly eight or nine hundred years ago; instead, the Crusades signify a perpetual desire on the part of the Christian West to dominate them and prove their religion inferior. Thus, it is essential to explore even beyond the Crusades to comprehend fully the undercurrents of today's Islamic resurgence. Current Islamic thought as expressed in al-Jihad is a stream flowing out of a peculiar interpretation of Islam.
Even a casual observer must be asking, "Why do they 'violently and murderously' object to others pointing out the violent nature of the founding of their religion?"
Well, this is just the point. When you deem your religion to be superior, you can torture, maim and kill your enemy, whom you view as inferior, without a need for explanation. On the other hand, those who are viewed as inferior by them dare not even be associated with the slightest bit of criticism of them.
Alas, the beginning of the end of Western civilization as we know it did not begin with modern-day examples of bullying into submission those whom I mentioned above. But rather, if you ask any of the reliable leaders in the Middle East, as I have, they will tell you it began during the Carter administration.
When Muslims held Americans hostage in Tehran, Iran, for nearly a year and a half, and the most powerful nation in the world (the "Great Satan") acted impotently, there were a million hurrahs rising from Morocco to Indonesia. As they say in the Middle East, "The cow is down and what is needed are more butchers with sharp knives."
There is no escape from this historical disaster. Reagan and George W. tried to reset the clock, but sadly it appears too late. I am no politician and I do have a genuine love for the Muslim people, but the facts are stubborn and will not go away.
Short of unity among the Western leaders to speak the truth with moral clarity a miracle that even those of us who believe in miracles doubt greatly there can be no future for Western civilization as we know it.
There is one dim hope, however. Our only hope it is that the moderate leaders of Arab nations can lead the charge against religious imperialism with courage and without fear. Only then will the Western leaders rise in unity from the graves of apathy and support these leaders in their endeavor in order to resuscitate Western civilization as we know it.
Nor do I. I do like the discourse however. Too bad we can't say the "Emporer is Buck Naked"...
If you really want to understand the fundamental driving forces behind all of this, I'd recommend reading "Cannibals and Kings: Origins of Cultures ", by Marvin Harris. Pay particular attention to what motivates the "Mumi".
Don't let my question leave you with an impression... I could give a rat's a** about the palestinians. I just needed ammo against the only thing I have heard regarding aggression against muslims. This is what they have stated was the aggression.
I now have another full magazine in which to do my verbal battles and I thank you...
I didn't see it for a while, LoL!
Muslims are very good at playing the victim as they slaughter.
We just seen what happens when an attempt is made to give back some of this annexed land. It simply becomes a better location to attack Irrael from.
Anthor thing you should read is the Hamas charter. They spell out what "Palestinian" goals really are.
Again, it seems westrn leaders have difficulty hearing what Muzzies aren't afraid to admit.
They even wrote it down in the Hamas Charter to make it clear. It just falls on blind politicians eyes.
Not only do they express their undying desire to kill every last Jew, but from there, they plan to take Spain and eventually the entire world, including the great Satan.
Yet we give them billions in foriegn aid.
The problem is the rapid moral decay of the West.
and an unwillingness to defend it's stated values and 1/2 a population who believe that negotiation is the answer to everything and that the U.N. is the answer and armed conflict will solve nothing. Only another catostophic event will wake us up in this country. I have my doubts that such an event in Europe would wake them up. They'd just blame U.S. policy and Israel as usual.
Al of these doomsdayers forget that the West has the nuclear option.
And it is so maddening to me that our gov't, and so many other gov'ts, are blind to this. The "peace process" is a sick, perverse game. The goal is to drive the Jews into the sea. Period. And we want to pretend like children playing make believe that it's not true.
This has been going on since I was a child, and I'm getting old.
If you really want to understand the fundamental driving forces behind all of this, I'd recommend reading "Cannibals and Kings: Origins of Cultures ", by Marvin Harris.
Having studied the Arab culture (I'm half Lebanese), lived with both Shia and Sunni, and observed their interaction with the environment at large as a Christian, I've got a pretty good idea what motivates them.
Thank you for the recommendation, maybe I'll check it out.
Welcome to FR.
Muslims were never innocent victims of anything in history. They were always murderous barbaric aggressors.
Back in the late 40s, early 50s... When the US/UN gave the Jews Israel. and the palestinians were herded out. Does this fit in the contrary to your statement?
Your premise, and your history, is incorrect. The "Palestinians" (miscellaneous Arabs, actually) were not "herded out" - they were asked to stay, and share the land with the Jews. However, they chose to believe the leaders of the neighboring Arab states who told them to leave, temporarily, while the combined Arab armies destroyed the Jews, after which they could return and have it all. No sharing. They chose to leave, and they chose poorly.
In contrast, the hundreds of thousands of Jews living in those neighboring Arab countries were forced to leave and their property confiscated.
Thank you for the welcome. Harris' book goes beyond any individual culture in that he uncovers common motivations and behaviors in many cultures over many centuries. It is one of the more lucid (and controversial ) treatises in the field of cultural anthropology. I think you would enjoy it.
Well, I'd say you deserve a "That'a Boy!" Thank you for pointing out my lack of historical facts... If you left the first sentence out, I'd appreciate your wisdom on the rest...
"Death cults come and go, but the Light of the Lord Shines Forever."
Michael = "who is like God"
Youssef -- variant of Joseph, I believe = "Jehovah has added."
Unfortunately, common sense has been exchanged for political correctness. so things are going to have to get a lot worse before they will get better. 9/11 should have done it, but it wasn't enough of an education. More is coming. I see a bad (crescent) moon risin'
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