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Cities Compete in Hipness Battle to Attract Young
NY Times ^ | Nov. 26, 2006 | SHAILA DEWAN

Posted on 11/24/2006 10:47:14 PM PST by seacapn

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To: Paleo Conservative; KayEyeDoubleDee
But which cities are attracting future parents, and which are attracting DINKS?

Excellent question.

Wonder if the statistics exist that could answer that question?

I suppose you could go to the Census Bureau to get an estimate of the number of women in the 20-40 age range [i.e. the child bearing years], then go to the CDC and/or the state boards of health to get the number of live births for the county which hosts the city [and the surrounding counties which host the associated suburbs, which probably have better hospitals], and then use the first number as the numerator and the second number as the denominator of a fraction that tried to represent the fecundity of the young women of the city [and its suburbs].

Would be some work, but it should be do-able.

41 posted on 11/25/2006 5:22:59 AM PST by BubbaHeel
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To: mirkwood
I was a foreman and tried to hire some of these guys to walk the power line. Crack is better. I did hire a gang so that when I ran through their neighborhood I would not get mugged. The Atlanta police were supposed to be with me by contract, but I guess they were chickenshit. The gang mom made me and my crew breakfast every morning. Never believe it when the cops break in and the mom says "duh". They know damn well what their sons are doing and they don't mind cleaning your wallet.

Dude, it sounds like you might have the material there for a novel or a movie script.

You ever tried your hand at writing pulp fiction?

42 posted on 11/25/2006 5:27:18 AM PST by BubbaHeel
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To: seacapn

This is a story about the pussies that survive only because there are people who fight and die to protect their sorry asses.


43 posted on 11/25/2006 5:35:21 AM PST by Modok
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To: seacapn

Let's see...If I was a recruiter for a big corporation where would I go looking for talent?

To a cool big city where I can find a 27 year old, with tatooes up to his armpits, a ring hanging from his tongue, who just got in at 6am after a headbanger's ball and lives with two dogs and parakeet in a rented former foundry.

Or might I go to exurbia to find a 27 year old who owns a home with mortgage, has two small children, attends church on Sunday and wears a suit and tie.


44 posted on 11/25/2006 5:36:27 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: sergeantdave

Let's see...If I was a recruiter for a big corporation where would I go looking for talent?






It would depend where your headquarters was located.


45 posted on 11/25/2006 5:38:33 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: seacapn

Bump. There are some GREAT posts in this thread.


46 posted on 11/25/2006 5:51:19 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: FreedomPoster
AFAICT, freaknik died some years ago. Admittedly, it was pretty out of control.

Are you still seeing it? Or do you live somewhere other than ATL, and imagine it's still happening yearly?

They must have moved it to Galveston.

47 posted on 11/25/2006 6:40:04 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: AlaskaErik
I, for one, can't understand why anyone would want to live in the city. I live in a small town in a neighborhood where the lots are at least an acre.

because some of us don't want to waste our weekends mowing one or even worse five acre lots of grass.

48 posted on 11/25/2006 7:46:27 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: seacapn
Between 1990 and 2000, the cities that gained the largest percentage of 25 to 35-year-olds were Las Vegas, Austin, Charlotte, Portland, and Atlanta, in that order.

Interesting information. Las Vegas should probably be left off this list as a "destination" city in the context of this discussion, though. I read an article recently about LV -- that some astonishing portion (like 50% or more) of the people who move to Las Vegas live there for less than six months.

49 posted on 11/25/2006 8:11:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

LV can be extraordinarily boring.


50 posted on 11/25/2006 8:14:07 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: seacapn

I can safely say I love sprawl for that reason. Work in the city, live in the outer suburbs.


51 posted on 11/25/2006 8:15:44 AM PST by RockinRight (There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.)
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To: seacapn

The city proper has virtually the same population it did 50 years ago, but the metro population has quadrupled.


52 posted on 11/25/2006 8:16:21 AM PST by RockinRight (There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.)
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To: EDINVA

I like the growing mid-sized cities better than the big ones or the small towns.


53 posted on 11/25/2006 8:17:59 AM PST by RockinRight (There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.)
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To: cowtowney

So is it safe to say that some people like big cities and some people like the small cities or suburbs?

I'm glad they still make chocolate and vanilla and stawberry...


54 posted on 11/25/2006 8:30:41 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: CzarNicky
because some of us don't want to waste our weekends mowing one or even worse five acre lots of grass.

That's why John Deere makes tractors. Takes a few minutes. Or you can hire someone to do it.

55 posted on 11/25/2006 8:59:19 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: AlaskaErik

I'll skip paying for a tractor and stay in the city. No yard to pay someone to take care of regardless of size.


56 posted on 11/25/2006 9:07:29 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: seacapn
Portland is so young and hip is has everything except children. What it does have is a huge public school system servicing only 2/3 as many kids as a generation ago, complete with dozens of unneeded schools, a expensive big-city school salary and benefits structure on an overlarge staff, greedy school executives, and a huge number of retired school teachers and administrators pulling down expensive pesions.

They have already cut the school week down to the shortest in the state. Portland has it's own "temporary" income tax 1-2% on top of the 8.5% State tax.

It may well be a death spiral forming. Worth keeping an eye on.

57 posted on 11/25/2006 10:37:29 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Republican Babe

How come multiple generations of adults living together was okay on the Waltons, but not next door?


58 posted on 11/25/2006 10:45:32 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Go Crawford Pirates!!!)
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To: AlaskaErik
I, for one, can't understand why anyone would want to live in the city.

Living in the city and living in the burbs are two different things. A good city neighborhood is like a small town, except that it's likely to be more walkable and has major urban assets a short hop away. The burbs, however .... I'll just say that I can't imagine spending three hours a day in my car.

59 posted on 11/25/2006 10:48:48 AM PST by sphinx
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To: AlaskaErik

I live in South San Jose, but when I was single I thought it would be fun to live in San Francisco. You could live there and walk to restaurants, night clubs, and shopping.

I didn't work in San Francisco, and I never wanted a long commute. I had friends that lived up there and enjoyed it.

However, I would never buy a place in a city, and I would never live in a city like that.

I would actually like to move to a much smaller place and have a large lot.

I like having neighbors, but not as close as they are right now. I like not having lots of traffic. My kids can play in the street, and I don't have to worry about them getting hit by cars. I also live near an undeveloped hill that has deer that are fun to watch. We also live near a bike/walking path that is connnected to lots of parks. It's loads of fun.

One of my 10 year old twin daughters loves San Francisco, and the other one would love to live in a small town where she can walk everywhere.


60 posted on 11/25/2006 10:55:43 AM PST by luckystarmom
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